The Temple and the Sacrifices.

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

How are they determining who can serve in this third temple?

Ezra 2:62-63 “62These men searched for their family records, but they could not find them and so were excluded from the priesthood as unclean.63The governor ordered them not to eat the most holy things until there was a priest to consult the Urim and Thummim”

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[Oseas]

Yes but I think you missed my point that the sun moon and stars in prophetic talk is Israel according to Jacob interpretation of the sun moon and 12 stars

I understood you, It's your thinking is missed, yu're mislead; First because in this point or in this occasion GOD had already changed the name of Jacob(the deceiver) to Israel; Second your interpretation is not true, it is not the same of Israel. No surprise, for Genesis 3:1 continues happening and still operating, twisting Scriptures. Israel said to Joseph: "Will we come I, your mother, and your brothers to prostrate ourselves to you to the ground?"

By analogy, Joseph is an image or figure of JESUS-the Messiah- to whom Israel should bow to the ground.
The difference is that when Joseph' brothers planed and tried to kill him, GOD permitted not they do that, otherwise Israel and family were going to starve to death; that said, how could the promise of GOD to Abraham be LITERALLY fulfilled taking his descendants from Egypt to the promised land?

In the other hand, regardings to JESUS-the Messiah-, GOD the Father permitted the sons /children of Israel to kill JESUS, the Messiah, as prophesied by Isaiah: He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he would not open his mouth; like a lamb to the slaughter he would be brought, and like a ewe that is mute before her shearers, and he would not open his mouth.

Your thinking is by the letter of Scriptures, the letter kills, your thinking is from a human perspective, a stumblingblock, not from GOD's perspective-Genesis 3:1 combined with Matthew 16:22-23

 

[dfw69]

I understood you, It's your thinking is missed, yu're mislead;

No you did not understand because if you did you would not keep arguing against me

First because in this point or in this occasion GOD had already changed the name of Jacob(the deceiver) to Israel;

A foreshadow for what God plans to do again …

Second your interpretation is not true, it is not the same of Israel.

yes it is …revelation disagrees with you

No surprise, for Genesis 3:1 continues happening and still operating, twisting Scriptures. Israel said to Joseph: "Will we come I, your mother, and your brothers to prostrate ourselves to you to the ground?"

Smh that’s what I meant …Israel interpreted the dream for you ..so you should not say it’s the church which is neither Jew nor gentile … Israel testified against you and says to you that the sun moon and stars represent His family …

By analogy, Joseph is an image or figure of JESUS-the Messiah- to whom Israel should bow to the ground.
The difference is that when Joseph' brothers planed and tried to kill him, GOD permitted not they do that, otherwise Israel and family were going to starve to death; that said, how could the promise of GOD to Abraham be LITERALLY fulfilled taking his descendants from Egypt to the promised land?

Yes and by your own words you agreed that Israel will bow down to Jesus to worship him as their King and Savior

In the other hand, regardings to JESUS-the Messiah-,

GOD the Father permitted the sons /children of Israel to kill JESUS, the Messiah, as prophesied by Isaiah: He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he would not open his mouth; like a lamb to the slaughter he would be brought, and like a ewe that is mute before her shearers, and he would not open his mouth.

Yes and upon is cross was an inscription for all the Jews to see … Yasha or Yahavah The King of the Jews … that would have been offensive …Yet it testified to them that He is their King

And we know He arose after 3 days and is alive and is glorified and is returning to them to establish the messianic age and millennium

Your thinking is by the letter of Scriptures, the letter kills, your thinking is from a human perspective, a stumblingblock, not from GOD's perspective-Genesis 3:1 combined with Matthew 16:22-23

The letter kills means people who live by the law use the law to kill unjustly as they unjustly killed their own King in whom they professed to love so much unknowingly … Killing Gods Son who was created in His own image was as killing God Himself in whom they profess to love

They knew not what they did … They judged and killed their God unjustly. In killing Gods Som they killed their own King .

And as you said they killed Joseph their brother and mocked saying let us now see what will become of His dreams …

God and His Son were one in purpose that is why Jesus said seeing me was like seeing the Father as if the father was with Israel .

And Israel is going to be given a second chance to receive their King that is why Jesus has warns them when and how He will appear to them …The signs are given to Israel for her next visitation


Oseas in Rev the sun moon and 12 stars represent Israel who will give birth to a manchild before her birth pains (tribulation) The manchild is the 144000 of the tribes of Israel (not the church) it clearly says so

Isaiah 66:6-8

 

[ralliann]

Hi Douggg,

I don`t think so as the animal sacrifices were done outside the holy place.

That is a good point about the A/C getting the A/D televised.

But their blood was brought into the temple.

 

[Douggg]

Oseas in Rev the sun moon and 12 stars represent Israel who will give birth to a manchild before her birth pains (tribulation) The manchild is the 144000 of the tribes of Israel (not the church) it clearly says so

The man-child caught up to God and His Throne is Jesus. The woman in Revelation 12 is Israel.

144,000 of the tribes of Israel (the woman) are among the Jews who will turn to Jesus after their perceived messiah - the Antichrist - betrays them. They receive the gospel of salvation in Revelation 12:10.

Revelation 12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

 

[Oseas]

No you did not understand because if you did you would not keep arguing against me

But I kept arguing against what you wrote, because you do a false interpretation of the Word of GOD, what you say is not true. The Word is GOD, GOD is Truth, understand?

A foreshadow for what God plans to do again …
yes it is …revelation disagrees with you

Revelation doesn't desagrees with me, absolutely, but with you, the woman is not Israel, neither the MAN child is JESUS as many preach, both interpretations are false therefore demonic.

Smh that’s what I meant …Israel interpreted the dream for you ..so you should not say it’s the church which is neither Jew nor gentile … Israel testified against you and says to you that the sun moon and stars represent His family …

You are confessing to be a mere reader of the Scripture and interpret it by the dead letter, you still remain in the death. Who interprets the Word of GOD with Truth is the Holy Spirit, not the spirit of Jacob/Israel. The Word is GOD- your thinking is from a human perspective, a stumblingblock, not from GOD's perspective.

Yes and by your own words you agreed that Israel will bow down to Jesus to worship him as their King and Savior

At no time did I agree or agree with your spirit and his point of view about Israel, for he doesn't speak Truth.
Now, JESUS came unto His own, and His own received Him not, they received Barabbas, a figure of the Devil, by the way, even until this current time they reject JESUS because remain dominated/ ruled / guided by the spirit of Antichrist since the beginining of the Church, the body of Christ. And only a remnant of Israel will be saved in this Day, the LORD's Day, the seventh and last Day, or seventh and last millennium..

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Yes and upon is cross was an inscription for all the Jews to see … Yasha or Yahavah The King of the Jews … that would have been offensive …Yet it testified to them that He is their King

Pilatos asked to the Jews: I should release unto you one at the passover: Will you therefore that I release unto you the King of the Jews? The Jews cried they all again, saying, Not JESUS, but Barabbas. Now, Barabbas was a robber. BARABBAS is who really is the King of the Jews by choice. Now the Day of GOD's Vengeance arrived. Yasha or Yahavah sound like the name of the father of the Jews: John 8:44-45 and 43.

And we know He arose after 3 days and is alive and is glorified and is returning to them to establish the messianic age and millennium

But from Israel only and only those which are sealed will be with JESUS on the mount Sion, having His Father's name written in their foreheads. The others will be cast into the lake of fire, as my Lord JESUS said: Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! You are the children of them which killed the prophets, and fill you up then the measure of your fathers.

For this cause GOD, even GOD, shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie, as JESUS prophesied-John 5:43-47-: That they all might be DAMNED who believed not the Truth-believed not in JESUS-, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

You serpents, you generation of vipers, how can you escape the damnation of hell?

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[Oseas]

The letter kills means people who live by the law use the law to kill unjustly as they unjustly killed their own King in whom they professed to love so much unknowingly … Killing Gods Son who was created in His own image was as killing God Himself in whom they profess to love

They knew not what they did … They judged and killed their God unjustly. In killing Gods Som they killed their own King .

And as you said they killed Joseph their brother and mocked saying let us now see what will become of His dreams …

God and His Son were one in purpose that is why Jesus said seeing me was like seeing the Father as if the father was with Israel .

What matters and prevails now is the righteous Judgment of GOD, the Judgment Seat of Christ, understand? And the sentence against Israel(except the sealed 144K true Israelites) was given by written: Upon Israel will come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom was slew between the temple and the altar. GOD's command has been given: Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe, and gather the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of GOD.

And Israel is going to be given a second chance to receive their King that is why Jesus has warns them when and how He will appear to them …The signs are given to Israel for her next visitation

There will not be any second chance, you are inventing that interpretation and it will never happen, it is a ficticious preaching. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Oseas in Rev the sun moon and 12 stars represent Israel who will give birth to a manchild before her birth pains (tribulation) The manchild is the 144000 of the tribes of Israel (not the church) it clearly says so
Isaiah 66:6-8

Your interpretation is not true, sun moon and 12 stars don't represent Israel by no manner of means, and the Man child is not JESUS.
Daniel prophesied about the man child: Daniel 12:1-3. Paul Apostle also wrote about the man child:1 Thessalonians 4:16; And JESUS in Revelation 12.

 

[dfw69]

The man-child caught up to God and His Throne is Jesus.

That is not correct Douggg ..Jesus died and arose …He was not caught up …

And satan has no power to stand and seek to devour the Lord… that’s impossible ….so satan will seek to devour the 144000 in the future but will fail …

the manchild will be caught up without dying and it is evident because they are seen in heaven

The woman in Revelation 12 is Israel.

Correct… so if the woman is Israel (a multitude) then her man child is also a multitude and a part of Israel …144000 to be exact

144,000 of the tribes of Israel (the woman) are among the Jews who will turn to Jesus after their perceived messiah - the Antichrist - betrays them. They receive the gospel of salvation in Revelation 12:10.

It does not mention how they convert or what causes their conversion but these are clues … rev 14:1-5

They have His name and His Fathers name on their foreheads
They sing a new song before Gods throne
They have been redeemed from the earth
They did not defile themselves with woman
They remained virgins
They follow the Lamb wherever He goes
They were bought from among mankind
They are offered to God and the Lamb as firstfruits (of Israel)
No lie was spoken from their mouth
They are blameless

Revelation 12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

Seems to me Rev 12 teaches that satan endeavor, before he is to be cast down to earth, is to devour the manchild … This is his attempt to destroy those who will rule with Christ over Israel. For this attempt he is cast to earth at the 7th trumpet

The victory over the war between Michael and Satan is announced in rev 12:10

The 144000 are to be saved from destruction like Noah and His family were saved from destruction

The 144000 are to be saved from Satan who will stand up against them because he desires to devour them …. Even now there are evil doctrines that say Israel will not be saved nor redeemed and they say they are cursed and will not be grafted back in … but that simply is not true

 

[dfw69]

What matters and prevails now is the righteous Judgment of GOD, the Judgment Seat of Christ, understand? And the sentence against Israel(except the sealed 144K true Israelites) was given by written: Upon Israel will come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom was slew between the temple and the altar. GOD's command has been given: Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe, and gather the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of GOD.

There will not be any second chance, you are inventing that interpretation and it will never happen, it is a ficticious preaching. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Your interpretation is not true, sun moon and 12 stars don't represent Israel by no manner of means, and the Man child is not JESUS.
Daniel prophesied about the man child: Daniel 12:1-3. Paul Apostle also wrote about the man child:1 Thessalonians 4:16; And JESUS in Revelation 12.

Oseas you seem to have all the answers to all the questions figured out .. so I part with you in peace.. will see if you are correct… but I will agree to disagree with you …peace

 

[Oseas]

The man-child caught up to God and His Throne is Jesus. The woman in Revelation 12 is Israel.

144,000 of the tribes of Israel (the woman) are among the Jews who will turn to Jesus after their perceived messiah - the Antichrist - betrays them. They receive the gospel of salvation in Revelation 12:10.

Revelation 12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

Israel is not the woman who gives birth to the man child before the dragon-the old Serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceives the whole world(ALL HERE CAN SEE HOW THE DRAGON DECEIVES THE WHOLE WORLD, EVEN A LOT OF CHRISTIANS/BELIEVERS),
who stood before the woman to devour her child as soon as it was born.

Around 2.000 years ago, when JESUS was born, the Dragon had not his seven heads, ten horns, and a TAIL, and seven crowns upon his heads, AS HE HAS NOW, in the current time. Now their satanic body is totally complete.

And the battle is against three unclean SPIRITS like frogs. Why frogs?

13 And I saw three unclean SPIRITS like frogs come out of the MOUTH of the dragon, and out of the MOUTH of the Beast, and out of the MOUTH mouth of the false prophet.

14 For they are the SPIRITS of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that (NOW THIS, NOT THAT) great Day of GOD Almighty. (the LORD's Day)

15 Behold, I come as a thief. Yes, behold)
Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame. (Yes, just as it happened to Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden in the turn of a GOD's Day, or millennium - Genesis 3:8-10. Take a look.

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[claninja]

The first criterion any high priest (Kohen Gadol) must meet is that he must be of priestly descent (a direct male descendant of Aaron). Some say the future King, Sanhedrin or the Moshiakh will install him. Priests will likely be determined by tribal levitical descent and possession of Cohen modal haplotype DNA. A school to prepare Temple priests (Nezer HaKodesh) to serve in the future Temple is open as we speak...

Yea, I read several studies on the kohen haplotype, and it has many limitations. The major one being no generic test can tell if you are of the line of Aaron. So, not sure how that’s gonna work…..

 

[ralliann]

Yea, I read several studies on the kohen haplotype, and it has many limitations. The major one being no generic test can tell if you are of the line of Aaron. So, not sure how that’s gonna work…..

I think they can tell a Levite, but not the sons of Aaron. But how can they tell if their mother is a Levite?

 

[Douggg]

That is not correct Douggg ..Jesus died and arose …He was not caught up …

Acts 1:9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.

11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.

The man-child is Jesus.

 

[Douggg]

Around 2.000 years ago, when JESUS was born, the Dragon had not his seven heads, ten horns, and a TAIL, and seven crowns upon his heads, AS HE HAS NOW, in the current time. Now their satanic body is totally complete.

Oseas, the first five verses of Revelation 12 of the vision John was shown, are a historical portrayal of Jesus being born to Israel, and Satan's attempt to have him killed as soon as he was born, by Herod's decree to kill all the infants under the age of two.

That the the seven heads have their crowns in Revelation 12 is because with 7 years (Revelation 12:6 +Revelation 12:14) left before Jesus returns, king 7 has come to power. Still future of us, but not in the distant future.

Having a tail is not relevant - as far as status of the great red dragon - that represents Satan - because we are not told of changes to the tail.

What is relevant is the changes of the crowns/no crowns on the heads and horns. We are told about those changes.
How to interpret what those mean, as far as what chapter is being read, is what we need to focus in on.

Revelation 17 - time stamped first century
Revelation 12 - time stamped with 7 years left before Jesus returns
Revelation 13 - time stamped with 42 months left before Jesus returns

 

[dfw69]

Acts 1:9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.

11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.

The man-child is Jesus.

This is not proof that Jesus is the man -child ….

Personally I believe as a resurrected man with a new godlike body, I’m pretty sure He did not need any assistance to ascend to the Father but ascended of His own power ….

The 2 angels testified saying Jesus was taken up will return in the same manor …so if He needed assistance to go to His Fathers house then should we assume He will need assistance to return to earth as the 2 Angels testified coming back in the same manor?

No Douggg Jesus ascended in power and returns in power as the angels testified

How else can He testify to His disciples that He will lead us to His Fathers house if He Himself has not the power to ascend of His own accord?


Douggg do you realized that your saying the manchild who you say is Jesus needed to be taken up from Satan as if He needed to be rescued ???

Then you might say that Jesus needed to be rescued from death …but then that goes against Jesus testimony who said I have the power to lay down my life and I have the power to raise it up again

John 10:18
No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father.”

Satan has no power over the Godhead

Satan will make a stand in the future to seek to devour the man-child but the man-child will be caught up to heaven before the travail of Israel takes place

Isaiah 66:1-8 7 “Before she goes into labor,
she gives birth;
before the pains come upon her,
she delivers a son.
8 Who has ever heard of such things?
Who has ever seen things like this?
Can a country be born in a day
or a nation be brought forth in a moment?
Yet no sooner is Zion in labor
than she gives birth to her children.
9 Do I bring to the moment of birth
and not give delivery?” says the Lord.
“Do I close up the womb
when I bring to delivery?” says your God.
10 “Rejoice with Jerusalem and be glad for her,
all you who love her;
rejoice greatly with her,
all you who mourn over her.
11 For you will nurse and be satisfied
at her comforting breasts;
you will drink deeply
and delight in her overflowing abundance.”

See Douggg this prophecy clearly speaks of Israel giving birth to the man child which are her children who are born in a day and it takes place before her tribulations

The sealing and saving of the 144000 will fulfill the prophecy that the nation of Israel will be born in one day ….

 

[Douggg]

Personally I believe as a resurrected man with a new godlike body, I’m pretty sure He did not need any assistance to ascend to the Father but ascended of His own power ….

It does not say either in Acts 1 or Revelation whether it was by His power as the Son or by the power of the Father that He was taken up. The fact is that Jesus was taken up - in the text of Acts 1 - caught up in Revelation 12.

Douggg do you realized that your saying the manchild who you say is Jesus needed to be taken up from Satan as if He needed to be rescued ???

No, it is not implying that at all in Revelation 12. The term man-child is applying to Jesus at the time of his birth. Satan through Herod tried to kill Jesus, by Herod's command that every infant under the age of two was to be killed.

Can a country be born in a day
or a nation be brought forth in a moment?
Yet no sooner is Zion in labor
than she gives birth to her children.

Israel a nation again in the land in May 14, 1948, prophecy fulfilled. Now, with that prophecy fulfilled, the next part - Zion in labor is soon to be fulfilled.

The labor, her pain, will be that of the beginning of the great tribulation - which in Revelation 12:10 are the children of Zion - Jews - turning to Jesus, the gospel of salvation and born again - in Revelation 12:10.

 

[dfw69]

It does not say either in Acts 1 or Revelation whether it was by His power as the Son or by the power of the Father that He was taken up. The fact is that Jesus was taken up - in the text of Acts 1 - caught up in Revelation 12.

I’m going to have to disagree with you here as I have explained in the previous post … As a resurrected Son of God He is able to ascend and descend again to lead the citizens by way of rapture to heaven when He comes for us ..

No, it is not implying that at all in Revelation 12.

yes it is douggg Rev 12 is not a history lesson from the birth of Christ

Actually the signs appear in heaven to give details of what is to take place before the 7th trumpet blows and before the casting of satan to earth as the 3rd woe , which reveals the time and season

You have a picture of Israel
About to travail (tribulation)
Gives birth to the 144000 (manchild)
A nation is born in one day (prophecy fulfilled by 144000)
Satan stands up before Israel to eat her child (144000)
144000 caught up to heaven
Israel flees for 1260 day in the wilderness prepared by God to be cared for from satan
War in heaven
satan is defeated and cast down to earth as the 3rd woe
Victory is proclaimed in heaven
Satan is angry because he knows His time is short
He sent a flood to stop the women from fleeing but an earthquake swallowed the flood
She is given 3 1/2 years safety
Satan is angry and goes to seek out the rest of Israel offspring who keep the commandments but testifing of Jesus


This is all future

The term man-child is applying to Jesus at the time of his birth. Satan through Herod tried to kill Jesus, by Herod's command that every infant under the age of two was to be killed.

Only he was not caught up to heaven His parents were warned and fled to Egypt … why is that not mentioned in the description that is so vividly revealing ???

Israel a nation again in the land in May 14, 1948, prophecy fulfilled. Now, with that prophecy fulfilled, the next part - Zion in labor is soon to be fulfilled.

Both thoughts are incorrect…the birth described Isaiah 66 and described in Revelation 12 is not a secular birth …
Which takes place during Daniel 70 week

If secular Israel goes into labor soon it is a planned deception it will not fulfill prophecy Dan 70 week comes after the false messianic age

The labor, her pain, will be that of the beginning of the great tribulation - which in Revelation 12:10 are the children of Zion - Jews - turning to Jesus, the gospel of salvation and born again - in Revelation 12:10.

Yes unfortunately that birth will not take place anytime soon

144000 will be the first fruits
Many flee to the wilderness for protection for 31/2 years the rest of her offspring who believe in Jesus will suffer persecution

 

[Oseas]

Oseas, the first five verses of Revelation 12 of the vision John was shown, are a historical portrayal of Jesus being born to Israel, and Satan's attempt to have him killed as soon as he was born, by Herod's decree to kill all the infants under the age of two.

What John wrote in Revelation has nothing to do with the time of Herod, neither with the birth of JESUS, you are twisting the Word of GOD as happened in Genesis 3:1. What John had seen when he wrote Revelation several decades after Herod and after the birth of JESUS, is written in the chapter 2 and 3 of Revelation, and John still was in the isle of Patmos. But the chapter 4 to 22 he wrote what he saw after be caught up to the third heaven-Rev.4:1- and the things that He saw there were/are the things JESUS has said in the first verse, which should show unto His servants, and should soon take place, and they have nothing to do with what you are testifying. Your testimony of the Word of GOD is not true, but according Genesis 3:1.

 

[Douggg]

Gives birth to the 144000 (manchild)

man-child is singular.

yes it is douggg Rev 12 is not a history lesson from the birth of Christ

The first five verses establish who the woman is in the rest of Revelation 12. Those five verses are historic, not future. The remainder of Revelation 12 is future.

Both thoughts are incorrect…the birth described Isaiah 66 and described in Revelation 12 is not a secular birth …
Which takes place during Daniel 70 week

If secular Israel goes into labor soon it is a planned deception it will not fulfill prophecy Dan 70 week comes after the false messianic age

"Secular" ? The verses are not saying secular or religious... but the nation of Israel.

The Jews in Revelation 12:10, do not become believers in Jesus until after the 1260 days in Revelation 12:6. There is no conflict with Daniel 9's 70th week.

Yes unfortunately that birth will not take place anytime soon

144000 will be the first fruits
Many flee to the wilderness for protection for 31/2 years the rest of her offspring who believe in Jesus will suffer persecution

Revelation 12:6-17 is not that far into the future.

The ones who flee into the wilderness when they see the abomination of desolation will escape the persecution of Satan in his wrath for the time/times/half time he will have left before being made a terror no more..

 

[Douggg]

But the chapter 4 to 22 he wrote what he saw after be caught up to the third heaven-Rev.4:1- and the things that He saw there were/are the things JESUS has said in the first verse, which should show unto His servants, and should soon take place, and they have nothing to do with what you are testifying.

I agree that the presentation, the great wonder, that John saw in Revelation 12 was while John was in the third heaven. But that does not alter the first five verse of Revelation 12 are historic about the birth of Jesus and Satan wanting to kill him as soon as he was born.

Your testimony of the Word of GOD is not true, but according Genesis 3:1.

Just stick to the content of Revelation, Oseas, and don't off on some accusatory personal rant.