Trump is asked, "how has your faith grown since you decided in 2015 to run for president?"

[durangodawood]

Because I cannot make you see anything even if I explain it. You have to find truth yourself. You may be highly discerning or not discerning at all. I don't know.

Basically in discussion you put out your explanations, and maybe they hit. Maybe they dont.

 

[durangodawood]

Just few of the con men who were/are loud and brash:
Mussolini
Creflo Dollar
Rev Jim Jones

The idea that loud and brash ought to inspire trust more than quiet and unassuming is pretty silly I think. I do think quiet cons better in intimate settings - small groups or one on one. But for mass markets, rally size crowds, politics, big-church, loud works better on average.

 

[SeventhFisherofMen]

Why wasn't he chosen by voters to be president rather than Trump? Are you saying he couldn't have been better used by Jesus as president rather than a low-level Trump placeholder? That's all he was to Trump. He was never given any really important jobs that I remember, those went to Jared.

I sense someone is just trying to argue so i'm just gonna leave it at that. Seems like a "well why didn't God do x y and z? If what you say is right what about this? What about this?"

Come on man i'm jot saying anything other than my opinion. Please don't ask me why certain things didn't happen as if I'm God. I'm not.

 

[childeye 2]

You certainly are entitled to your speculative interpretation. I see your comments as speculative, in reading in intent and motivation of Trump (which you cannot know) because of bias, but you can view it as you like.

It's not my opinion, nor is it speculative. Trump literally states his own belief that as President he made America great, "I am so happy I did it because I've made America great." It therefore follows in that same belief that when Trump says, "right now we are not a great country", he is referring to the Biden Presidency and the Democrats being in power.

And I note: Trump: You know, when I look at the Catholic faith, you take a look at what the FBI — no, but look at what the FBI is doing to Catholics. They've made them like the enemy. They've made them — it's, it's horrible. How could a Catholic ever vote for a Democrat or a guy like Biden again after the experience that they're going through?

Trump states his belief: “WE ARE MAGADONIANS, WE ARE VERY SMART, WE STICK TOGETHER AS ONE, WE FOLLOW TRUTH SOCIAL, WE PUT ‘AMERICA FIRST,’ AND WILL MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!'”

 

[RDKirk]

Just few of the con men who were/are loud and brash:
Mussolini
Creflo Dollar
Rev Jim Jones

The idea that loud and brash ought to inspire trust more than quiet and unassuming is pretty silly I think. I do think quiet cons better in intimate settings - small groups or one on one. But for mass markets, rally size crowds politics, big-church, loud works better on average.

The first rule of how to succeed as a populist.

 

[Say it aint so]

No, he doesn't use the best words. Heh.

I've considered it, but considering my professional and life experience, I find the con men to be more subtle, not the loud obnoxious and obvious mouthy types. We have some in office right now. But there is still a contingent screaming "But TRUMP!!!" as if he is their problem.

Really? So when Trump University is shut down for fraud, that has no bearing? So when the Trump foundation is shut down for fraud, that has no bearing? So when the Trump Org is found guilty of being a criminal org, that has no bearing? I suggest you take a look at his history, he has been a con man all his life.

 

[RDKirk]

Really? So when Trump University is shut down for fraud, that has no bearing? So when the Trump foundation is shut down for fraud, that has no bearing? So when the Trump Org is found guilty of being a criminal org, that has no bearing? I suggest you take a look at his history, he has been a con man all his life.

Numerous contractors who had worked for Trump's various enterprises over the years--who did the work and were left hanging for payment--were sounding that alarm before he was elected president.

 

[Say it aint so]

Numerous contractors who had worked for Trump's various enterprises over the years--who did the work and were left hanging for payment--were sounding that alarm before he was elected president.

Yes, rather than paying them for work completed, he would make them sue to get paid.

 

[durangodawood]

Numerous contractors who had worked for Trump's various enterprises over the years--who did the work and were left hanging for payment--were sounding that alarm before he was elected president.

People dont want to hear it. They will just say its all made up no matter what you show them. Same with Trump U and Trump Org malfeasance.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Trump states his belief: “WE ARE MAGADONIANS, WE ARE VERY SMART, WE STICK TOGETHER AS ONE, WE FOLLOW TRUTH SOCIAL, WE PUT ‘AMERICA FIRST,’ AND WILL MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!'”

Why does this statement remind me of this:

"We are Pakleds. Our ship is the Mondor. It is broken."
"We are smart. You think we're stupid, but we're smart."

 

[Pommer]

Trump states his belief: “WE ARE MAGADONIANS, WE ARE VERY SMART, WE STICK TOGETHER AS ONE, WE FOLLOW TRUTH SOCIAL, WE PUT ‘AMERICA FIRST,’ AND WILL MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!'”

Please for to tell me that this is an actual quote.

 

[childeye 2]

Please for to tell me that this is an actual quote.

Link

 

[childeye 2]

Why does this statement remind me of this:

"We are Pakleds. Our ship is the Mondor. It is broken."
"We are smart. You think we're stupid, but we're smart."

Hey, I remember that star trek episode.

"We look for things to make us go".

 

[USincognito]

Or Trump is just not articulating it well; he is not known as an eloquent speaker, by a long shot.

Hold on a second.

He claims he has the best words.
His ardent believers claim he speaks simply so he's easy to understand.
His ardent believers brag about how he can harangue for two hours without a Telepromter.

Now you're telling us he's not an eloquent speaker who express a simple concept like how his his faith has grown?

 

[durangodawood]

Hold on a second.

He claims he has the best words.
His ardent believers claim he speaks simply so he's easy to understand.
His ardent believers brag about how he can harangue for two hours without a Telepromter.

Now you're telling us he's not an eloquent speaker who express a simple concept like how his his faith has grown?

Trump knows he hasnt bothered to do the proper background work to fake faith, talk plausible faith-talk, etc. Changing the subject is the right move for him.

 

[Say it aint so]

People dont want to hear it. They will just say its all made up no matter what you show them. Same with Trump U and Trump Org malfeasance.

Yes, and his personal life, his lack of morals, is just as bad as his fraudulent business history.

 

[RestoreTheJoy]

Hold on a second.

He claims he has the best words.
His ardent believers claim he speaks simply so he's easy to understand.
His ardent believers brag about how he can harangue for two hours without a Telepromter.

Now you're telling us he's not an eloquent speaker who express a simple concept like how his his faith has grown?

I don't think it is controversial that he is not an eloquent speaker.

 

[RestoreTheJoy]

Yes, and his personal life, his lack of morals, is just as bad as his fraudulent business history.

Look who is in office now. And who was in before Trump. Really, you got no leg to stand on here.

 

[childeye 2]

Look who is in office now. And who was in before Trump. Really, you got no leg to stand on here.

Devil = accuser/slanderer. Can we at least try not to promote the spirit of the slanderer?

 

[Maria Billingsley]

"Great question, Such a great question."​

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"You know, I've seen so much heartache and turmoil," I was a developer, and I did other things. And, you know, I had a wonderful, I had a wonderful life before all this stuff."​

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"I didn't know what a grand jury was,. "I didn't know what a subpoena; what is a subpoena? I had a wonderful life."​

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"I'm so glad they asked me the other day a little different question," Are you glad you did it? So you had a great life. Are you glad you did it? I couldn't be more glad. I am so happy I did it because I've made America great. We can do it again."​

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"Right now, we don't; we are not a great country," We are not a great country."​

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"But I've gotten to know, because of this, evangelicals, I mean, I know so many people, and they feel so good about themselves and their family, and they base it on religion," he continued. "I had never had that kind of an experience where I got to know so many."​

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"And Franklin Graham and Paula White, I mean, I know so many people that are so incredible, religious people, and not just Christians, not just evangelicals," he insisted. "You know, when I look at the Catholic faith, you take a look at what the FBI, no, but look at what the FBI is doing to Catholics. They've made them like the enemy." MSNBC​

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I went to Jesuit University and I am not Christian, but most my family is and I talk to a lot of them. This would have been not a softball question to a practicing Christian, but a T-ball question. Trump blows it because he knows not one thing about nor practices the faith he claims to maintain. It is just a conduit to get where he was to go. It's worse than his "two Corinthians" answer.

Reminder of the question, " how has your faith grown....
I'm actually proud of him. He skirted the question because it is obvious that faith is really not in his wheelhouse. He spared us a lie. Good for him.