Will Bidens DOJ Charge And Prosecute Donald J. Trump With Insurrection For Jan 6th, In Final Attempts To Remove Him From His 2024 Presidential Bid?

[Truth7t7]

Trump on Trial: A Model Prosecution Memo for Federal Election Interference Crimes
July 13, 2023

This model prosecution memorandum (or “pros memo”) assesses federal charges Special Counsel Jack Smith may bring against former President Donald Trump for alleged criminal interference in the 2020 election. The authors have decades of experience as federal prosecutors, criminal defense lawyers, and other legal expertise. We conclude that the evidence likely now meets Department of Justice standards to commence a prosecution.

Do any actions disqualify a person from being president?

The 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution prohibits anyone who has engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the United States from holding public office. The clause was written in the aftermath of the U.S. Civil War and makes no mention of other crimes.

 

[SimplyMe]

Trump on Trial: A Model Prosecution Memo for Federal Election Interference Crimes
July 13, 2023

This model prosecution memorandum (or “pros memo”) assesses federal charges Special Counsel Jack Smith may bring against former President Donald Trump for alleged criminal interference in the 2020 election. The authors have decades of experience as federal prosecutors, criminal defense lawyers, and other legal expertise. We conclude that the evidence likely now meets Department of Justice standards to commence a prosecution.

Do any actions disqualify a person from being president?

The 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution prohibits anyone who has engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the United States from holding public office. The clause was written in the aftermath of the U.S. Civil War and makes no mention of other crimes.

No, they won't prevent him from running from President. Again, even if they charge him with this, and even if Trump is convicted, it does not prevent him from being on the Presidential ballot. Besides, didn't you tell me that he is only getting more popular as they charge him.

It is odd how Republicans think Democrats are so brilliant and so stupid at the same time. So brilliant as to hatch all these schemes and "manufacture" real evidence that Donald Trump broke the law, to the point that juries vote to indict and possibly convict him, but are so stupid they don't realize that these charges won't stop Trump from running or being elected, not to mention how he keeps getting more popular (at least per his supporters) everytime he is indicted. You'd think if Democrats were so smart, they'd realize this and come up with some other method that actually has a chance at keeping Trump from running for President and being elected.

 

[Truth7t7]

No, they won't prevent him from running from President. Again, even if they charge him with this, and even if Trump is convicted, it does not prevent him from being on the Presidential ballot.

If President Trump were convicted of insurrection for the Jan 6th event, he would be disqualified as being a presidential bid for 2024 if convicted before the Nov 2024 election

Do any actions disqualify a person from being president?

The 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution prohibits anyone who has engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the United States from holding public office. The clause was written in the aftermath of the U.S. Civil War and makes no mention of other crimes.

 

[SimplyMe]

Do any actions disqualify a person from being president?

The 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution prohibits anyone who has engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the United States from holding public office. The clause was written in the aftermath of the U.S. Civil War and makes no mention of other crimes.

Election interference (the crime listed in the OP) is not insurrection.

 

[A2SG]

Do any actions disqualify a person from being president?

The 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution prohibits anyone who has engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the United States from holding public office. The clause was written in the aftermath of the U.S. Civil War and makes no mention of other crimes.

Maybe so, but Trump has yet to be charged with this, let alone been convicted.

And besides, Congress can remove this restriction by a two-thirds vote in each house, so even that isn't insurmountable.

So, looks like this Bond-villain style plot isn't quite as brilliant as you seem to think the democrats, and Joe Biden, are.

-- A2SG, but it is nice to know how much credit you give the Democratic party......

 

[Truth7t7]

Election interference (the crime listed in the OP) is not insurrection.

The Topic Question:​

Will Bidens DOJ Charge And Prosecute Donald J. Trump With Insurrection For Jan 6th, In Final Attempts To Remove Him From His 2024 Presidential Bid?​

From The Article the word "Insurrection"

3.) When Pence refused, Trump went to his last resort: triggering an insurrection in the hope that it would throw Congress off course, delaying the transfer of power for the first time in American history. This implicated statutes such as 18 U.S.C. § 2383, which prohibits inciting an insurrection and giving aid or comfort to insurrectionists. (Section 2383 is rarely charged, and as we discuss below, this is a charge DOJ will use only with extreme caution. We believe there is sufficient evidence to pursue it—as did the Select Committee in making a criminal referral of Trump under that statute—but prosecutors may make different choices. Much will depend on the evidence the Special Counsel develops.)

 

[Truth7t7]

And besides, Congress can remove this restriction by a two-thirds vote in each house, so even that isn't insurmountable.

"False"

A constitutional amendment is not an easy task, requiring not only a two-thirds majority vote in both the House of Representatives and the Senate, but also ratification by three-fourths of the country’s state legislatures.

 

[A2SG]

The Topic Question:​

Will Bidens DOJ Charge And Prosecute Donald J. Trump With Insurrection For Jan 6th, In Final Attempts To Remove Him From His 2024 Presidential Bid?​

Still remains to be seen.

Given how long it usually takes for an indictment to occur, let alone a trial and conviction, it doesn't seem likely to happen before Nov. 2024, though.

Granted, this, along with the supposed "stolen" 2020 election, is all based on the idea that the Democratic Party is exceptionally organized and meticulously efficient as to carry off this brilliantly machiavellian plot without a trace of evidence to be found.

As a life-long democrat, and a resident of one of the most durably democratic states in the nation, I have only one response:

-- A2SG, we have been called The People's Republic of Massachusetts, after all.....

 

[A2SG]

"False"

A constitutional amendment is not an easy task, requiring not only a two-thirds majority vote in both the House of Representatives and the Senate, but also ratification by three-fourths of the country’s state legislatures.

Read the 14th Amendment:

Section 3.
No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.​

-- A2SG, got google, not afraid to use it.....

 

[Truth7t7]

Read the 14th Amendment:

Section 3.​

No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.​

-- A2SG, got google, not afraid to use it.....

My apology and enlightment, you appear to be 100% correct thanks!

It's presently "impossible" to achieve a 2/3 vote in either house and to remove the disability

100% "Impossible"

 

[A2SG]

My apology and enlightment, you appear to be 100% correct thanks!

It's presently "impossible" to achieve a 2/3 vote in either house and to remove the disability

100% "Impossible"

Then, I guess Trump better hope he isn't convicted of insurrection or treason.

That is, if he can somehow foil the machinations of the exceptionally organized and meticulously efficient Democratic Party and President Joe Biden.

-- A2SG, wonder if there's an abandoned lair inside an active volcano for the next Democratic National Convention......

 

[Truth7t7]

Then, I guess Trump better hope he isn't convicted of insurrection or treason.

No worry whatsoever, it's part of the democratic play write, get Trump at any cost, nothing new over the past 7 years, you think the world watching is oblivious to this fact, "Hardly"

Russia Hoax, Impeachment enactments twice, tax evasion, on and on tooooooo many to list

They have investigated Trump so much, they probably will charge him for talking back to his 1st grade teacher

 

[A2SG]

No worry whatsoever, it's part of the democratic play write, get Trump at any cost, nothing new over the past 7 years, you think the world watching is oblivious to this fact, "Hardly"

Russia Hoax, Impeachment enactments twice, tax evasion, on and on tooooooo many to list

They have investigated Trump so much, they probably will charge him for talking back to his 1st grade teacher

Yup, because the Democratic Part is exceptionally organized and meticulously efficient. And no one will ever see it coming, because they're incredibly stealthy and can cover their tracks with perfect precision.

-- A2SG, Blofeld for President, 2028......

 

[GreatLakes4Ever]

No worry whatsoever, it's part of the democratic play write, get Trump at any cost, nothing new over the past 7 years, you think the world watching is oblivious to this fact, "Hardly"

Russia Hoax, Impeachment enactments twice, tax evasion, on and on tooooooo many to list

They have investigated Trump so much, they probably will charge him for talking back to his 1st grade teacher

I have a question, why are the Democrats trying to remove Trump from running? All the polls I’ve seen show Biden beating Trump but losing or at best a coin-flip against DeSantis. From a political standpoint, it would be better to let Trump run because that is a much easier opponent for Biden in the election. So why are the Democrats trying to keep Trump from the ballot?

 

[Truth7t7]

I have a question, why are the Democrats trying to remove Trump from running? All the polls I’ve seen show Biden beating Trump but losing or at best a coin-flip against DeSantis. From a political standpoint, it would be better to let Trump run because that is a much easier opponent for Biden in the election. So why are the Democrats trying to keep Trump from the ballot?

 

[Maria Billingsley]

Trump on Trial: A Model Prosecution Memo for Federal Election Interference Crimes
July 13, 2023

This model prosecution memorandum (or “pros memo”) assesses federal charges Special Counsel Jack Smith may bring against former President Donald Trump for alleged criminal interference in the 2020 election. The authors have decades of experience as federal prosecutors, criminal defense lawyers, and other legal expertise. We conclude that the evidence likely now meets Department of Justice standards to commence a prosecution.

Do any actions disqualify a person from being president?

The 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution prohibits anyone who has engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the United States from holding public office. The clause was written in the aftermath of the U.S. Civil War and makes no mention of other crimes.

Setting aside the misleading title of the post, his egregious actions need to come with consequences. It is not remotely possible to claim election interference because it deals with a prior " post election coup" attempt.
Blessings

 

[GreatLakes4Ever]

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And……? 1 in 4 aren’t that long of odds to win. It’s two coin flips coming up heads. It’s a fairly common thing to happen. My question still stands. The odds of a Biden win are better against Trump than against DeSantis. So why are Democrats trying to eliminate the opponent they have better odds of beating.

 

[Fantine]

There is no Biden's DOJ. The whistle-blower who claimed there was is a Chinese spy on the run.
Merrick Garland has been exceptionally cautious and slow-moving. Jack Smith is moving things along.
Trump's first federal case is being held in a red, red county with a presiding judge who was reprimanded for being biased for him.
Surely a "Biden DOJ" could come up with a better scheme than that.
What we are seeing is a criminal being brought to justice.

 

[Truth7t7]

And……? 1 in 4 aren’t that long of odds to win. It’s two coin flips coming up heads. It’s a fairly common thing to happen. My question still stands. The odds of a Biden win are better against Trump than against DeSantis. So why are Democrats trying to eliminate the opponent they have better odds of beating.

Please refer to post #15 to evaluate your belief in pollsters "The Odds", thats the basis for your claims

 

[Truth7t7]

There is no Biden's DOJ.

Merrick Garland who is the big boss of the DOJ was hand picked by Joe Biden, if it's not Bidens DOJ, what should we call it?