Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the SABBATH

[tonychanyt]

In the Olivet discourse, Jesus said in Matthew 24:20 Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath.

Should we keep the Jewish Sabbath?

Not according to Matthew Poole:

The winter would naturally retard their motion, through the cold and moisture of it. The sabbath would be a moral hinderance, in regard of the superstitious opinion they had of the sabbath, that they might not upon that day defend themselves, nor flee from their enemies beyond the length of a sabbath day’s journey, which was but two miles: our Saviour hints to them that their flight must be farther. When our Saviour spake this the Jewish sabbath was the day of holy rest, and he knew that although by his resurrection he should sanctify a new sabbath, yet the Jews would not for a time understand that the old sabbath was abolished. Here is therefore no establishment of the old sabbath to be observed after his resurrection; the praying that their flight might not be upon the sabbath day respected only either their remora [i.e. delay] to their flight which the sabbath would give them, (in case they should keep it as a holy rest), or the addition of trouble it would make in their spirits, when they considered that was the day in which they were wont to go to the house of prayer, keeping it a day of holy rest unto God.​

Parallel account, Mark 13:18 Pray that this will not take place in winter.

Mark did not mention Sabbath.

Parallel account, Luke 21:36 Be always on the watch, and pray that you may be able to escape all that is about to happen, and that you may be able to stand before the Son of Man.

Luke did not mention winter or Sabbath.

The evidence to support keeping the Jewish Sabbath is not that strong.

 

[oikonomia]

In the Olivet discourse, Jesus said in Matthew 24:20 Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath.

Should we keep the Jewish Sabbath?

Not according to Matthew Poole:

The winter would naturally retard their motion, through the cold and moisture of it. The sabbath would be a moral hinderance, in regard of the superstitious opinion they had of the sabbath, that they might not upon that day defend themselves, nor flee from their enemies beyond the length of a sabbath day’s journey, which was but two miles: our Saviour hints to them that their flight must be farther. When our Saviour spake this the Jewish sabbath was the day of holy rest, and he knew that although by his resurrection he should sanctify a new sabbath, yet the Jews would not for a time understand that the old sabbath was abolished. Here is therefore no establishment of the old sabbath to be observed after his resurrection; the praying that their flight might not be upon the sabbath day respected only either their remora [i.e. delay] to their flight which the sabbath would give them, (in case they should keep it as a holy rest), or the addition of trouble it would make in their spirits, when they considered that was the day in which they were wont to go to the house of prayer, keeping it a day of holy rest unto God.​

Parallel account, Mark 13:18 Pray that this will not take place in winter.

Mark did not mention Sabbath.

Parallel account, Luke 21:36 Be always on the watch, and pray that you may be able to escape all that is about to happen, and that you may be able to stand before the Son of Man.

Luke did not mention winter or Sabbath.

The evidence to support keeping the Jewish Sabbath is not that strong.

Matthew 24,25 is all about the Lord Jesus speaking of the end times to His disciples.

He speaks to them according to what will be their two statuses.
He speaks to them according to their statues as being members of the Christian church.
He speaks to them according to their status as being typical Israelites related to the coming of the Jewish Messiah.

In His talk to about end times where He mentions the misfortune of certain happenings on the Sabbath, He is
addressing them in relation to their status as Israelites.

The dividing line in Matthew 24 where He changes His talking to them by these two statuses is in Matthew 24:32.
Try this:
From Matthew 24:1-31 His talk is to them is from the angle of their being members of the Church.
From Matthew 24: 32-44 His talk is from the angle of them being Israelites related to Isreal's national destiny.

 

[pasifika]

In the Olivet discourse, Jesus said in Matthew 24:20 Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath.

Should we keep the Jewish Sabbath?

Not according to Matthew Poole:

The winter would naturally retard their motion, through the cold and moisture of it. The sabbath would be a moral hinderance, in regard of the superstitious opinion they had of the sabbath, that they might not upon that day defend themselves, nor flee from their enemies beyond the length of a sabbath day’s journey, which was but two miles: our Saviour hints to them that their flight must be farther. When our Saviour spake this the Jewish sabbath was the day of holy rest, and he knew that although by his resurrection he should sanctify a new sabbath, yet the Jews would not for a time understand that the old sabbath was abolished. Here is therefore no establishment of the old sabbath to be observed after his resurrection; the praying that their flight might not be upon the sabbath day respected only either their remora [i.e. delay] to their flight which the sabbath would give them, (in case they should keep it as a holy rest), or the addition of trouble it would make in their spirits, when they considered that was the day in which they were wont to go to the house of prayer, keeping it a day of holy rest unto God.​

Parallel account, Mark 13:18 Pray that this will not take place in winter.

Mark did not mention Sabbath.

Parallel account, Luke 21:36 Be always on the watch, and pray that you may be able to escape all that is about to happen, and that you may be able to stand before the Son of Man.

Luke did not mention winter or Sabbath.

The evidence to support keeping the Jewish Sabbath is not that strong.

This is an end time prophecy. Notice Mathew 24 is about signs of the end times. The the abomination that causes the desolation of Jerusalem is also the desolation of this world. See Matt 24:29-

 

[SabbathBlessings]

In the Olivet discourse, Jesus said in Matthew 24:20 Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath.

Should we keep the Jewish Sabbath?

Not according to Matthew Poole:

The winter would naturally retard their motion, through the cold and moisture of it. The sabbath would be a moral hinderance, in regard of the superstitious opinion they had of the sabbath, that they might not upon that day defend themselves, nor flee from their enemies beyond the length of a sabbath day’s journey, which was but two miles: our Saviour hints to them that their flight must be farther. When our Saviour spake this the Jewish sabbath was the day of holy rest, and he knew that although by his resurrection he should sanctify a new sabbath, yet the Jews would not for a time understand that the old sabbath was abolished. Here is therefore no establishment of the old sabbath to be observed after his resurrection; the praying that their flight might not be upon the sabbath day respected only either their remora [i.e. delay] to their flight which the sabbath would give them, (in case they should keep it as a holy rest), or the addition of trouble it would make in their spirits, when they considered that was the day in which they were wont to go to the house of prayer, keeping it a day of holy rest unto God.​

Parallel account, Mark 13:18 Pray that this will not take place in winter.

Mark did not mention Sabbath.

Parallel account, Luke 21:36 Be always on the watch, and pray that you may be able to escape all that is about to happen, and that you may be able to stand before the Son of Man.

Luke did not mention winter or Sabbath.

The evidence to support keeping the Jewish Sabbath is not that strong.

Matthew 24 is a prophetic chapter and this verse makes your other thread that the Sabbath commandment ended at the cross in contradiction to one another.

Jesus in His own Words excepted His followers to be keeping the Sabbath decades after the cross, so the Sabbath commandment couldn’t be nailed to the cross if Jesus in His own Words expected His followers to be keeping it. This was a prediction about the destruction of the earthy temple, but there is another application for future but first we need to understand what the abomination of desolation means.

Here’s a few videos to help..

 

[Freth]

In the Olivet discourse, Jesus said in Matthew 24:20 Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath.

Should we keep the Jewish Sabbath?

Not according to Matthew Poole:

The winter would naturally retard their motion, through the cold and moisture of it. The sabbath would be a moral hinderance, in regard of the superstitious opinion they had of the sabbath, that they might not upon that day defend themselves, nor flee from their enemies beyond the length of a sabbath day’s journey, which was but two miles: our Saviour hints to them that their flight must be farther. When our Saviour spake this the Jewish sabbath was the day of holy rest, and he knew that although by his resurrection he should sanctify a new sabbath, yet the Jews would not for a time understand that the old sabbath was abolished. Here is therefore no establishment of the old sabbath to be observed after his resurrection; the praying that their flight might not be upon the sabbath day respected only either their remora [i.e. delay] to their flight which the sabbath would give them, (in case they should keep it as a holy rest), or the addition of trouble it would make in their spirits, when they considered that was the day in which they were wont to go to the house of prayer, keeping it a day of holy rest unto God.​

Parallel account, Mark 13:18 Pray that this will not take place in winter.

Mark did not mention Sabbath.

Parallel account, Luke 21:36 Be always on the watch, and pray that you may be able to escape all that is about to happen, and that you may be able to stand before the Son of Man.

Luke did not mention winter or Sabbath.

The evidence to support keeping the Jewish Sabbath is not that strong.

Is the Sabbath merely a Jewish Sabbath? Let's take a look.

The Sons of God and the Daughters of Men

The sons of God were righteous men while the daughters of men were wicked. The sons of God began intermingled with the daughters of men (Genesis 6:1-6). There is a distinction made between the two groups that shows that the sons of God (note: before there were Jews) had to have been keeping the commandments of God instituted at creation, which includes the Sabbath. How do we know for sure? Let's look at examples.

Noah

The account of the type of person Noah was.

Genesis 6:9 These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.

Jesus calling us to be perfect.

Matthew 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

Strong's: τέλειος téleios, tel'-i-os; from G5056; complete (in various applications of labor, growth, mental and moral character, etc.)

Abraham

Genesis 26:4-5 And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.

The above statement leaves no doubt that Abraham kept the commandments of God, and that His laws were known before Mt. Sinai. If Abraham knew, the sons of God knew, Noah knew (he was perfect), which shows that God's laws and commandments were known from creation, before they were spoken by God and written on stone.

John 8 records something interesting that Jesus said about Abraham and commandment keeping.

John 8:37-40 I know that ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you. I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father. They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham. But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.

John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

• Thou shalt not kill (murder)—one of the Ten Commandments. They wanted to murder Jesus.
• My word, the works of Abraham; Genesis 26:4-5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.

Jesus pointed directly to the Ten Commandments in association with the "works of Abraham". If Abraham knew and kept the Ten Commandments, then Abraham kept the Sabbath commandment passed down from creation. It doesn't say some commandments, some statutes, and some laws. It says my charge, my commandments, my statues and my laws—all of them.

Before the Jews

The Sabbath commandment explains itself. Why was it commanded?

Exodus 20:11 For [why? because] in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

The Sabbath commandment points right back to creation as the reason for its very existence.

Mark 2:27-28 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath: Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.

Jesus said the Sabbath was made for man (pointing back to creation). Therefore, Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath, because He instituted it at creation. He is the Creator, He was there (Colossians 1:16-20, John 1:10-11).

If He instituted the Sabbath commandment at creation, the other nine commandments had to have been known, because Abraham kept God's charge, commandments, statutes and laws.

This brings new scope to a statement Jesus made in John 14.

John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

The law of love upon which is hung all the law and the prophets (Matthew 22:36-40).

Jesus being Lord of the Sabbath also brings new emphasis to a statement He made in Matthew 15.

Matthew 15:3-4 But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition? For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.

Jesus quotes one of the Ten Commandments—Honor your mother and father—showing that the commandment of God was negated by tradition.

A Perpetual Covenant, A Sign

Exodus 31:13-16 describes the Sabbath as a sign, and a perpetual covenant for Israel.

Exodus 31:13-16 Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the Lord that doth sanctify you. Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people. Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the Lord: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death. Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant.

Israel includes the Gentiles.

• Romans 11:11-36 (too long to quote here) describes the grafting in of Gentiles into Israel.
• Galatians 3:28 and Colossians 3:11 tell us that there is neither Jew nor Greek, but that all are one in Jesus Christ.

How then can any commandment of God only be for the Jews, when the commandments are recorded in scripture as being obeyed long before and long after? One would have to ignore a lot of scripture to come to that conclusion.

The Three Angels' Messages and Matthew 24:20

Revelation 14:6-7 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.

• The everlasting gospel being preached to all.
• The call to fear God and give glory to Him.
• The hour of His judgment is come (note: present tense).
• Worship Him that made heaven, earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.

The first angel points back to creation with a call to worship. True worship.

The second angel declares that, "Babylon is fallen because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication." Fornication in the spiritual sense is the worship of idols. False worship.

The third angel's states in no uncertain terms that, "If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, the same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name."

The third angel's message ends with this powerful statement.

Revelation 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

How does this tie into Matthew 24:20 concerning the Sabbath? Let's look at both verse 20 and 21.

Matthew 24:20-21 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

Jesus, Lord of the Sabbath, makes it a point to mention one commandment of the Ten. The Sabbath commandment. He solidifies the Sabbath being observed at the time of the great tribulation. He doesn't say, "Oh well that's old hat, that's for the Jews!" He doesn't dismiss it as a bygone commandment of the Jewish era. He mentions it specifically as being observed, and observed prayerfully, asking us to pray that our flight isn't on the Sabbath day, as it is a holy day of worship. The fact that He mentions it at all, being observed at a time long past His crucifixion shows significance—that it is a binding commandment of God.

In the Revelation of Jesus Christ (Revelation 14:12, above), Jesus Himself—from heaven this time—is defining the patience of the saints as keeping the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus. This immediately after the last call to worship, because judgment is at hand. In Revelation 1:1-2 it is made clear that it is God who gave Jesus His Revelation, which He then gave to John through an angel.

Conclusion

• Commandment keeping is recorded in scripture, going back to the earliest days of earth's history.
• Commandment keeping is recorded in scripture, going forward well beyond Mt. Sinai, well beyond the Jews, to the end of time (Matthew 24:20, Revelation 14:6-12, Revelation 12:17).
• Commandment keeping is recorded in scripture, going into perpetuity in the new heaven and new earth (Isaiah 66:23). Exodus 31:13-16 states that the Sabbath is a perpetual covenant.

If the Sabbath was made just for the Jews, it wouldn't have been instituted at creation for man, to be perpetually observed.

Exodus 20:8-11 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

• Remember.
• To Keep holy.
• Six days shall you labor, and do all your work: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord your God.
• Why? It was instituted, blessed and hallowed at creation by God.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Is the Sabbath merely a Jewish Sabbath? Let's take a look.

The Sons of God and the Daughters of Men

The sons of God were righteous men while the daughters of men were wicked. The sons of God began intermingled with the daughters of men (Genesis 6:1-6). There is a distinction made between the two groups that shows that the sons of God (note: before there were Jews) had to have been keeping the commandments of God instituted at creation, which includes the Sabbath. How do we know for sure? Let's look at examples.

Noah

The account of the type of person Noah was.



Jesus calling us to be perfect.



Strong's: τέλειος téleios, tel'-i-os; from G5056; complete (in various applications of labor, growth, mental and moral character, etc.)

Abraham



The above statement leaves no doubt that Abraham kept the commandments of God, and that His laws were known before Mt. Sinai. If Abraham knew, the sons of God knew, Noah knew (he was perfect), which shows that God's laws and commandments were known from creation, before they were spoken by God and written on stone.

John 8 records something interesting that Jesus said about Abraham and commandment keeping.

• Thou shalt not kill (murder)—one of the Ten Commandments. They wanted to murder Jesus.
• My word, the works of Abraham; Genesis 26:4-5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.

Jesus pointed directly to the Ten Commandments in association with the "works of Abraham". If Abraham knew and kept the Ten Commandments, then Abraham kept the Sabbath commandment passed down from creation. It doesn't say some commandments, some statutes, and some laws. It says my charge, my commandments, my statues and my laws—all of them.

Before the Jews

The Sabbath commandment explains itself. Why was it commanded?



The Sabbath commandment points right back to creation as the reason for its very existence.



Jesus said the Sabbath was made for man (pointing back to creation). Therefore, Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath, because He instituted it at creation. He is the Creator, He was there (Colossians 1:16-20, John 1:10-11).

If He instituted the Sabbath commandment at creation, the other nine commandments had to have been known, because Abraham kept God's charge, commandments, statutes and laws.

This brings new scope to a statement Jesus made in John 14.



The law of love upon which is hung all the law and the prophets (Matthew 22:36-40).

Jesus being Lord of the Sabbath also brings new emphasis to a statement He made in Matthew 15.



Jesus quotes one of the Ten Commandments—Honor your mother and father—showing that the commandment of God was negated by tradition.

A Perpetual Covenant, A Sign

Exodus 31:13-16 describes the Sabbath as a sign, and a perpetual covenant for Israel.



Israel includes the Gentiles.

• Romans 11:11-36 (too long to quote here) describes the grafting in of Gentiles into Israel.
• Galatians 3:28 and Colossians 3:11 tell us that there is neither Jew nor Greek, but that all are one in Jesus Christ.

How then can any commandment of God only be for the Jews, when the commandments are recorded in scripture as being obeyed long before and long after? One would have to ignore a lot of scripture to come to that conclusion.

The Three Angels' Messages and Matthew 24:20

• The everlasting gospel being preached to all.
• The call to fear God and give glory to Him.
• The hour of His judgment is come (note: present tense).
• Worship Him that made heaven, earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.

The first angel points back to creation with a call to worship. True worship.

The second angel declares that, "Babylon is fallen because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication." Fornication in the spiritual sense is the worship of idols. False worship.

The third angel's states in no uncertain terms that, "If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, the same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name."

The third angel's message ends with this powerful statement.



How does this tie into Matthew 24:20 concerning the Sabbath? Let's look at both verse 20 and 21.



Jesus, Lord of the Sabbath, makes it a point to mention one commandment of the Ten. The Sabbath commandment. He solidifies the Sabbath being observed at the time of the great tribulation. He doesn't say, "Oh well that's old hat, that's for the Jews!" He doesn't dismiss it as a bygone commandment of the Jewish era. He mentions it specifically as being observed, and observed prayerfully, asking us to pray that our flight isn't on the Sabbath day, as it is a holy day of worship. The fact that He mentions it at all, being observed at a time long past His crucifixion shows significance—that it is a binding commandment of God.

In the Revelation of Jesus Christ (Revelation 14:12, above), Jesus Himself—from heaven this time—is defining the patience of the saints as keeping the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus. This immediately after the last call to worship, because judgment is at hand. In Revelation 1:1-2 it is made clear that it is God who gave Jesus His Revelation, which He then gave to John through an angel.

Conclusion

• Commandment keeping is recorded in scripture, going back to the earliest days of earth's history.
• Commandment keeping is recorded in scripture, going forward well beyond Mt. Sinai, well beyond the Jews, to the end of time (Matthew 24:20, Revelation 14:6-12, Revelation 12:17).
• Commandment keeping is recorded in scripture, going into perpetuity in the new heaven and new earth (Isaiah 66:23). Exodus 31:13-16 states that the Sabbath is a perpetual covenant.

If the Sabbath was made just for the Jews, it wouldn't have been instituted at creation for man, to be perpetually observed.

• Remember.
• To Keep holy.
• Six days shall you labor, and do all your work: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord your God.
• Why? It was instituted, blessed and hallowed at creation by God.

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[tonychanyt]

Is the Sabbath merely a Jewish Sabbath? Let's take a look.

The Sons of God and the Daughters of Men

The sons of God were righteous men while the daughters of men were wicked. The sons of God began intermingled with the daughters of men (Genesis 6:1-6). There is a distinction made between the two groups that shows that the sons of God (note: before there were Jews) had to have been keeping the commandments of God instituted at creation, which includes the Sabbath. How do we know for sure? Let's look at examples.

Noah

The account of the type of person Noah was.



Jesus calling us to be perfect.



Strong's: τέλειος téleios, tel'-i-os; from G5056; complete (in various applications of labor, growth, mental and moral character, etc.)

Abraham



The above statement leaves no doubt that Abraham kept the commandments of God, and that His laws were known before Mt. Sinai. If Abraham knew, the sons of God knew, Noah knew (he was perfect), which shows that God's laws and commandments were known from creation, before they were spoken by God and written on stone.

John 8 records something interesting that Jesus said about Abraham and commandment keeping.

• Thou shalt not kill (murder)—one of the Ten Commandments. They wanted to murder Jesus.
• My word, the works of Abraham; Genesis 26:4-5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.

Jesus pointed directly to the Ten Commandments in association with the "works of Abraham". If Abraham knew and kept the Ten Commandments, then Abraham kept the Sabbath commandment passed down from creation. It doesn't say some commandments, some statutes, and some laws. It says my charge, my commandments, my statues and my laws—all of them.

Before the Jews

The Sabbath commandment explains itself. Why was it commanded?



The Sabbath commandment points right back to creation as the reason for its very existence.



Jesus said the Sabbath was made for man (pointing back to creation). Therefore, Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath, because He instituted it at creation. He is the Creator, He was there (Colossians 1:16-20, John 1:10-11).

If He instituted the Sabbath commandment at creation, the other nine commandments had to have been known, because Abraham kept God's charge, commandments, statutes and laws.

This brings new scope to a statement Jesus made in John 14.



The law of love upon which is hung all the law and the prophets (Matthew 22:36-40).

Jesus being Lord of the Sabbath also brings new emphasis to a statement He made in Matthew 15.



Jesus quotes one of the Ten Commandments—Honor your mother and father—showing that the commandment of God was negated by tradition.

A Perpetual Covenant, A Sign

Exodus 31:13-16 describes the Sabbath as a sign, and a perpetual covenant for Israel.



Israel includes the Gentiles.

• Romans 11:11-36 (too long to quote here) describes the grafting in of Gentiles into Israel.
• Galatians 3:28 and Colossians 3:11 tell us that there is neither Jew nor Greek, but that all are one in Jesus Christ.

How then can any commandment of God only be for the Jews, when the commandments are recorded in scripture as being obeyed long before and long after? One would have to ignore a lot of scripture to come to that conclusion.

The Three Angels' Messages and Matthew 24:20

• The everlasting gospel being preached to all.
• The call to fear God and give glory to Him.
• The hour of His judgment is come (note: present tense).
• Worship Him that made heaven, earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.

The first angel points back to creation with a call to worship. True worship.

The second angel declares that, "Babylon is fallen because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication." Fornication in the spiritual sense is the worship of idols. False worship.

The third angel's states in no uncertain terms that, "If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, the same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name."

The third angel's message ends with this powerful statement.



How does this tie into Matthew 24:20 concerning the Sabbath? Let's look at both verse 20 and 21.



Jesus, Lord of the Sabbath, makes it a point to mention one commandment of the Ten. The Sabbath commandment. He solidifies the Sabbath being observed at the time of the great tribulation. He doesn't say, "Oh well that's old hat, that's for the Jews!" He doesn't dismiss it as a bygone commandment of the Jewish era. He mentions it specifically as being observed, and observed prayerfully, asking us to pray that our flight isn't on the Sabbath day, as it is a holy day of worship. The fact that He mentions it at all, being observed at a time long past His crucifixion shows significance—that it is a binding commandment of God.

In the Revelation of Jesus Christ (Revelation 14:12, above), Jesus Himself—from heaven this time—is defining the patience of the saints as keeping the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus. This immediately after the last call to worship, because judgment is at hand. In Revelation 1:1-2 it is made clear that it is God who gave Jesus His Revelation, which He then gave to John through an angel.

Conclusion

• Commandment keeping is recorded in scripture, going back to the earliest days of earth's history.
• Commandment keeping is recorded in scripture, going forward well beyond Mt. Sinai, well beyond the Jews, to the end of time (Matthew 24:20, Revelation 14:6-12, Revelation 12:17).
• Commandment keeping is recorded in scripture, going into perpetuity in the new heaven and new earth (Isaiah 66:23). Exodus 31:13-16 states that the Sabbath is a perpetual covenant.

If the Sabbath was made just for the Jews, it wouldn't have been instituted at creation for man, to be perpetually observed.

• Remember.
• To Keep holy.
• Six days shall you labor, and do all your work: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord your God.
• Why? It was instituted, blessed and hallowed at creation by God.

Let proposition P1 = Every Christian today is required to keep the weekly Saturday Sabbaths.
P2 = Not every Christian today is required to keep the weekly Saturday Sabbaths.

Between 0 and 10, how much weight do you put on each of the above propositions?

 

[Freth]

Let proposition P1 = Every Christian today is required to keep the weekly Saturday Sabbaths.
P2 = Not every Christian today is required to keep the weekly Saturday Sabbaths.

Between 0 and 10, how much weight do you put on each of the above propositions?

I would not put weight in either proposition as they limit the scope of the Sabbath commandment to Christians only. According to Jesus in Mark 2:27, the Sabbath was made for man. Strong's G444 man (anthrōpos): a human being, whether male or female; generically, to include all human individuals.

Interesting Fact: The word "anthropology" comes from the Greek anthropos ("human") and logia ("study"). Anthropology is the study of people everywhere — today, yesterday, and long ago. Anthropologists study people from every angle. Anthropology is not the study of Christians specifically, but humans.

Consider:

P1 = Every person today is required to keep <insert one of the Ten Commandments>.
P2 = Not every person today is required to keep <insert the same commandment from P1>.

If I insert have no other gods, how many would say that we are no longer required to keep that commandment? What about no graven images? Taking the Lord's name in vain? Honoring your father and mother? Do not murder? Do not commit adultery? Do not steal? Do not bear false witness? Do not covet?

What answers would such a proposition show? That the commandments are still binding for man.

If Jesus said that the Sabbath was made for man, and that He is also Lord of the Sabbath, I am going to obey the Sabbath, and I believe it was His intention that all of humanity see the significance of such a statement. And then there is the commandment itself, which says to remember to keep it holy, as if we would someday forget. Hasn't that actually happened? Something to think about.

That's my answer. God bless!

 

[tonychanyt]

I would not put weight in either proposition as they limit the scope of the Sabbath commandment to Christians only.

Let proposition P1 = Every Christian today is required to keep the weekly Saturday Sabbaths.
P2 = Not every Christian today is required to keep the weekly Saturday Sabbaths.

Between 0 and 10, how much weight do you put on each of the above propositions?

These weights are supposed to reflect the strength of your beliefs. They do not limit the scope of the Sabbath commandment to Christians only. See Subjective (Bayesian) Probability

 

[Freth]

Let proposition P1 = Every Christian today is required to keep the weekly Saturday Sabbaths.
P2 = Not every Christian today is required to keep the weekly Saturday Sabbaths.

Between 0 and 10, how much weight do you put on each of the above propositions?

These weights are supposed to reflect the strength of your beliefs. They do not limit the scope of the Sabbath commandment to Christians only. See Subjective (Bayesian) Probability

Whatever scale value is fully pegged (maxed out), that every person today is required to keep the seventh-day (Saturday) Sabbath. Whether it be 10 for max or 0 for max supporting that position, that's my weight.

 

[tonychanyt]

Whatever scale value is fully pegged (maxed out), that every person today is required to keep the seventh-day (Saturday) Sabbath. Whether it be 10 for max or 0 for max supporting that position, that's my weight.

Are you willing to put money where your mouth is?

 

[Freth]

Are you willing to put money where your mouth is?

I posted at length concerning the subject of the Sabbath.

 

[tonychanyt]

I posted at length concerning the subject of the Sabbath.

You keep asserting your position with words. Are you willing to put money where your mouth is?

 

[Freth]

You keep asserting your position with words. Are you willing to put money where your mouth is?

If you mean observe it myself, I do. I observe the seventh-day Sabbath every week.

 

[tonychanyt]

If you mean observe it myself, I do. I observe the seventh-day Sabbath every week.

That's good. That is worth some weight. I am interested in finding out the strength of your belief mathematically. See Subjective (Bayesian) Probability.

 

[BobRyan]

In the Olivet discourse, Jesus said in Matthew 24:20 Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath.

Should we keep the Jewish Sabbath?

Jesus was a Jew, all of his hearers in Matt 24 were Jews. The understanding of the Jews before the cross was that the weekly Sabbath is on Saturday and that taking a vacation/flight on the Sabbath was an "issue".

So if "context" matters to your exegesis - it is predicting that in the future Trib - saints will pray not to have to take flight on the Sabbath. Certainly Christ was predicting an event future to the time of the cross.

Not according to Matthew Poole:

He may need to read a bit more scripture - in context in that case.

The winter would naturally retard their motion, through the cold and moisture of it. The sabbath would be a moral hinderance​

It is included in the moral law of God since it is in the TEN where Christ's listeners knew full well that God says in Deut 5:22 "God spokes these TEN commandments... and added NO more"

When our Saviour spake this the Jewish sabbath was the day of holy rest,​

Which is a problem in "exegesis" for anyone trying to bend that Matt 24 statement to something "else"

and he knew that although by his resurrection he should sanctify a new sabbath​

There is no "sanctify a new weekly Sabbath" in all of scripture. I think we all know that.

Parallel account, Mark 13:18 Pray that this will not take place in winter.​

Mark did not mention Sabbath.

Yet there is no text telling us to delete whatever statements of Christ you find in John if they are not in Mark, etc.

 

[BobRyan]

That's good. That is worth some weight. I am interested in finding out the strength of your belief mathematically. See Subjective (Bayesian) Probability.

The issue is scripture.

 

[tonychanyt]

Jesus was a Jew, all of his hearers in Matt 24 were Jews. The understanding of the Jews before the cross was that the weekly Sabbath is on Saturday and that taking a vacation/flight on the Sabbath was an "issue".

So if "context" matters to your exegesis - it is predicting that in the future Trib - saints will pray not to have to take flight on the Sabbath. Certainly Christ was predicting an event future to the time of the cross.

He may need to read a bit more scripture - in context in that case.

It is included in the moral law of God since it is in the TEN where Christ's listeners knew full well that God says in Deut 5:22 "God spokes these TEN commandments... and added NO more"


Which is a problem in "exegesis" for anyone trying to bend that Matt 24 statement to something "else"

There is no "sanctify a new weekly Sabbath" in all of scripture. I think we all know that.

Yet there is no text telling us to delete whatever statements of Christ you find in John if they are not in Mark, etc.

Sure. How strongly do you believe in your position?

Let proposition P1 = Every Christian today is required to keep the weekly Saturday Sabbaths.
P2 = Not every Christian today is required to keep the weekly Saturday Sabbaths.

Between 0 and 10, how much weight do you put on each of the above propositions?

 

[tonychanyt]

The issue is scripture.

Sure. How strongly do you believe in your scriptural position?

Let proposition P1 = Every Christian today is required to keep the weekly Saturday Sabbaths.
P2 = Not every Christian today is required to keep the weekly Saturday Sabbaths.

Between 0 and 10, how much weight do you put on each of the above propositions?

 

[DamianWarS]

This was a prediction about the destruction of the earthy temple

The roman siege of jerusalem lasted just over four months. April 14th - September 8th 70 AD. Nearing the end on August 30th the temple was set on fire, that day was on the Sabbath... but at least it wasn't during the winter. Obviously a good many Sabbaths passed during this seige and I'm sure there was more than one occasion where victims fled into the hills. It just happened to be on this Sabbath the temple was set on fire which I'm sure caused some to flee.