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Hi my name is Eddie and I married in the Catholic church. My siblings are all Christians and what I would appreciate is a Christian opinion on the Catholic church so I could somewhat understand my siblings opinions or thoughts because sooner or later we will discuss our differences and the last thing I want is for us to distance ourselves or avoid these discussions all together. This is not a debate please or any wrong or right answers as I am only in search of opinions. Thanks and have a blessed day.
 

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I know a lot of good, committed to Jesus Catholics . But most of them are just doing religion- following rules. Religion is doing works to try to get to God. But Jesus came to earth and did it all so we could have a relationship with Him. I appreciate their stand on abortion, but they are not the one true religion. They are still trying to be by starting the one world church.
The pope is not Christ on earth. Mary is not co-redeemer and on and on.

welcome to the forum!
 
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Hi my name is Eddie and I married in the Catholic church. My siblings are all Christians and what I would appreciate is a Christian opinion on the Catholic church so I could somewhat understand my siblings opinions or thoughts because sooner or later we will discuss our differences and the last thing I want is for us to distance ourselves or avoid these discussions all together. This is not a debate please or any wrong or right answers as I am only in search of opinions. Thanks and have a blessed day.

The Catholic Church is one of the oldest Christian Churches. It is in fact one of the Churches mentioned in the bible. The book of Romans was addressed to the Church in Rome. That being said, when you converse with your protestant relatives you are going to get a barrage of mostly fallacy. It will begin with "where in the bible does it say...". But then it doesn't say in the bible that everything has to be in the bible.

You need to hold on to your faith and don't be discouraged. When these things come up you can simply come back here and ask for advice.
 
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Hi my name is Eddie and I married in the Catholic church. My siblings are all Christians and what I would appreciate is a Christian opinion on the Catholic church so I could somewhat understand my siblings opinions or thoughts because sooner or later we will discuss our differences and the last thing I want is for us to distance ourselves or avoid these discussions all together. This is not a debate please or any wrong or right answers as I am only in search of opinions. Thanks and have a blessed day.
Hi Eddie! You might find your answers in the Catholic forum here: One Bread, One Body - Catholic

Welcome to CF. I hope you find it edifying. :)
 
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Hi my name is Eddie and I married in the Catholic church. My siblings are all Christians and what I would appreciate is a Christian opinion on the Catholic church so I could somewhat understand my siblings opinions or thoughts because sooner or later we will discuss our differences and the last thing I want is for us to distance ourselves or avoid these discussions all together. This is not a debate please or any wrong or right answers as I am only in search of opinions. Thanks and have a blessed day.
Hello and welcome to the forum.

I grew up as a Baptist, but I have since become Messianic. Jesus came as the Messiah of Judaism in fulfillment of Jewish prophecy and he spent his ministry teaching his followers how to practice Judaism by walking in obedience to the Torah. In Acts 21:20, they were rejoicing that tens of thousands of Jews were coming to faith who were all zealous for the Torah, which is the way to believe in what Jesus accomplished through the cross (Titus 2:14), so Jews coming to faith were not ceasing to obey it. This means that there was a period of time between the resurrection of Jesus and the inclusion of Gentiles in Acts 10 that is estimated to be around 7-15 years during which all Christians were Torah observant Jews, so Christianity at its origin was the form of Judaism that recognize Jesus as its prophesied Messiah, and this is the easiest Christian denomination that Catholics have split off from.

I believe that we can still learn much of value from someone that we strongly disagree with on other issues, so I think it good idea to try to treat everyone as if they have at least one thing to say that would be valuable to hear, which extends to other denominations. I'm not a Catholic and there are a number of areas where I disagree with Catholic doctrine, but I can still benefit from listening to a sermon given by a Catholic and vice versa. It is good see other denominations as iron sharpening iron, so yes they are standing against you on some issues, but if it is for the sake of heaven, then they are doing so in a manner that is for your own good, where you will benefit from digging into the issues, from understanding why people disagree with you, and from learning to better articulate what you believe and why. Never let denominational differences get in the way of love because that would be missing the whole point.
 
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It may've been helpful to research Catholocism vs Protestantism before marrying Catholic.....

We believe the church is an invisible body of believers. There are genuine believers in both the Catholic & Protestant faiths, & fake believers in both faiths too. Just because someone claims membership to a church, that doesn't mean anything for either side.

We believe the Bible was written in a way for lay people to understand, Catholics believe only they have the correct interpretation.

We believe a lot of Catholic doctrine was added far too late after the time of the Apostles to be valid doctrine. & the only way to confirm is if it goes back to the earliest writings (the Bible). This is Sola Scriptura. Not only do we not find later doctrine in the Bible, but find the later doctrine in disagreement with the Bible.

There are 4 other Solas. Sola Fide. Sola Gratia. Solus Christus. Soli Deo Gloria

By Scripture Alone. By Faith Alone. By Grace Alone. Thru Christ Alone. Glory to God Alone.

God forgives your sins & you're called to repent, you don't have to confess it to a priest to get it forgiven. You don't need the Eucharist to dispense grace like a vending machine. You don't earn salvation points from God doing the things the Catholic Church asks you do.

When I see a lot of Catholics, I see them just going thru the motions. Their heart isn't into it. It's empty ritutal & dead to them. No, we should be desiring Christ more & more! As God draws us to him, we want to be drawn to him. We act because he first loved us, not because he said you must do X in order for me to love you.
 
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I'm an Anglican. In my experience, the biggest difficulty between Catholics and pretty much everyone else is that Catholics see their church as infallible and everyone else as deficient or wrong where they differ. That's a difficult line to be on the receiving end of.

My advice would be, be humble, express appreciation of what is good in their traditions, and be open to listening to their points of view. That will help smooth their way at least in terms of relating to you personally.
 
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Hi my name is Eddie and I married in the Catholic church. My siblings are all Christians and what I would appreciate is a Christian opinion on the Catholic church so I could somewhat understand my siblings opinions or thoughts because sooner or later we will discuss our differences and the last thing I want is for us to distance ourselves or avoid these discussions all together. This is not a debate please or any wrong or right answers as I am only in search of opinions. Thanks and have a blessed day.
I agree with Mitchie. I am not Catholic, but there are alot of things Catholicsm holds that are misunderstood by other Christian denominations. I have some issues personally, Icon's and Mary. I see the issue as me being weak in conscience. But I must accept that to become Catholic. I wish that were not true, but it is. Catholicism as well as the Orthodox have great value, that I misunderstood. When I did understand them , Ilooked at things differently. It helped alot. There are so many ideas within Christianity outside of the historic Churches that you might get lost in it. I hope it all ends well for you, either way.
 
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I know a lot of good, committed to Jesus Catholics . But most of them are just doing religion- following rules. Religion is doing works to try to get to God. But Jesus came to earth and did it all so we could have a relationship with Him. I appreciate their stand on abortion, but they are not the one true religion. They are still trying to be by starting the one world church.
The pope is not Christ on earth. Mary is not co-redeemer and on and on.

welcome to the forum!
God has given instructions for how to have a relationship with Jesus that some see as following rules.
 
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so Christianity at its origin was the form of Judaism that recognize Jesus as its prophesied Messiah, and this is the easiest Christian denomination that Catholics have split off from.
Not sure what you mean here. You do know that the first 15 or so bishops that headed the Church at Jerusalem were Jews, beginning with James the Just? They are named on the Orthodox Patriarchate of Jerusalem's website. Gentile Greek Bishops were installed after 135AD and the Edict of Hadrian.
 
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Welcome to the forums, OP! I hope you'll find your time here edifying and interesting.

I'm an ex-Catholic, converted to Orthodoxy 11 years ago now (though last attended a Catholic mass 14 years ago). I am eternally grateful for my time spent in the Roman Catholic Church, as it was through her that I first gained an appreciation and some understanding of some of the fathers (e.g., my father of confession from that time is the one who introduced me to St. Ephrem the Syrian), and of course I have known many wonderful and faithful Catholic people. While I found over time that there were many fundamental issues with which I could not agree with the official line of the RCC (hence my eventual exit), I would never go out of my way to tarnish the Roman Catholic Church, as though its being wrong (from an Orthodox POV) is tantamount to it being evil, the 'lascivious woman' of Babylon (not sure if the filters here would allow the full phrase), or any of the other things that some people think it is. I've been in it, and was in it for quite some time, so I feel like I know pretty well that it's not all those things. There are deep, fundamental, systemic (however you want to put it) problems with some aspects of it, as I feel like many Catholics themselves can even admit without compromising their fidelity to it as a Church (e.g., in its handling of the sex abuse cases involving priests), so that in itself is not 'anti-Catholic', so much as 'pro-reality, even when it is other than how we want it to be.' All that said, I wouldn't think there's as much distance between your relatives as there might seem from any misgivings they may have about the RCC, assuming your relatives are all some type of (liturgically/spiritually) western Christian. Here it pays to remember or realize that for a very long time, the RCC was essentially the only game in town when it came to apostolic Christianity in the West (whereas there were several distinct strains of Christianity in the East, all of roughly equal apostolic vintage: the overarching Greek-Byzantine imperial Church, the bewildering array of ancient Christianities in India, the indigenous Copts in Egypt, the Apostolic Church of the Armenians, etc.). So even if some don't like to admit it, or maybe just aren't aware, most forms of Protestantism are at least at their base shaped pretty much inescapably by their historical and present relation to the 2,000 lb elephant-in-the-room of Western Roman Christianity, which is most directly represented today by the Roman Catholic Church. There are, of course, variations within even that (e.g., the Mozarabic rite in Spain, or the Bragan in Portugal), but even these follow a familiar basic pattern in a way that is not quite mirrored in the rest of the Christian world. (Indeed, all liturgies share many basics, but there is greater variation between, say, the liturgies of the Copts and those of the Armenians than there is between any two forms of traditional, liturgical Christianity originating in the West).
 
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To be fair, a vast majority of Catholics do not know what the Church actually teaches, let alone non-Catholics. Most of them is based on misunderstanding of the theology.
 
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I know a lot of good, committed to Jesus Catholics . But most of them are just doing religion- following rules. Religion is doing works to try to get to God. But Jesus came to earth and did it all so we could have a relationship with Him. I appreciate their stand on abortion, but they are not the one true religion. They are still trying to be by starting the one world church.
The pope is not Christ on earth. Mary is not co-redeemer and on and on.

welcome to the forum!
Thank you very much for your reply. I appreciate it. Take care!
 
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Welcome to the forums, OP! I hope you'll find your time here edifying and interesting.

I'm an ex-Catholic, converted to Orthodoxy 11 years ago now (though last attended a Catholic mass 14 years ago). I am eternally grateful for my time spent in the Roman Catholic Church, as it was through her that I first gained an appreciation and some understanding of some of the fathers (e.g., my father of confession from that time is the one who introduced me to St. Ephrem the Syrian), and of course I have known many wonderful and faithful Catholic people. While I found over time that there were many fundamental issues with which I could not agree with the official line of the RCC (hence my eventual exit), I would never go out of my way to tarnish the Roman Catholic Church, as though its being wrong (from an Orthodox POV) is tantamount to it being evil, the 'lascivious woman' of Babylon (not sure if the filters here would allow the full phrase), or any of the other things that some people think it is. I've been in it, and was in it for quite some time, so I feel like I know pretty well that it's not all those things. There are deep, fundamental, systemic (however you want to put it) problems with some aspects of it, as I feel like many Catholics themselves can even admit without compromising their fidelity to it as a Church (e.g., in its handling of the sex abuse cases involving priests), so that in itself is not 'anti-Catholic', so much as 'pro-reality, even when it is other than how we want it to be.' All that said, I wouldn't think there's as much distance between your relatives as there might seem from any misgivings they may have about the RCC, assuming your relatives are all some type of (liturgically/spiritually) western Christian. Here it pays to remember or realize that for a very long time, the RCC was essentially the only game in town when it came to apostolic Christianity in the West (whereas there were several distinct strains of Christianity in the East, all of roughly equal apostolic vintage: the overarching Greek-Byzantine imperial Church, the bewildering array of ancient Christianities in India, the indigenous Copts in Egypt, the Apostolic Church of the Armenians, etc.). So even if some don't like to admit it, or maybe just aren't aware, most forms of Protestantism are at least at their base shaped pretty much inescapably by their historical and present relation to the 2,000 lb elephant-in-the-room of Western Roman Christianity, which is most directly represented today by the Roman Catholic Church. There are, of course, variations within even that (e.g., the Mozarabic rite in Spain, or the Bragan in Portugal), but even these follow a familiar basic pattern in a way that is not quite mirrored in the rest of the Christian world. (Indeed, all liturgies share many basics, but there is greater variation between, say, the liturgies of the Copts and those of the Armenians than there is between any two forms of traditional, liturgical Christianity originating in the West).
Thank you for your reply and an interesting read regarding your history with the RCC. Blessings my brother.
 
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I know a lot of good, committed to Jesus Catholics . But most of them are just doing religion- following rules. Religion is doing works to try to get to God. But Jesus came to earth and did it all so we could have a relationship with Him. I appreciate their stand on abortion, but they are not the one true religion. They are still trying to be by starting the one world church.
The pope is not Christ on earth. Mary is not co-redeemer and on and on.

welcome to the forum!
It is the Catholic way to establish a personal relationship with Jesus. You can't get closer to Jesus than to receive Him in the Holy Eucharist. No, Catholics do not believe the pope is Christ on earth, who in the world told you that? A pope has a role, and important role, but is a position which does not make a pope better or worse than other Catholics. Popes can go to Heaven or hell.
 
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I'm a faithful Catholic and believe it's the original Church founded by Christ.

Welcome to CF! :)
Hello Riley, if you have time, could you please tell me some good defending points for the Catholic faith? I know an individual who believes that the Bible is enough and that Churches (physical buildings) are not necessary. This person also told me that the blessing, and consumption of the Eucharist during mass is an act of sorcery. This non-denominational Christian mentioned to me that it is the Bible that we should "eat," and not the Eucharist. Furthermore, this individual told me that a Catholic baptism is not proper and that a true baptism is if one gets ducked in the water, and becomes "born again." This individual is constantly trying to convert me.
 
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Hello Riley, if you have time, could you please tell me some good defending points for the Catholic faith? I know an individual who believes that the Bible is enough and that Churches (physical buildings) are not necessary. This person also told me that the blessing, and consumption of the Eucharist during mass is an act of sorcery. This non-denominational Christian mentioned to me that it is the Bible that we should "eat," and not the Eucharist. Furthermore, this individual told me that a Catholic baptism is not proper and that a true baptism is if one gets ducked in the water, and becomes "born again." This individual is constantly trying to convert me.
Sorcery? God is not a magician. I recommend reading and studying John 6, specifically the Holy Eucharist discourse. If you look at the Greek when challenged Jesus get more emphatic, the word he changes to means to "chew" or "masticate" but is also translated as the English "eat."We are indeed born again through the Sacrament of Baptism. Water is the sign of what happens in the sacrament. Read the Didache, which describes various uses of water for the Sacrament of Baptism in the first century. The Catholic Church decides what is a valid Baptism. A lot of the these people are Bible-only, if one were Bible only one could conclude baptism in the Americas are not valid because the Bible details no such events.
 
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Hello Riley, if you have time, could you please tell me some good defending points for the Catholic faith? I know an individual who believes that the Bible is enough and that Churches (physical buildings) are not necessary. This person also told me that the blessing, and consumption of the Eucharist during mass is an act of sorcery. This non-denominational Christian mentioned to me that it is the Bible that we should "eat," and not the Eucharist. Furthermore, this individual told me that a Catholic baptism is not proper and that a true baptism is if one gets ducked in the water, and becomes "born again." This individual is constantly trying to convert me.
I will reiterate what Valletta said. Read the Fathers and the early church documents.

God bless
 
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