Do we always see?

[The IbanezerScrooge]

Do you think she is lying about meeting god?


Or do you refuse to understand

Lying? Maybe, but probably not. She likely believes that she saw something during her not death and filled in a LOT of gaps after the fact. Everything that she experienced was in her head. No one else experienced it. It all took place in her not dead brain.

I understand fully.

 

[JohnEmmett]

Everything that she saw was in her head.

I understand fully.

That is a fantasy

 

[The IbanezerScrooge]

That is a fantasy

Yeah, you could say what she experienced was fantasy, yes.

 

[JohnEmmett]

Yeah, you could say what she experienced was fantasy, yes.

No, I mean your fantasy, you believe in a mundane reality that does not exist

 

[The IbanezerScrooge]

No, I mean your fantasy, you believe in a mundane reality that does not exist

I believe in what can be demonstrated. A woman on a youtube video claiming she "died" and met "god" doesn't rise to the level needed to convince me. Sorry. What she experienced, if she's not just making it all up (of which you have zero assurance), was nothing more than a vivid brain-fart caused by her seizure.

 

[JohnEmmett]

I believe in what can be demonstrated.

Faith is necessary then things are demonstrated


Like watching the video

 

[The IbanezerScrooge]

Faith is necessary then things are demonstrated


Like watching the video

Sorry, that doesn't work for me. What else you got?

 

[JohnEmmett]

Sorry, that doesn't work for me. What else you got?

You can also learn from fiction

 

[The IbanezerScrooge]

You can also learn from fiction

Umm, sure.

 

[JohnEmmett]

Umm, sure.

Because life too is fiction

 

[The IbanezerScrooge]

Because life too is fiction

Nah, I don't think so. What the woman in the video described could be fiction. But not life. At least not mine. It's very real.

 

[JohnEmmett]

Nah, I don't think so. … At least not mine. It's very real.

Life is made of the same ideas

You find in fiction

 

[The IbanezerScrooge]

Life is made of the same ideas

You find in fiction

Well, yeah, because people who are alive created the fiction, which, unsurprisingly, mirrors life. What does this have to do with anything?

 

[JohnEmmett]

What does this have to do with anything?

The writer is god

 

[The IbanezerScrooge]

Your life is merely a story

The writer is god

You can say such things, but you can't demonstrate them to be true. Sorry. Doesn't work for me.

 

[JohnEmmett]

You can say such things, but you can't demonstrate them to be true.

If you were talking about your life… it would be a story

 

[The IbanezerScrooge]

If you were talking about your life… it would be a story

You should lookup Sean Carroll. He has thoughts about how life is made of stories. Pretty interesting stuff.

 

[Larniavc]

I've thought about it a bit, I understand that when you die, it just turns black, but consciousness itself takes some time to create, if it's not already there, then every person who is born, animal, and plants are descendants of this consciousness, it is not created new every time, you are only born with a body and a consciousness, and then you live life on this planet thanks to this life force that gives us life, the soul ours is not from genes either, people have been researching genes for several decades already, and have not found a single gene linked to consciousness, so there is another way in which it is transmitted, they say that nature lives, believe you there is some kind of, life force out there, in nature, from which we all originate? Have also noticed that when cats die, it looks like they are thinking of a place, that life is not final then, maybe at first I thought it was a way to get rid of the fear of dying, something you create yourself then, but it doesn't really look like that, does it?

Please show that animals and plants are descended from a previous consciousness.

 

[Lost4words]

If my owner puts alcohol in my bowl i develop super powers! I see things that ordinary Corgis dont!!!!

 

[JohnEmmett]

If my owner puts alcohol in my bowl i develop super powers! I see things that ordinary Corgis dont!!!!

This is foul