Why the weekly Sabbath (Saturday) is the Lord's Day, in the Bible

[SabbathBlessings]

The question was clearly about if the Sabbath rest of God was temporary or permanent.

I.e. if God works 6 days, rests 1 day and then works 6 days again, rests 1 day - and so on.

I answered the question….

It’s a patten that God established as an example for man. The Sabbath is a commandment of God, which means its not a suggestion.

We are the creation, not the Creator.

 

[trophy33]

I answered the question….

It’s a patten that God established as an example for man.

We are the creation, not the Creator.

You did not.

Lets try again - is the rest of God permanent or cyclical?

 

[SabbathBlessings]

You did not.

Lets try again - is the rest of God permanent or cyclical?

We are not God, we obey God if we believe and trust what He asks of us. God established a pattern and commanded us to keep this same pattern Exodus 20:8-11 what God does is not our concern unless He reveals it to us, God never commanded us to be God and people really need to stop trying and allow God to be God and we do that when we obey what He asks of us and trust its because its for our own good.

When we start questioning what He does and ignore what He asks, its dangerous ground.

 

[Leaf473]

We can question interpretations of the scriptures

 

[trophy33]

We are not God, we obey God if we believe and trust what He asks of us. God established a pattern and commanded us to keep this same pattern Exodus 20:8-11 what God does is not our concern unless He reveals it to us, God never commanded us to be God and people really need to stop trying and allow God to be God and we do that when we obey what He asks of us and trust its because its for our own good.

When we start questioning what He does and ignore what He asks, its dangerous ground.

OK, you will not answer the question, again. Instead, you are trying to talk about something else.

Where did God command us to keep Exodus 20:8? We are not ancient Israel.

Give me a specific and clear commandment of God to keep a weekly Sabbath, given to Christians or Gentiles.

 

[HIM]

Hebrews 4:10 clearly shows two rests and we enter His rest when we cease our works as God did from His

No the text does not say when. It says he that has entered, which is past tense This person who has entered also, in addition to entering into this rest to which they have entered also cease from their own works as God did His.

 

[HIM]

We can question interpretations of the scriptures

Not when they are correct. And that is not subject to opinion.

 

[HIM]

OK, you will not answer the question, again. Instead, you are trying to talk about something else.

Where did God command us to keep Exodus 20:8? We are not ancient Israel.

Give me a specific and clear commandment of God to keep a weekly Sabbath, given to Christians or Gentiles.

Spiritual things are spiritually discerned.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

OK, you will not answer the question, again. Instead, you are trying to talk about something else.

Where did God command us to keep Exodus 20:8? We are not ancient Israel.

Give me a specific and clear commandment of God to keep a weekly Sabbath, given to Christians or Gentiles.

Hebrews 8:10, Matthew 15:3-9 John 14:15, Matthew 19:17-19 1 John 5:3, Revelation 14:12 Revelation 22:14

 

[SabbathBlessings]

No the text does not say when. It says he that has entered, which is past tense This person who has entered also, in addition to entering into this rest to which they have entered also cease from their own works as God did His.

Hebrews 4:10 For he who has entered His rest has himself also ceased from his works as God did from His.

Are you saying no one can enter His gospel/spiritual rest now? This is an example of how to enter His rest for us to follow…

Hebrews 4:11 Let us therefore be diligent to enter that rest, lest anyone fall according to the same example of disobedience.

This is when God ceased from His works (the seventh day Hebrews 4:4 Genesis 2:1-3) if we allow the scripture to interpret itself and to enter His rest we also cease from our works as God did from His. There’s two rests here and it tells us how to enter His rest- has himself also ceased from his works as God did, which is the seventh day. This is teaching us to keep His Sabbath which is why it remains for God’s people Hebrews 4:9 NIV

I am open to listening to your explanation if you would like to elaborate ….

 

[trophy33]

Hebrews 8:10, Matthew 15:3-9 John 14:15, Matthew 19:17-19 1 John 5:3, Revelation 14:12 Revelation 22:14

I will try to ask again:

Give me a specific commandment of God given to Christians or to Gentiles to keep the weekly Sabbath.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

I will try to ask again:

Give me a specific commandment of God given to Christians or to Gentiles to keep the weekly Sabbath.

God only has one people, God never made a covenant with Gentiles, Israel is just a name God gave His people and we are grafted in His covenant promise through faith Gal 2:26-28 those with faith uphold the law Romans 3:31 and God’s people keeps God’s commandments Revelation 14:12 its a fruit of faith.

But we also have this…

Isaiah 56:6 “Also the sons of the foreigner (Gentile)
Who join themselves to the Lord, to serve Him,
And to love the name of the Lord, to be His servants—
Everyone who keeps from defiling the Sabbath,
And holds fast My covenant—
7 Even them I will bring to My holy mountain,
And make them joyful in My house of prayer.
Their burnt offerings and their sacrifices (sins forgiven)
Will be accepted on My altar;
For My house shall be called a house of prayer for all nations.”

I sure want God to bring me to His holy mountain!

 

[trophy33]

God only has one people, God never made a covenant with Gentiles, Israel is just a name God gave His people and we are grafted in through faith Gal 2:26-28 those with faith uphold the law Romans 3:31 and God’s people keeps God’s commandments Revelation 14:12 its a fruit of faith.

But we also have this…

Isaiah 56:6 “Also the sons of the foreigner (Gentile)
Who join themselves to the Lord, to serve Him,
And to love the name of the Lord, to be His servants—
Everyone who keeps from defiling the Sabbath,
And holds fast My covenant—
7 Even them I will bring to My holy mountain,
And make them joyful in My house of prayer.
Their burnt offerings and their sacrifices (sins forgiven)
Will be accepted on My altar;
For My house shall be called a house of prayer for all nations.”

I sure want God to bring me to His holy mountain!

So there is no specific commandment given to Christians or to Gentiles to keep the weekly Sabbath?

 

[HIM]

Hebrews 8:10 For he who has entered His rest has himself also ceased from his works as God did from His.

Are you saying no one can enter His rest now? This is an example of how to enter His rest for us to follow…

Hebrews 4:11 Let us therefore be diligent to enter that rest, lest anyone fall according to the same example of disobedience.

This when is when God ceased from His works (the seventh day Hebrews 4:4 Genesis 2:1-3) if we allow the scripture to interpret itself.

What did the post say? "No the text does not say when. It says he that has entered, which is past tense This person who has entered also, in addition to entering into this rest to which they have entered also cease from their own works as God did His."

If it is said in past tense then obviously some have entered as verse 3 states. This rest is the rest to which we receive in Christ Jesus which is the Gospel as verse 2 shows us. He that has entered in to this rest also, in addition to cease from their own works as God did from His. And that ceasing from work was a ceasing from labor on the Seventh Day. His creative work that He did so we can exist. And in this ceasing Exodus says, He was refreshed. So we who have entered into the Rest which is in Christ also, in ADDITION to cease from our labor, our creative work that we do to exist on the Seventh Day which is the Sabbath to be refreshed. As verse 4 and 5 states, For He spake in a certain place (Mt Sinia Ex 20, God did not speak in Gen 2:1-3) of the Seventh Day on this wise, And God did rest from all His works. And in this AGAIN (HE SPEAKS) if they shall enter into my rest. This rest which is the Gospel as verse 2 states. For he that enters into this rest cease from their own works as God did from His.


Exod 31:17 It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.

 

[HIM]

So there is no specific commandment given to Christians or to Gentiles to keep the weekly Sabbath?

Spiritual things are spiritual discerned.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

So there is no specific commandment given to Christians or to Gentiles to keep the weekly Sabbath?

I’m sorry thats what you got from those scriptures.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

What did the post say? "No the text does not say when. It says he that has entered, which is past tense This person who has entered also, in addition to entering into this rest to which they have entered also cease from their own works as God did His."

If it is said in past tense then obviously some have entered as verse 3 states. This rest is the rest to which we receive in Christ Jesus which is the Gospel as verse 2 shows us. He that has entered in to this rest also, in addition to cease from their own works as God did from His. And that ceasing from work was a ceasing from labor on the Seventh Day. His creative work that He did so we can exist. And in this ceasing Exodus says, He was refreshed. So we who have entered into the Rest which is in Christ also, in ADDITION to cease from our labor, our creative work that we do to exist on the Seventh Day which is the Sabbath to be refreshed. As verse 4 and 5 states, For He spake in a certain place (Mt Sinia Ex 20, God did not speak in Gen 2:1-3) of the Seventh Day on this wise, And God did rest from all His works. And in this AGAIN (HE SPEAKS) if they shall enter into my rest. This rest which is the Gospel as verse 3 states. For he that enters into this rest cease from their own works as God did from His.


Exod 31:17 It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.

We enter His rest and in ADDITION (also) we cease from our works as God did on the seventh day (Sabbath-keeping) so I am not sure what you are saying is much different that what I stated. There are two rests Christs rest and Sabbath-keeping rest. We enter Christ rest when we also in addition cease from our works as God did, on the seventh day and are refreshed, because God gives us spiritual rest when we rest in Him on the Sabbath by doing His ways and honoring Him Isaiah 58:13 and in return He blesses us Isaiah 58:14

I don’t see the also as separated rests in Hebrews 4:10 to me it means just that also, in addition.

 

[trophy33]

I’m sorry thats what you got from those scriptures.

No, its not. Its what you got from those scriptures.

I am asking you if you have a clear and specific commandment of God given to Christians or to Gentiles to keep the weekly Sabbath.

I am not asking you for your interpretation whether commandments given to Jews are for Christians or not.

 

[HIM]

We enter His rest and in ADDITION (also) we cease from our works as God did on the seventh day (Sabbath-keeping) so I am not sure what you are saying is much different that what I stated. There are two rests Christs rest and Sabbath-keeping rest. We enter Christ rest when we also in addition cease from our works as God did, on the seventh day.

THERE IS NO WHEN IN THE TEXT. That is the difference. You are adding what is not even implied by the grammar.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

No, its not. Its what you got from those scriptures.

I am asking you if you have a clear and specific commandment of God given to Christians or to Gentiles to keep the weekly Sabbath.

I am not asking you for your interpretation whether commandments given to Jews are for Christians or not.

Ok, I will leave it as agree to disagree. I wish you well in seeking Truth to His Word.