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Biden Stated numerous times he knew nothing about Hunter's business

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Hunter Biden’s business partners reportedly were frequently guests at the White House while his father, Joe Biden, as serving as vice president under President Barack Obama.​
According to a recent investigation by Fox News Digital, business partners from Hunter Biden‘s now-defunct firm visited the White House frequently.​
The report revealed that four of Hunter’s business partners, a vice president and two assistants from his investment firm, Rosemont Seneca Advisors, visited the White House more than 80 times during the period in which Joe Biden was vice president.
Although President Biden has repeatedly denied any knowledge of his son’s business dealings, visitor logs show that Joan Mayer, the former vice president of Rosemont Seneca Advisors, visited the White House at least 17 times between 2008 and 2017, when Joe Biden was vice president.​
 

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The weight of the world on his shoulders and a son dying from glioblastoma cancer caused by burn pits in Afghanistan, and another son snorting his grief up his nose, and you think he was conspiring?

No one stays alive in politics for over 50 years unless they keep a reasonable distance from their crazy relatives. Jimmy Carter had Billy. Bill Clinton had Roger. Joe Biden had Hunter.

You can love your siblings or children unconditionally, and I'm sure Joe does, but he didn't stay in Congress and the Senate for all those years by getting mixed up in his problems.
 
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Hunter Biden’s business partners reportedly were frequently guests at the White House while his father, Joe Biden, as serving as vice president under President Barack Obama.​
According to a recent investigation by Fox News Digital, business partners from Hunter Biden‘s now-defunct firm visited the White House frequently.​
The report revealed that four of Hunter’s business partners, a vice president and two assistants from his investment firm, Rosemont Seneca Advisors, visited the White House more than 80 times during the period in which Joe Biden was vice president.
Although President Biden has repeatedly denied any knowledge of his son’s business dealings, visitor logs show that Joan Mayer, the former vice president of Rosemont Seneca Advisors, visited the White House at least 17 times between 2008 and 2017, when Joe Biden was vice president.​
That's nice. It would be a lot more convincing if it claimed they had met with the Vice President, or with his staff, 80 different times. To give a prime example, it states that, "Another former Hunter Biden assistant, Anne Marie Person, visited the White House at least five times before she left the firm in 2014 to join then-Vice President Biden‘s staff." How many of those five times was to interview for the White House job she ended up getting?

Another claim is, "During Mayer’s visits, she met with a range of White House officials, including then-Biden aide Danielle Borrin, then-Biden executive assistant Nancy Orloff, and Kellen Suber, who was one of Vice President Biden’s executive assistants at the time." That sounds interesting but it lacks a lot of detail -- how many times did Mayer visit the three Biden assistants. Though, going to the original article, it sounds as if it was exactly three trips -- she met each one time on different trips.

The issue is, just visiting the White House is meaningless -- as I understand it, there are just under 2,000 people that work at "the White House" -- which includes the Eisenhower Executive Office Building, where the VPs offices are.

If they were visiting the Vice President, the article would state they visited the VP (or his staff) more than 80 times, or even more than 50 times -- instead, they list 3, that I recall seeing. Additionally, there are a number of social functions at the White House for holidays and other events, and I would assume a son of the VP would want to "show off" to colleagues by getting him invitations to these social events -- and the article does report that, "In December 2013 and 2014, Mayer attended holiday receptions at the vice president's White House residence at Number One Observatory Circle, according to visitor logs. In September 2015, she attended a Jewish community reception at the vice president’s residence."

Again, if they met with Joe Biden, then the log would show that is who they met with -- but they aren't claiming there are any meetings with Biden. It isn't even really claiming more than a handful of visits with the Vice President's staff members, it lists three (and maybe a couple more than I'm forgetting) visits with members of Biden's staff. While it might be worth their investigating further, none of this shows, much less provides evidence, that Joe Biden was in anyway involved with Hunter's business; it would need to spell out who the meetings were with and the reasons given for the meetings.
 
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The weight of the world on his shoulders and a son dying from glioblastoma cancer caused by burn pits in Afghanistan, and another son snorting his grief up his nose, and you think he was conspiring?

No one stays alive in politics for over 50 years unless they keep a reasonable distance from their crazy relatives. Jimmy Carter had Billy. Bill Clinton had Roger. Joe Biden had Hunter.

You can love your siblings or children unconditionally, and I'm sure Joe does, but he didn't stay in Congress and the Senate for all those years by getting mixed up in his problems.
You must have worded this poorly because I cannot beleive your idea of unconditional love is to ignore the problems of those you unconditionally love because they might get in the way of your political ambitions?
 
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You must have worded this poorly because I cannot beleive your idea of unconditional love is to ignore the problems of those you unconditionally love because they might get in the way of your political ambitions?
I think it is the way you are attempting to read it. By "getting mixed up in his problems," I read it as trying to use his position to help his son in unethical/illegal ways. It isn't saying that you don't attempt to get help for your son (such as trying to get him into rehab), just that you don't get involved with his misdeeds.
 
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I'm not sure why you're obsessing about this. Let's say for the moment that this actually showed Biden lied (and it doesn't). So what? Yes, it would be unethical. If Biden did actually lie, we should criticize his lying. But it's not illegal. There are no political repercussions.

And there would be nothing wrong with Biden knowing about his son's business dealings with China. It's okay to do business with China. China is a major trading partner of the US.

To actually get some dirt, you have to find some kind of quid pro quo. Or Joe skimming some money off the deals. So far, there's no sign of that.
 
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I'm not sure why you're obsessing about this. Let's say for the moment that this actually showed Biden lied (and it doesn't). So what? Yes, it would be unethical. If Biden did actually lie, we should criticize his lying. But it's not illegal. There are no political repercussions.

And there would be nothing wrong with Biden knowing about his son's business dealings with China. It's okay to do business with China. China is a major trading partner of the US.

To actually get some dirt, you have to find some kind of quid pro quo. Or Joe skimming some money off the deals. So far, there's no sign of that.
you mean something like maybe this Obama’s stenographer: Biden is a criminal (04-12-2023–Hour1)
 
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The weight of the world on his shoulders and a son dying from glioblastoma cancer caused by burn pits in Afghanistan, and another son snorting his grief up his nose, and you think he was conspiring?

Conspiring?

He's a politician. He was robbing you. That's what they all do. That's all any of them do.

What do you think he was doing? Writing policy?

No one stays alive in politics for over 50 years unless

They're dirty. Gotta have some dirt on you or the rest of them won't want you around. You'll get no campaign funds.

You can love your siblings or children unconditionally, and I'm sure Joe does, but he didn't stay in Congress and the Senate for all those years by getting mixed up in his problems.

I don't know what you think is happening here....

We got people on one thread 100% sure Trump is going away for the next 50 years and Joe is 100% clean. It's baffling. Did you know China sent Joe a list of his own son's bank statements?


Hey....hey Joe, that spy balloon is going to be hitting the west coast, don't shoot it down or we aren't gonna be happy. Hey Joe, Trump started an initiative to remove our spies from your country and stealing valuable tech that takes billions for you to develop....you should put an end to that. Big waste of time.


Sure, sure....the Chinese avoid doing all the front end research and development (which we subsidize btw) and save money by stealing it on the back end for peanuts (which was what this initiative wanted to put a dent in) yet....for some reason....Biden killed the initiative. He doesn't want people thinking bad things about the Chinese or Asians in general just because of some attempt to prevent them from robbing us....he wants you to stay focused on whites and Christians.

Always remember, this administration wants you to stay hateful of whites and Christians.

It's not that Joe is corrupt....they're all corrupt to some degree. It's that Joe is old and corrupt. His brain has quite possibly melted. He doesn't appear to know where he's going or what he's doing. He's been at this for so long that he doesn't even remember which tracks he needs to cover. He's leaving classified documents in his corvette. His son can't hide his connections to the Ukraine or China so he's been selling "paintings" to the wealthy for millions of dollars instead. Those aren't being bought for a love of fine art people. Wake up already.
 
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I think it is the way you are attempting to read it. By "getting mixed up in his problems," I read it as trying to use his position to help his son in unethical/illegal ways. It isn't saying that you don't attempt to get help for your son (such as trying to get him into rehab), just that you don't get involved with his misdeeds.

Biden probably shouldn't be taking 10% then. The only reason Ukrainian oligarchs hire a crackhead lawyer from the US is because his daddy is vice president.

Unless you imagine the "big guy" is his drug dealer.
 
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Conspiring?

He's a politician. He was robbing you. That's what they all do. That's all any of them do.

What do you think he was doing? Writing policy?



They're dirty. Gotta have some dirt on you or the rest of them won't want you around. You'll get no campaign funds.



I don't know what you think is happening here....

We got people on one thread 100% sure Trump is going away for the next 50 years and Joe is 100% clean. It's baffling. Did you know China sent Joe a list of his own son's bank statements?
Yawn. The article has zero information connecting the president to Hunter and James Biden's business affairs.

The spy balloon was blocked from receiving info until it could be shot down without endangering human life. China used them in the Trump era too but they didn't notice. Hmm.

Tariffs were removed from Chinese solar panels to address climate change. A strategic exemption, perhaps like what Chinese companies manufacturing Ivanka's products received? Not really. Saving the planet is a purer motive than building daughter's fortune.

While we have been helping Ukraine abd NATO combat Russian empire building, we have not been ignoring China.
 
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My stars, these people were in the same building together?
Let's review:

Hunters business partners had more than 80 visits at the White House - never had any visits before or after Biden was in office, so I guess you could leave off the 'they really liked the cookies" excuse.
 
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And while other banks have blocked access, the Chinese-linked bank Cathay Bank has just released Hunter Biden’s bank records to House Republicans.​
By participating, some believe the bank may be sending a message or even a threat to the Biden family following months of suggestions from others that the president himself may be compromised.​
 
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Hunter Biden’s former business partner, John Robinson "Rob" Walker, appears to have visited the White House at least 16 times when President Biden was vice president.​
Walker’s name resurfaced a couple of weeks ago when House Oversight Committee Republicans said they obtained records showing members of the Biden family received more than $1 million in payments from accounts related to Walker and their Chinese business ventures in 2017.​
 
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Biden probably shouldn't be taking 10% then. The only reason Ukrainian oligarchs hire a crackhead lawyer from the US is because his daddy is vice president.

Unless you imagine the "big guy" is his drug dealer.
The author of the email has stated that Joe Biden is not the "big guy." Beyond that, the deal fell through -- so 10% of nothing is nothing. Much like with Trump, I'm waiting to see what investigators find. At the same time, Biden was never my choice, I've never cared for him and would love the Democrats to have a different Presidential Nominee in 2024 -- I'd love for neither Biden nor Trump to be the choices.

As for Burisma, Hunter was qualified for what he was hired to do -- they wanted a director to oversee their legal department and Hunter had experience for that. Before you say that "he had no oil experience", go look at the board of Exxon Mobile and tell me how many of them have oil and/or gas experience (particularly the economics professor from Stanford or the Insurance executives).

I think we can all agree that Hunter has traded on the family name -- just as many children of politicians have done. Do you think Pres. Bush's daughter would be working at NBC if not for her father? This has happened throughout history (though more typically it was mandated, with inherited titles) and will continue into the future. I am not aware of a way to stop it, and that likely there is no way to limit it -- can you think of a way?
 
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I'm not sure why you're obsessing about this. Let's say for the moment that this actually showed Biden lied (and it doesn't). So what? Yes, it would be unethical. If Biden did actually lie, we should criticize his lying. But it's not illegal. There are no political repercussions.

And there would be nothing wrong with Biden knowing about his son's business dealings with China. It's okay to do business with China. China is a major trading partner of the US.

To actually get some dirt, you have to find some kind of quid pro quo. Or Joe skimming some money off the deals. So far, there's no sign of that.
We can all only dream of doing business with China and the other foreign entities the way Hunter Biden has. Being gifted million for ? , well that seems a bit unknown. Certainly not just because he is related to a high-ranking U.S. government official. Since we all are sure that the big guy is absolutely innocent of influence-peddling using his son as a proxy, it must be Hunter's winning personality, diligence and sobriety that causes foreign entities to shovel money at him with no visible return on their investment. At least none that we have seen Hunter directly provide . I am sure if we all displayed the fine upstanding characteristics Hunter Biden has exampled for us, we too would be recipients of vast sums of money from foreign entities just for being so lovable.
 
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Biden probably shouldn't be taking 10% then. The only reason Ukrainian oligarchs hire a crackhead lawyer from the US is because his daddy is vice president.

Unless you imagine the "big guy" is his drug dealer.
What 10% from the Ukrainian oligarchs? And if they hired Hunter for some kind of protection, that sure backfired.
 
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We can all only dream of doing business with China and the other foreign entities the way Hunter Biden has. Being gifted million for ? , well that seems a bit unknown. Certainly not just because he is related to a high-ranking U.S. government official. Since we all are sure that the big guy is absolutely innocent of influence-peddling using his son as a proxy, it must be Hunter's winning personality, diligence and sobriety that causes foreign entities to shovel money at him with no visible return on their investment. At least none that we have seen Hunter directly provide . I am sure if we all displayed the fine upstanding characteristics Hunter Biden has exampled for us, we too would be recipients of vast sums of money from foreign entities just for being so lovable.
Perhaps in hiring Burisma was concerned because the corrupt entities within the Ukrainian government that protected them, were under threat by the EU, the IMF, Ukrainian anti-corruption groups, and alas; the US with that effort spearheaded by VP Joe Biden and supported by several Republicans demanding something done. So they requested the Ukrainian DA who wasn't doing anything about corruption be removed. Maybe Burisma seen hiring the VP's son as a kind of protection. Except, if true, it had no impact what so ever. So this is the influence peddling: The prosecutor was removed, replaced, and Burisma placed under investigation.
 
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