Donald Trump indicted by Manhattan grand jury

[Postvieww]

Great. He also thought Trump didn't do anything wrong while Trump et al conspired to steal election.

False ! Someone has been watching too much MSM!

 

[Postvieww]

That isn't true. She did have a private server and she did get classified emails which she oughtn't to have. However, she cooperated with the FBI and gave them copies of the server before destroying it. Hillary

I am starting to doubt that Susan Mallery, quote!

 

[Postvieww]

Yes. I'm certain the NY prosecutor who prosecutes many of these types of cases will not be prepared for his case against one of the most powerful men in the world who is known to be vindictive to an extreme. I doubt he would have compiled compelling evidence to present while the eyes of the world are on him. It will be a slam dunk against him.

There is no "compelling evidence" here. Braqg doesn't even have jurisdiction over Federal election law. The FEC does and they found no reason to prosecute. This is a sham case brought by a George Sorros backed political hack! NEXT CASE PLEASE.

 

[JosephZ]

Not to mention the FEC has jurisdiction over Federal election violations NOT BRAGG!

Braqg doesn't even have jurisdiction over Federal election law.

DA Bragg hasn't charged Trump with violating election law.

There is no "compelling evidence" here.

You haven't seen the evidence. It hasn't been shared with the public.

 

[DaisyDay]

It depends on who you are.

A normal person.

 

[NxNW]

You said he was subject to prosecution and hadn’t learned his lesson. How can he learn from something that’s never happened?

Define "prosecuted". He's admitted to fraud more than once, he's been sued many times, and he was impeached twice.

 

[NxNW]

There is no "compelling evidence" here. Braqg doesn't even have jurisdiction over Federal election law. The FEC does and they found no reason to prosecute. This is a sham case brought by a George Sorros backed political hack! NEXT CASE PLEASE.

You spelled Soros wrong in your antisemitic post above.

 

[JosephZ]

The FEC does and they found no reason to prosecute.

This isn't true. The FEC found plenty of reasons to prosecute Trump.

FEDERAL ELECTION COMMISSION

FIRST GENERAL COUNSEL’S REPORT

The available information thus indicates that Cohen, Trump, the Trump Committee, the
Trump Organization, and Essential Consultants were aware that their conduct was unlawful.
Accordingly, we recommend that the Commission find reason to believe that these respondents’
violations of the Act and Commission regulations... were knowing and willful


V. RECOMMENDATIONS

MURs 7313 and 7319

3. Find reason to believe that Donald J. Trump knowingly and willfully violated
52 U.S.C. § 30116(f) by knowingly accepting excessive contributions from Michael
D. Cohen;
4. Find reason to believe that Donald J. Trump knowingly and willfully violated
52 U.S.C. § 30122 by knowingly accepting a contribution in the name of another;
5. Find reason to believe that Donald J. Trump knowingly and willfully violated
52 U.S.C. § 30118(a) by knowingly accepting a corporate contribution from the
Trump Organization OR knowingly and willfully violated 52 U.S.C. § 30116(f) by
knowingly accepting an excessive contribution from the Trump Organization;
6. Find reason to believe that Donald J. Trump for President, Inc., and Bradley T.
Crate in his official capacity as treasurer knowingly and willfully violated 52 U.S.C.
§ 30104(b) and 11 C.F.R. § 104.3(a) and (b) by filing false disclosure reports with
the Commission;
7. Find reason to believe that Donald J. Trump for President, Inc., and Bradley T.
Crate in his official capacity as treasurer knowingly and willfully violated 52 U.S.C.
§ 30116(f) by knowingly accepting excessive contributions from Michael D.
Cohen;
8. Find reason to believe that Donald J. Trump for President, Inc., and Bradley T.
Crate in his official capacity as treasurer knowingly and willfully violated 52 U.S.C.
§ 30122 by knowingly accepting a contribution in the name of another;
9. Find reason to believe that Donald J. Trump for President, Inc., and Bradley T.
Crate in his official capacity as treasurer knowingly and willfully violated 52 U.S.C.
§ 30118(a) by knowingly accepting a corporate contribution from the Trump
Organization OR knowingly and willfully violated 52 U.S.C. § 30116(f) by
knowingly accepting an excessive contribution from the Trump Organization;
10. Find reason to believe that Trump Organization, LLC, knowingly and willfully
violated 52 U.S.C. § 30118(a) by making a corporate contribution OR knowingly
and willfully violated 52 U.S.C. § 30116(a)(1)(A) by making an excessive
contribution;

https://www.fec.gov/files/legal/murs/7313/7313_19.pdf

The reasons given for dropping the investgation of Trump are given below:

[W]e concluded that pursuing these matters further was not the best use of agency
resources.

The Commission regularly dismisses matters where other government agencies have
already adequately enforced and vindicated the Commission’s interests.

Furthermore, by the time OGC’s recommendations came before us, the Commission was facing an extensive
enforcement docket backlog resulting from a prolonged lack of a quorum, and these matters
were already statute-of-limitations imperiled. These are precisely the prudential factors cited by
the U.S. Supreme Court in Heckler v. Chaney, and why we voted to dismiss these matters as an
exercise of our prosecutorial discretion.

https://www.fec.gov/files/legal/murs/7313/7313_27.pdf

 

[BPPLEE]

This isn't true. The FEC found plenty of reasons to prosecute Trump.

FEDERAL ELECTION COMMISSION

FIRST GENERAL COUNSEL’S REPORT

The available information thus indicates that Cohen, Trump, the Trump Committee, the
Trump Organization, and Essential Consultants were aware that their conduct was unlawful.
Accordingly, we recommend that the Commission find reason to believe that these respondents’
violations of the Act and Commission regulations... were knowing and willful


V. RECOMMENDATIONS

MURs 7313 and 7319

3. Find reason to believe that Donald J. Trump knowingly and willfully violated
52 U.S.C. § 30116(f) by knowingly accepting excessive contributions from Michael
D. Cohen;
4. Find reason to believe that Donald J. Trump knowingly and willfully violated
52 U.S.C. § 30122 by knowingly accepting a contribution in the name of another;
5. Find reason to believe that Donald J. Trump knowingly and willfully violated
52 U.S.C. § 30118(a) by knowingly accepting a corporate contribution from the
Trump Organization OR knowingly and willfully violated 52 U.S.C. § 30116(f) by
knowingly accepting an excessive contribution from the Trump Organization;
6. Find reason to believe that Donald J. Trump for President, Inc., and Bradley T.
Crate in his official capacity as treasurer knowingly and willfully violated 52 U.S.C.
§ 30104(b) and 11 C.F.R. § 104.3(a) and (b) by filing false disclosure reports with
the Commission;
7. Find reason to believe that Donald J. Trump for President, Inc., and Bradley T.
Crate in his official capacity as treasurer knowingly and willfully violated 52 U.S.C.
§ 30116(f) by knowingly accepting excessive contributions from Michael D.
Cohen;
8. Find reason to believe that Donald J. Trump for President, Inc., and Bradley T.
Crate in his official capacity as treasurer knowingly and willfully violated 52 U.S.C.
§ 30122 by knowingly accepting a contribution in the name of another;
9. Find reason to believe that Donald J. Trump for President, Inc., and Bradley T.
Crate in his official capacity as treasurer knowingly and willfully violated 52 U.S.C.
§ 30118(a) by knowingly accepting a corporate contribution from the Trump
Organization OR knowingly and willfully violated 52 U.S.C. § 30116(f) by
knowingly accepting an excessive contribution from the Trump Organization;
10. Find reason to believe that Trump Organization, LLC, knowingly and willfully
violated 52 U.S.C. § 30118(a) by making a corporate contribution OR knowingly
and willfully violated 52 U.S.C. § 30116(a)(1)(A) by making an excessive
contribution;

https://www.fec.gov/files/legal/murs/7313/7313_19.pdf

The reasons given for dropping the investgation of Trump are given below:

[W]e concluded that pursuing these matters further was not the best use of agency
resources.

The Commission regularly dismisses matters where other government agencies have
already adequately enforced and vindicated the Commission’s interests.

Furthermore, by the time OGC’s recommendations came before us, the Commission was facing an extensive
enforcement docket backlog resulting from a prolonged lack of a quorum, and these matters
were already statute-of-limitations imperiled. These are precisely the prudential factors cited by
the U.S. Supreme Court in Heckler v. Chaney, and why we voted to dismiss these matters as an
exercise of our prosecutorial discretion.

https://www.fec.gov/files/legal/murs/7313/7313_27.pdf

Would’ve could’ve should’ve

 

[Postvieww]

You spelled Soros wrong in your antisemitic post above.

Well I guess since I misspelled his name that proves he didn't back Bragg. Wow I should be more careful.

 

[BPPLEE]

Well I guess since I misspelled his name that proves he didn't back Bragg. Wow I should be more careful.

And just mentioning his name makes you anti-Semitic

 

[Postvieww]

DA Bragg hasn't charged Trump with violating election law.

That's great news. Can you explain how he raised a misdemeanor to a felony?

 

[Postvieww]

And just mentioning his name makes you anti-Semitic

Common tactic of the left. Everyone they disagree with is either racist, antisemitic or have some phobia.

 

[JosephZ]

That's great news. Can you explain how he raised a misdemeanor to a felony?

What is there to explain? The falsification of business records to commit or conceal another crime is a felony in NY.

§ 175.10 Falsifying business records in the first degree.

A person is guilty of falsifying business records in the first degree
when he commits the crime of falsifying business records in the second
degree, and when his intent to defraud includes an intent to commit
another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof.

Falsifying business records in the first degree is a class E felony.

 

[DaisyDay]

And just mentioning his name makes you anti-Semitic

No, but those who are anti-Semitic tend to use him as a boogeyman.

 

[Postvieww]

What is there to explain? The falsification of business records to conceal another crime is a felony in NY.

What is the other crime? Many great legal minds can't find it. Maybe you can point it out. We have to have that other crime to bump the misdemeanors to felonies.

 

[Postvieww]

No, but those who are anti-Semitic tend to use him as a boogeyman.

He is a "boogeyman" and it has nothing to do with his ethnicity.

 

[JosephZ]

What is the other crime? Many great legal minds can't find it. Maybe you can point it out. We have to have that other crime to bump the misdemeanors to felonies.

See this post where I answered this question for you earlier in the thread.

 

[essentialsaltes]

“Second, the paperwork violation in question came well after Trump’s 2016 election, so it couldn’t have been done to help his election.

Obviously, these paperwork violations were part of a larger scheme (potentially in furtherance of another crime) involving Cohen and Stormy Daniels, with a crucial bit (the hush money) coming shortly before the election.

Third, it is not obvious that the reason for the payment and the reimbursement to Cohen was to influence the election,

The DA has referred to Trump delaying the payment:

Trump instructed Cohen “that if they could delay the payment until after the election, they could avoid paying altogether, because at that point it would not matter if the story became public,” Bragg alleged.

If that allegation is true, it is obvious that the payment was about influencing the election.

 

[Yttrium]

See this post where I answered this question for you earlier in the thread.

Those are alleged crimes. He's considered innocent of them under the law until proven guilty. He needs to be charged and convicted of at least one of them for the felony aspect of the indictment, I would think.