Science and the Neolithic Revolution

[Diamond72]

I've never seen any reasonable evidence confirming humans possessing race memory aside from an empathy for things they have consciously learned about the past.

Black Families Have Inherited Trauma, but We Can Change That

When I look at my life, family, and community, I wonder: which patterns are authentically ours, and which are a result of cultural PTSD?

www.healthline.com

 

[Larniavc]

@Diamond7 your post is in quote marks. What is the original source?

@Frank Robert : to what extent do you feel there is alignment between Diamond7's "trial and error" and your description of the scientific process?

It’s from ChatBox. They admitted to it in another thread.

 

[Larniavc]

Yes, but some of the learning gets passed to the next generation, as what they call instinct.

No. It’s not called instinct. Information that gets passed down through generations is called ‘Culture’.

 

[Larniavc]

I was talking to a girl once and I had a vision where I could see shackles on her ankles. I did not say anything to her, but I think she knew.

So both of you have magical powers! You can read a person’s ancestor’s lives and she could read your mind.

 

[Shemjaza]

Black Families Have Inherited Trauma, but We Can Change That

When I look at my life, family, and community, I wonder: which patterns are authentically ours, and which are a result of cultural PTSD?

www.healthline.com

Not a single example of skills, technology or memories being transferred.

Animal instinct and epigenetic effects are absolutely real... but but instinctive technology and race memory are not supported by evidence.

 

[Diamond72]

It’s from ChatBox.

GPT 3, Bing use GPT 4 now. Bill Gates bought it from Musk to keep up with Google search. I have chrome so I have to use the older version.

 

[Larniavc]

but but instinctive technology and race memory are not supported by evidence.

Oh yeah? What about Ork Mekboyz, smart guy?

 

[Shemjaza]

Oh yeah? What about Ork Mekboyz, smart guy?

Xenos Heresy.

 

[Diamond72]

Not a single example of skills, technology or memories being transferred.

Animal instinct and epigenetic effects are absolutely real... but but instinctive technology and race memory are not supported by evidence.

Many scientists and scholars argue that race is a social construct and not a biological reality.

Overall, the question of whether or not trauma can be inherited is complex and the subject of ongoing scientific inquiry. While there is evidence to support the idea of intergenerational effects, further research is needed to better understand the mechanisms underlying these effects and the extent to which they may be influenced by genetic or environmental factors.

 

[Shemjaza]

Many scientists and scholars argue that race is a social construct and not a biological reality.

Irrelevant to the point.

Race memory is a common name for inheriting memories from ancestors... the labels and attitudes towards racial groups is an independent issue.

Overall, the question of whether or not trauma can be inherited is complex and the subject of ongoing scientific inquiry. While there is evidence to support the idea of intergenerational effects, further research is needed to better understand the mechanisms underlying these effects and the extent to which they may be influenced by genetic or environmental factors.

All fair and still does not in any way present evidence for inheriting memory or instinctive technology.

 

[Diamond72]

All fair and still does not in any way present evidence for inheriting memory or instinctive technology.

There is evidence in mice and flies that they inherit memory.
This is something they are still working on.

 

[Shemjaza]

There is evidence in mice and flies that they inherit memory.
This is something they are still working on.

Is it actually evidence for memory... or is it more evidence for epigenetic triggers, because that is not the same thing.

 

[Diamond72]

Is it actually evidence for memory... or is it more evidence for epigenetic triggers, because that is not the same thing.

Research on mice and flies has provided evidence for both memory and epigenetic triggers, but they are not necessarily the same thing.

In studies on mice and flies, researchers have been able to show that certain genes and neural pathways are involved in the formation and storage of memories. They have also been able to manipulate these genes and pathways to enhance or impair memory formation.

At the same time, these studies have also shown that epigenetic triggers can play a significant role in regulating gene expression and shaping neural networks, which can in turn affect memory formation and recall. For example, stress and other environmental factors can cause changes in DNA methylation and histone modification, which can alter the expression of genes involved in memory processes.

So while research on mice and flies has provided important insights into the mechanisms of memory formation and recall, it has also highlighted the complex interplay between genetic and environmental factors in shaping these processes.

 

[Shemjaza]

Research on mice and flies has provided evidence for both memory and epigenetic triggers, but they are not necessarily the same thing.

In studies on mice and flies, researchers have been able to show that certain genes and neural pathways are involved in the formation and storage of memories. They have also been able to manipulate these genes and pathways to enhance or impair memory formation.

At the same time, these studies have also shown that epigenetic triggers can play a significant role in regulating gene expression and shaping neural networks, which can in turn affect memory formation and recall. For example, stress and other environmental factors can cause changes in DNA methylation and histone modification, which can alter the expression of genes involved in memory processes.

So while research on mice and flies has provided important insights into the mechanisms of memory formation and recall, it has also highlighted the complex interplay between genetic and environmental factors in shaping these processes.

I accept that memories are part of the physical body and can be affected by epigenetic triggers... what I haven't seen any evidence presented is the recording of memories into the epigenetics and then extraction in the next generation.

Epigenetic changes that change focus and priority of memory formation isn't evidence that actual memories can be transferred this way.

 

[Diamond72]

what I haven't seen any evidence presented is the recording of memories into the epigenetics and then extraction in the next generation.

This is where we start because without this we have nothing.

Dartmouth Study Finds That Parental ‘Memory’ is Inherited Across Generations in Fruit Flies

A new study by Dartmouth researchers, published this week in eLIFE, reveals that when threatened, female fruit flies switch to ethanol-rich food to protect their eggs from predatory wasps, and that…

geiselmed.dartmouth.edu

 

[Shemjaza]

This is where we start because without this we have nothing.

Dartmouth Study Finds That Parental ‘Memory’ is Inherited Across Generations in Fruit Flies

A new study by Dartmouth researchers, published this week in eLIFE, reveals that when threatened, female fruit flies switch to ethanol-rich food to protect their eggs from predatory wasps, and that…

geiselmed.dartmouth.edu

There's nothing wrong with speculation and looking for evidence... but you made absolute statements, without direct evidence or even a proposed mechanism... those statements were false.

 

[Diamond72]

but you made absolute statements, without direct evidence or even a proposed mechanism...

Memories Are Passed Through DNA From Your Grandparents, Say Scientists

Memories Are Passed Through DNA From Your Grandparents, Say Scientists | Buzzworthy

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[AV1611VET]

... but you made absolute statements, without direct evidence or even a proposed mechanism... those statements were false.

Sounds like how academia views the Bible, doesn't it?

 

[Diamond72]

Sounds like how academia views the Bible, doesn't it?

It is amazing they have zip, zero, zilch, nothing to show the Bible is not 100% accurate and true. Then they try to deny the mountain of evidence we present showing how accurate and true the Bible is. They would deny that grass is green and the sky is blue if they thought they could get away with it.
Exodus 24:10 NIV
Under his feet was something like a pavement made of lapis lazuli, as bright blue as the sky.
Psalm 22:3
He maketh me to lie down in green pastures

 

[Shemjaza]

Sounds like how academia views the Bible, doesn't it?

Not really, you may disagree with the statements and conclusions and you may in fact be right... but you absolutely agree that non-literal interpretations and mythologies can exist, but you don't think they apply to the Bible.