Why did McCarthy Give Tucker Carlson Exclusive Access to J6 Footage?

[rjs330]

Carslon: 'They were peaceful, orderly and meek. They were no insurrectionists. They were sightseers.'

At about 1'40" in this video.

The first minute or so which actually shows people being the exact opposite of peaceful, orderly and meek. It shows a lot of violence. And this video from a guy who has admitted that they will only show you what you want to see. I cannot comprehend how gullible people can be when those they refer to for their information actually admit to lying to you.

Actually you proved his point. We have only been shown the video the democrats wanted us to see.

You have only been shown the violent group. You were never shown the peaceful group. This is how we get manipulated. Show us the whole truth.
We have been lied to alright. How o. Earth can you claim Carlson is lying when he is showing us all of it. You would have a claim if he only showed the peaceful stuff and said the demonstration was only peaceful and never showed the others being violent. But HE DIDNT DO THAT.

That's what the Democrats did. THEY are the LIARS. Show is the truth and let us make our own decisions. This was no insurrection as we have been sold. It's a lie. There were violent people there. That broke and damaged property. There were some that rioted. That's a fact. But there were also thousands more that entered the capitol and walked around peacefully, staying in the ropes. Some even picked stuff up and put it away like that tripod. They were packing guns around. They weren't running through the halls like maniacs.

Why that shaman was escorted around by the police who even opened doors for him. He even prayed for them.

It seems like you only want to tell one part of the story. Not all of it. That is very concerning.

I wonder what you and all the other leftists would say if all you were shown was the peaceful side of things and the videos of the violent people were left out. And the media and Republicans all said it was a peaceful protest in the capitol.

Then later a CNN talking head came out with the video of the mobs who were yelling and breaking things. You would be accusing the Republicans and media of lying to you about what happened.

Yes, you have been lied to. And now the truth is out. It wasn't a real insurrection and most of the people there were orderly and calm. They were running around smashing things breaking into rooms carrying weapons and trying to burn the place down.

We've all been manipulated. And it's good to see the truth come out.

Now everyone who committed unlawful acts including going into the capitol when it was closed and no one was supposed to be in there should be charged with trespassing. I don't care if you were peaceful or not. You should have obeyed the law and not entered. Pay for the consequences of your actions. That's what a society based on the rule of law should be.

That shaman as nice as he was should be charged with trespassing. I can go with that.

But that's it. The rule of law should be equitable and fair. A few days in jail and a fine. That's all they deserve.

Those that were actually rioting and smashing windows out side, spraying cops and pushing barricades into them should be charged with rioting and assault on police officers and vandalism. They should have the book thrown at them. We as a society cannot and must not tolerate that behavior. But unfortunately we have and it started with the BLM riots. I wish they would put as much effort and money and investigation into who committed those acts as we have into this. Because they were way worse.

 

[rjs330]

Fox News has about 1.5 million views a day. It's two competitors in the cable news space are CNN and MSNCB. Those two channels have a combined viewership of around 1.3 million. So in it's actual industry, Fox News is not only in the mainstream but the dominant provider. Let's talk about network TV. Sinclair Broadcasting, which is the second largest operator of television channels in the country is famous for skewing right, to the point where the local news anchors were required to read statements based on conservative talking points. The biggest operator of television channels in the country is NexStar, and they appear to be trying to stay more center of the road when it comes to political reporting.

I will say that print media appears to be more liberal as a whole, but even there conservative publications do very well. Leaving aside USA Today which has a rather muddled political history, 3 of the top 6 papers are liberal and 2 of the top 6 are conservative. The two conservative papers, incidentally both owned by the same company, have a combined circulation of around 1.4 million people. Those papers are the Wall Street Journal and NY Post in case you are wondering. The three liberal papers, NYT, WP and LA Times, combine to have a circulation of around 1.1 million people. So again, the conservative papers are actually slightly dominate.

So it's hard to claim that Fox News is some kind of radical outsider when the numbers show that conservatives media outlets are just as much in the mainstream as liberal outlets.

Never hear of Sinclair Broadcasting news. Never got it on cable or satellite. When scrolling through all the news channels or news broadcast I get CNN, FOX, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC.

FOX is 1 out 5. The Newspapers are thousands. So FOX is 1 out of thousands of voices if not millions. Add to that News magazines.

No that does not equate with mainstream. It's an outlier. Add into that social media which has been predominately leftist and you have even more.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

Never hear of Sinclair Broadcasting news. Never got it on cable or satellite. When scrolling through all the news channels or news broadcast I get CNN, FOX, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC.

They own a large percentage of local affiliate stations (Fox, ABC, CBS, NBC, CW, etc). There's a decent chance that at least one of those news channels you see is owned by Sinclair. See their station map here: TV Stations at Sinclair Broadcast Group

 

[essentialsaltes]

You have only been shown the violent group. You were never shown the peaceful group.

Of course we have been shown lots of people waving Trump flags peacefully.
But unless peaceful people have been charged with violent crimes, this makes no significant difference.

 

[iluvatar5150]

Never hear of Sinclair Broadcasting news. Never got it on cable or satellite. When scrolling through all the news channels or news broadcast I get CNN, FOX, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC.

FOX is 1 out 5. The Newspapers are thousands. So FOX is 1 out of thousands of voices if not millions. Add to that News magazines.

No that does not equate with mainstream. It's an outlier. Add into that social media which has been predominately leftist and you have even more.

They own a large percentage of local affiliate stations (Fox, ABC, CBS, NBC, CW, etc). There's a decent chance that at least one of those news channels you see is owned by Sinclair. See their station map here: TV Stations at Sinclair Broadcast Group

Their hq is across the street from a dump. I like to think of them as being merely the western annex of the landfill.

 

[Arcangl86]

Never hear of Sinclair Broadcasting news. Never got it on cable or satellite. When scrolling through all the news channels or news broadcast I get CNN, FOX, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC.

FOX is 1 out 5. The Newspapers are thousands. So FOX is 1 out of thousands of voices if not millions. Add to that News magazines.

No that does not equate with mainstream. It's an outlier. Add into that social media which has been predominately leftist and you have even more.

Ok I'm done. It's obvious nothing can convince you that Fox is not in the mainstream regardless of viewership numbers or how many other people and entities share the same views.

 

[iluvatar5150]

Ok I'm done. It's obvious nothing can convince you that Fox is not in the mainstream regardless of viewership numbers or how many other people and entities share the same views.

lol... Do you understand how ridiculous that sounds? You're basically arguing that it's impossible for them to go mainstream. This strikes me as being not dissimilar from the misnomer that is "alternative rock" that is (or was) wildly popular.

 

[Hans Blaster]

lol... Do you understand how ridiculous that sounds? You're basically arguing that it's impossible for them to go mainstream. This strikes me as being not dissimilar from the misnomer that is "alternative rock" that is (or was) wildly popular.

The idea that Fox News Channel (FNC) was not born as mainstream media seems rather ridiculous, frankly. FNC was started by a major media conglomerate using the same branding (Fox) as the TV network it had started less than a decade earlier. (NBC launched as a joint venture with MSN [MS network, a division of the largest tech company] "MSNBC" at about the same time.)

While the Fox TV network stations didn't largely have local news operations at the start, the launching of FNC corresponded to the networks strong encouragement to do so with FNC serving like the national news broadcast. (A kind of blend between CNN and the ABC/CBS/NBC evening news shows and national correspondents.)

 

[Aldebaran]

Post #529 covers much of the details of Chansley's interactions with a particular officer that appears in those videos.

I looked at a bodycam video that caught Chansley going up the stairs after his 30 minute stand-off with officers in the corridor.
A few things that were evident from the video:

1. Cops outnumbered rioters in the Senate wing during that period.
2. In the early part of the video (during Chansley's stand-off) there was only a few concentrations of rioters in the Senate wing on the chamber levels (2&3): one in the hallway near the old Senate chamber and the other in the Senate chamber.
3. There were a *lot* of rioters on the 1st (ground) floor, but they were contained by the stairwells.
4. Other than protecting select sensitive points, the cops were letting the randos wander about if they weren't doing anything additional wrong. (Until they could clear things out.)

The officer with the bodycam went to the Rotunda to clear it while Chansley was in the Senate Chamber and other officers cleared the Senate Chamber.

Now your creative use of the word "standoff" has just shot down the credibility of the narrative you're attempting to support.

 

[Aldebaran]

“We the people” have never overrun our legislative branch during business hours to change the outcome of an election before, it was “new territory” for everyone.

We are all "we the people", whether or not you agree with some of them.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Now your creative use of the word "standoff" has just shot down the credibility of the narrative you're attempting to support.

I already quoted this in post #538 (and similar things earlier), but here goes again:

"faced off with members of the U.S. Capitol Police for more than thirty minutes in front of the Senate Chamber doors while elected officials, including the Vice President of the United States, were fleeing from the chamber. "

They say "faced off", I said "stand off". Either way you describe it, Chansley spent half an hour face-to-face with police arguing and refusing to leave. (Would you prefer "armed stand off" as both the police and Chansley were armed?)


And just for good measure afterward (to demonstrate what an unruly punk he was):

"Chansley then entered the Senate Gallery, where he proceeded to scream obscenities while other rioters rifled through the desks of U.S. Senators on the floor below."

 

[Aldebaran]

I already quoted this in post #538 (and similar things earlier), but here goes again:

"faced off with members of the U.S. Capitol Police for more than thirty minutes in front of the Senate Chamber doors while elected officials, including the Vice President of the United States, were fleeing from the chamber. "

They say "faced off", I said "stand off". Either way you describe it, Chansley spent half an hour face-to-face with police arguing and refusing to leave. (Would you prefer "armed stand off" as both the police and Chansley were armed?)


And just for good measure afterward (to demonstrate what an unruly punk he was):

"Chansley then entered the Senate Gallery, where he proceeded to scream obscenities while other rioters rifled through the desks of U.S. Senators on the floor below."

And where's the video of Chansley doing any of the things he's accused of?

 

[Hans Blaster]

And where's the video of Chansley doing any of the things he's accused of?

Which things? Obstructing Congress (the thing he plead guilty to), or the "stand off"?

 

[Aldebaran]

Which things? Obstructing Congress (the thing he plead guilty to), or the "stand off"?

Being violent.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Being violent.

There is footage of him participating in the rush against the last few lines of defense prior to the breach. You could go track those down (I have other things to do). He was not charged with assault and I don't know of any assaultive behavior on his part.

Here's a little footage of the stand off. You'll have to turn the sound way up.

Mw5jpxt2C4Jz8Z3uY : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

If you want to hear him shouting obscenities from the Senate gallery, you'll have to track down the link in the "timeline" posted earlier. (It is footage from "The New Yorker" if you want to try YouTube directly.

 

[Aldebaran]

There is footage of him participating in the rush against the last few lines of defense prior to the breach. You could go track those down (I have other things to do). He was not charged with assault and I don't know of any assaultive behavior on his part.

Here's a little footage of the stand off. You'll have to turn the sound way up.

Mw5jpxt2C4Jz8Z3uY : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

If you want to hear him shouting obscenities from the Senate gallery, you'll have to track down the link in the "timeline" posted earlier. (It is footage from "The New Yorker" if you want to try YouTube directly.

Ok, so nothing but exercising his right to free speech. Good to know.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Ok, so nothing but exercising his right to free speech. Good to know.

You can tell that from the video?

(What I can tell is that it is a place non-badged personel are rarely allowed without escorts. The wall on the far side is the back of the Senate Chamber.)

 

[DaisyDay]

Actually you proved his point. We have only been shown the video the democrats wanted us to see.

Do you think the Select Committee, which did include two Republicans of integrity, should have shown all 44,000 hours of video? Or just the relevant parts which were about the insurrection?

You have only been shown the violent group. You were never shown the peaceful group. This is how we get manipulated. Show us the whole truth.

You can't handle the truth.

We have been lied to alright. How o. Earth can you claim Carlson is lying when he is showing us all of it. You would have a claim if he only showed the peaceful stuff and said the demonstration was only peaceful and never showed the others being violent. But HE DIDNT DO THAT.

No, he pretty much did show only 4 mins of an hour long encounter. He did not show the shaman shouting out obscenities on the Senate floor or the threatening note he left Pence, who was forced to flee the scene.

That's what the Democrats did. THEY are the LIARS.

Your claim it that they lied by omission? By not showing the lulls in the violence somehow the violence didn't occur?

Show is the truth and let us make our own decisions. This was no insurrection as we have been sold. It's a lie. There were violent people there. That broke and damaged property. There were some that rioted. That's a fact. But there were also thousands more that entered the capitol and walked around peacefully, staying in the ropes. Some even picked stuff up and put it away like that tripod. They were packing guns around. They weren't running through the halls like maniacs.

Okay, those thousands of people were not charged with anything. The hundreds who did riot and who did, temporarily, stop the proceedings were charged with felonies. The ones who planned and organized the coup should be charged with seditious insurrection.

Why that shaman was escorted around by the police who even opened doors for him. He even prayed for them.

He also carried a spear, screamed obscenities and left a threatening note for Mike Pence, whom his fellow mobsters wanted to hang.

It seems like you only want to tell one part of the story. Not all of it. That is very concerning.

When investigating a crime, usually the evidence of the crime being committed is presented, not all the downtime when little happened. Mote, beam, rjs330.

I wonder what you and all the other leftists would say if all you were shown was the peaceful side of things and the videos of the violent people were left out. And the media and Republicans all said it was a peaceful protest in the capitolThen later a CNN talking head came out with the video of the mobs who were yelling and breaking things. You would be accusing the Republicans and media of lying to you about what happened.

This is pure projection.

Yes, you have been lied to. And now the truth is out. It wasn't a real insurrection and most of the people there were orderly and calm. They were running around smashing things breaking into rooms carrying weapons and trying to burn the place down.

It was a real insurrection attempt.

We've all been manipulated. And it's good to see the truth come out.

Now everyone who committed unlawful acts including going into the capitol when it was closed and no one was supposed to be in there should be charged with trespassing. I don't care if you were peaceful or not. You should have obeyed the law and not entered. Pay for the consequences of your actions. That's what a society based on the rule of law should be.

That shaman as nice as he was should be charged with trespassing. I can go with that.

He wasn't "nice" - he was instigating the crowd shouting on the bullhorn and screaming obscenities. Carlson didn't show that part, but it is captured on video that he decided not to show.

But that's it. The rule of law should be equitable and fair. A few days in jail and a fine. That's all they deserve.

Those that were actually rioting and smashing windows out side, spraying cops and pushing barricades into them should be charged with rioting and assault on police officers and vandalism. They should have the book thrown at them. We as a society cannot and must not tolerate that behavior.

Do you remember the testimony that this disruption was done in order to buy more time for the false electors to be admitted and for the real ones to be dismissed by the VP? Pence did not go along with it, but they tried.

But unfortunately we have and it started with the BLM riots. I wish they would put as much effort and money and investigation into who committed those acts as we have into this. Because they were way worse.

You know that the so-called BLM riots were mainly between Antifa and groups like the Proud Boys? There were riots, but the rioters were not trying to overthrow the government. The Jan6 folks were trying to prevent the official electors' vote for Biden. That was it.

 

[Isilwen]

You didn't clarify you just repeated the same thing.

Because there was nothing else to add. They were called tourists.

 

[JacksBratt]

I don't set the sentences. But the 4 years he got seemed suitable for the overall seriousness of the event. Put it this way, I was neither surprised or dissapointed. And bear in mind that one of the reasons we punish people is to act as a deterrent. I don't think that anyone today thinks they could do something similar and just get a slap on the wrist.

The guy seems genuinely contrite and I'd like to think he'd get out early on good behaviour.

Well, I didn't see him do one act of violence or vandalism. He even gave a prayer to the police and their protection. In one video he gave a speach to the crowd about being peaceful and respectful of the police.

If anything, he maybe needed counciling..