Why did McCarthy Give Tucker Carlson Exclusive Access to J6 Footage?

[Aldebaran]

This would have succeeded had it taken place in 2004 as Kerry and the Democrats stormed into congress to overturn an election because they was robbed! And the phones of 2004 weren’t “historical documents makers”: the January 6th crowd were slowed down by the need to “take a picture/video for ‘history!’”, if they would have arrived en mass! ? This would have worked.

Not sure what your point is here.
Can you at least point out what people in the video we're doing that supposedly was overthrowing democracy? Was it that they used their phones to take pictures while they were touring the capital?

 

[Aldebaran]

Against chemical irritants?
Huh.

From that video, you can't even tell what type of mask that is, not that it really matters. You're simply trying to distract from the fact that the people in the video were peaceful and orderly, just like any tourist.
But at least it is obvious why certain people didn't want videos like this to be seen by the public. It doesn't support the narrative of people who hate Trump and those who supported him in the election. It also casts doubt on the claims made by them.

 

[Pommer]

From that video, you can't even tell what type of mask that is, not that it really matters. You're simply trying to distract from the fact that the people in the video were peaceful and orderly, just like any tourist.
But at least it is obvious why certain people didn't want videos like this to be seen by the public. It doesn't support the narrative of people who hate Trump and those who supported him in the election. It also casts doubt on the claims made by them.

It must be great when the video evidence for one part of your narrative isn’t “good enough” to refute another aspect of your evidence. But I understand and appreciate your jest, well done.

 

[Pommer]

Not sure what your point is here.
Can you at least point out what people in the video we're doing that supposedly was overthrowing democracy? Was it that they used their phones to take pictures while they were touring the capital?

The Capitol was closed to the Public that day, seeings as there was the 2020 Presidential Election to formally end, and the Government openly declare to the world who would be the person to take the Oath of the Office of President of the United States of America on January 20, 2021.

It’d never been that much of a “big deal” before, now it is.
What changed?

 

[USincognito]

Takes a lot of faith to see those videos and construct an "insurrection" there.
People will believe what they want to believe. Nothing you can do about it.
More faith that I can drum up.
But Christianity is a faith that believes in what we cannot see.
This is a flat earth religion... people denying what is obvious.
That weren't no insurrection. It was a protest which, in some cases, got out of hand.
But nothing like those BLM and ANTIFA protests where whole neighborhoods got burned down.
You know the "Mostly peaceful..." protests!
Like the song says..
"you only see what you want to."
But still. The answer to the OP is that they were given to Fox because they were the only ones who would show the videos that were hidden by the Jan 6 witch hunts.
My last word on this.

This litany of mischaracterization, omission, red herings and Conservisphere tropes exemplifies just how far gone too many of our fellow Americans have become.

Claim: These 45 seconds of video proves there was no insurrection.

Some of the rioters walking through statuary hall or Chansley being shadowed as he wandered around the Senate side doesn't make the thousands of hours of video where insurrectionists were engaged in Medieval combat with police, where some went hunting for particular Congress members, where some claimed Donald invited them there, etc.

Claim: it was a peaceful protest that got out of hand.

These are photos of Eric Munchel, aka Zip Tie Guy, in the Senate chamber at the same time Chansley was in there and a "stack" of Oath keepers, two of whom were convicted of seditious conspiracy walking up the Capitol steps in full combat gear.

They weren't peaceful, nor did they get out of hand. That gaslighting isn't going to work. They came for war.

Claim: nothing on J6 was like Antifa/BLM riots.

I can do a whole separate post on why the "Antifa/BLM riots" trope is another invention of the Conservisphere, so let's see if there is any evidence of red hats attacking officers with sticks, flag poles, bats, bear spray, etc.

Why yes there is.

When I use the phrase Medieval combat, I mean it.

 

[USincognito]

"The Science" told people to wear masks.

Hey man, I get it. Your video evidence that they were peaceful tourists there to see Statuary Hall and politely petition their government for redress was debunked by one of them clearly wearing a police/military grade gas mask. You were embarrassed and decided to try and own the libs with an insipid Covid reference.

It failed.

 

[USincognito]

I asked him that. Am I not allowed to question the person who mentioned those items as if he didn't like them for some reason?

Hans is more than capable of defending himself, but he said NOTHING about "not liking" said items. He was giving a list of items they carried which CLEARLY indicated they were not tourists as said items are unauthorized to be carried by tourists.

Glad I could clear that up for you.

I also notice that you failed to describe what any of the people in the video were doing that supposedly overthrew democracy.

The "I demand you defend this thing you didn't state" is the lamest shtick employed by dishonest interlocutors. That said, the insurrectionists in that video are walking into the atrium of the main entrance to the Senate chamber. Their very presence, and the need for the Senate to evacuate was an attempt to overthrow democracy by preventing the certification vote and the peaceful transfer of power.

 

[USincognito]

From that video, you can't even tell what type of mask that is,

Making this assertion is, at the very least, being disingenuous. I had the luxury of watching it full screen on a 28 inch monitor, but that screen cap clearly shows him wearing a gas mask even on a cell phone. The straps over his head are a dead giveaway.

But at least it is obvious why certain people didn't want videos like this to be seen by the public.

What in the world are you talking about? That video was broadcast live and has 401,000+ views over the last two years.

 

[Hans Blaster]

I asked him that. Am I not allowed to question the person who mentioned those items as if he didn't like them for some reason?

I also notice that you failed to describe what any of the people in the video were doing that supposedly overthrew democracy.

I quoted the law to you. They were parading or demonstrating a clear violation of the law. Hundreds have been so convicted. ( I would point out individuals in that video and their charges, but I didn't recognize any of them.)

 

[BPPLEE]

I don't "love" AOC or know anything about her father. (Thanks for catching the 2001.)

Hahahaha you know I was talking about Liz

 

[BPPLEE]

I'm perfectly aware of the difference and your non sequitur is a straw man. I would ask if you're not even going to bother to address the points I raise, then please don't bother responding at all.

Wow. Two fallacies in one sentence. Glad to comply with your request.

 

[SimplyMe]

I like Bill Maher's re-edit of a small portion of Tucker's show:

 

[Isilwen]

I like Bill Maher's re-edit of a small portion of Tucker's show:

Carlson can cherry-pick whatever footage he wants, there is more footage showing that he is absolutely wrong.

 

[BPPLEE]

Arguing to argue is fun and all and it’s certainly been entertaining (after a fashion) but doesn’t it get old?

This thread is the first I have responded to in months.

 

[BPPLEE]

Whenever you can show us text messages of host for programs on those networks admitting they didn't believe a word of the things their guests were sayin or the story they were weaving; or if there's one where Rachel Maddow says she hates President Biden passionately, all while supporting his narratives in air, then we can address your whataboutism.

Actually it was based on the fog of war, and "reporting based on facts at the time" isn't "narrative. I find this complaint quite ironic given that the entire Conservisphere, despite being REALLY WORRIED ABOUT ACCURACY spread the "Paul Pelosi was involved in a gay lovers spat" for weeks after the event and many still claim that's actually what happened.

Hey I get it. I wouldn't want to try and defend the fact that Tucker admits in private he doesn't believe things he says on air. I'd try and toss out red herrings too. The problem is both of those men, owned up to and faced consequences for what they did. Tucker was instead rewarded by McCarthy would solo, unfettered access to security secrets of our national Capitol.

@Bradskii probably didn’t need your help but it’s nice of you to butt in and help him out anyway.

 

[USincognito]

@Bradskii probably didn’t need your help but it’s nice of you to butt in and help him out anyway.

Until you reply with a substantive response to what I have written, instead of a snide comment about me personally, please don't tag me.

 

[BPPLEE]

Until you reply with a substantive response to what I have written, instead of a snide comment about me personally, please don't tag me.

Okay but I believe it was you that started this conversation.

 

[rjs330]

I never understood this talking point about Fox News. It is by far the most watched TV channel in the country with well over a million viewers daily. Yet they are never seen as being part of the mainstream media.

That's because they are the only one that is more right wing. Main stream media is where everyone else is. Which is leftist media that is far more prevalent. CBS, ABC, NBC, MSNBC, CNN etc etc al. And all the newspapers in the country and news magazines etc. That's all main stream and every single one of them is leftist.

So Fox shows up and doesn't fit within the parameters of everyone else. They are away from the main stream.

Do they have a large audience. I think so. But all this angst about Fox is ridiculous when compared to what everyone else is and has done on the left side.

 

[rjs330]

Nothing says "tourists" like a guy in a gas mask. View attachment 328951

You know no one said they were tourists. Stop spreading misinformation. They were behaving in an orderly fashion. They were throwing bricks and no one got gassed by them despite the dude in the mask. He probably wore cause he thought the cops might gas everyone. But you don't see him carrying a gun or busting anything. Most all of those that have been convicted were convicted of minor crimes. Some with felonies.

I seriously wish they would have put this much effort into finding and prosecuting all the BLM rioters.

These people were not insurrectionists. They were trespassers. You can't overthrow the government with flags and backpacks. You need weapons and serious coordination. And there was none of that.

 

[Isilwen]

You know no one said they were tourists.

"Watching the TV footage of those who entered the Capitol and walked through Statuary Hall showed people in an orderly fashion staying between the stanchions and ropes, taking videos and pictures. You know, if you didn’t know the TV footage was a video from January the 6th, you would actually think it was a normal tourist visit.”

GOP Rep. Clyde defends ‘normal tourist visit’ comparison for Jan. 6

GOP Rep. Andrew Clyde (Ga.) defended his description of rioters walking through the Capitol on Jan. 6 appearing to look like a “normal tourist visit” during a committee meeting on Tuesday…

thehill.com

What do you think he is calling them?