Why did McCarthy Give Tucker Carlson Exclusive Access to J6 Footage?

[ralliann]

Yes. Other video bits of people just milling around dont negate the violence and criminality we did see. Those were real and sufficient for the narrative that Im aware of, unless theres some claim that everyone was violent - but I havent heard that.

There were claims this guy was dangerous

 

[Bradskii]

Really? Where can I find the video of his violence. Too dangerous to be released?

He wasn't charged with being violent! Because he wasn't BEING violent. So there IS no footage of him being violent. Why on EARTH are you asking for something that nobody has even suggested exists?

 

[ralliann]

You said he was denied. You must know what it was otherwise you wouldn't have said it. So tell us all, and show your evidence, that he requested something and was denied it.

You see, this forum is not a court of law. It is all accusation at this point. Too much trying things on internet, social media and the media. Let's wait and see what comes of it.

 

[BPPLEE]

Yes. Other video bits of people just milling around dont negate the violence and criminality we did see. Those were real and sufficient for the narrative that Im aware of, unless theres some claim that everyone was violent - but I havent heard that.

Yes. Other video bits of people just milling around dont negate the violence and criminality we did see. Those were real and sufficient for the narrative that Im aware of, unless theres some claim that everyone was violent - but I havent heard that.

Carlson acknowledged the violence and condemned it. People are being prosecuted for those crimes as they should be. But that’s not the whole story

 

[ralliann]

He wasn't charged with being violent! Because he wasn't BEING violent. So there IS no footage of him being violent. Why on EARTH are you asking for something that nobody has even suggested exists?

He asked about the narrative, not the charge Geesh. Why does more information ruffle your feathers so much?

 

[Bradskii]

There were claims this guy was dangerous

Potentially dangerous. He was carrying a spear for heaven's sake. Which did not go down well with his judge:

'The judge had previously rejected Chansley’s claims that the six-foot flagpole he carried during he riot wasn’t a weapon and that the metal spear tip was an ornament, saying the sharpened six-inch point could have been used to stab people from a distance.'

 

[Bradskii]

He asked about the narrative, not the charge Geesh. Why does more information ruffle your feathers so much?

You asked about the video of him committing violence. There was none. There is none. He wasn't violent. He wasn't accused of being violent. He wasn't charged with violence. He is incarcerated now on charges that have nothing to do with him committing violence.

 

[Bradskii]

I don’t think anyone is saying he didn’t do anything wrong. What is being pointed out is that news coverage about him for the last two years has been grossly inaccurate

Feel free to post some if you like. We can discuss whether a particular article was grossly inaccurate or not. Again, I don't mind waiting here while you find one. But I know you're busy looking for that video where Clinton actually says that the Russians stole the election, so I appreciate that it might take some time.

 

[durangodawood]

Really? Where can I find the video of his violence. Too dangerous to be released?

Tuckers violence? What in the world are you even talking about?

 

[Bradskii]

It’s amazing what people will plead guilty to when the deck is stacked against them and they are looking at less time for taking a plea. I didn’t comment on his guilt or innocence just that the video that’s been released doesn’t match the narrative we’ve been fed for the last two years

Do you think that a video showing him having a short break and joking with some guys and maybe having a smoking break, taking a selfie for the kids and strolling around will prompt the judge to say 'Hey, this a genuinely nice guy. Look at him. This footage shows he's just an average Joe chatting with some friends. Dismiss all charges!'

The naivity in this thread is simply astonishing.

 

[Bradskii]

There is no way to measure how much influence propaganda efforts had on the 2016 election no more than I could prove how much burying the Hunter Biden laptop story helped Biden. And I said Hillary said the election was stolen. She didn’t elaborate on who stole it

You specifically claimed that Clinton said that the election was stolen in response to me saying that no-one had said 'the Russians stole the election.'

Me: Nobody said Russia stole it.
You: Hillary said it was stolen.

The implication was clear. You might want to aim for some clarity in your posts. If I say nobody said it was stolen and you say 'I've got a video of Hillary saying it was stolen' then you are implying something that wasn't related to what I said.

 

[durangodawood]

He asked about the narrative, not the charge Geesh. Why does more information ruffle your feathers so much?

The narrative doenst hinge on what one particular guy was doing. Its about the nature of the event as a whole. Ive seen loads of violence at that event, but I dont know anyones individual name.

 

[durangodawood]

Carlson acknowledged the violence and condemned it. People are being prosecuted for those crimes as they should be. But that’s not the whole story

So? Who cares if some people just went in to look around? Its neither here nor there.

 

[Bradskii]

You see, this forum is not a court of law. It is all accusation at this point. Too much trying things on internet, social media and the media. Let's wait and see what comes of it.

Then please stop claiming things that aren't true. If you say he was denied something and you have no evidence whatsoever, then you shouldn't say it. It's you that are making the accusations and then backpeddling at some speed when called on to provide some facts.

 

[Ana the Ist]

So now we know conclusively that no police officers were murdered by the mob (the one supposedly beaten with a fire extinguisher can be seen walking around guiding people after his supposed murder, which causes wonder why NYT and CNN got that story so wrong) how can we possibly describe this as a violent insurrection if they killed no one?

 

[Ana the Ist]

Yep, it's been going on for years. One of the guys that has been sitting in jail, his attorney was on Carlson tonight. They requsted the footage which Carlson showed. It was denied him for trial. His rights were violated if that's the case. this is serious stuff which everyone should care about.
Facebook is still at it. the clips were posted, and facebook banned it. The footage showed no violence, he was being escorted around by the police. Nothing at all like we all were told.

You talking about the QAnon "shaman" yeah I saw that. Basically got a guided tour. They opened doors for him.

 

[BPPLEE]

No. You did not. You specifically claimed that Clinton said that 'the Russians stole the election.'

No I said Democrats. Hillary Clinton AND all the Democrats who say the Russians stole the election is what I said. With this new format I can’t seem to go back to the previous page and copy and paste it. But you are getting into semantics

You specifically claimed that Clinton said that the election was stolen in response to me saying that no-one had said 'the Russians stole the election.'

Me: Nobody said Russia stole it.
You: Hillary said it was stolen.

The implication was clear. You might want to aim for some clarity in your posts. If I say nobody said it was stolen and you say 'I've got a video of Hillary saying it was stolen' then you are implying something that wasn't related to what I said.

@Bradskii said “f I say nobody said it was stolen and you say 'I've got a video of Hillary saying it was stolen' then you are implying something that wasn't related to what I said.” ???

 

[Valletta]

Again, yet again...if you think his attorney requested something and was denied, put it forward.

Brady actually involves whether the government withheld evidence. Now in Jacob's case, as has been mentioned, he has done most of his sentence, and so this is a miscarriage of justice that in practicality cannot be reversed. In the United States the defense attorney does not have to be aware of the withheld evidence or ask for it. Let's say a guy is being charged for murder, multiple witnesses say that they were at the location and they only saw the defendant enter and leave during the building where the body was found during the coroners stated time of death. The defendant can plead guilty and take a seven year sentence, or take a chance which on average will get him twenty to life. If the government has a recording they keep secret that shows someone else was there at the time of the murder, that is the withholding of exculpatory evidence. It is a violation and a miscarriage of justice whether or not the defendant took a guilty plea.

 

[Ana the Ist]

In conclusion to the OP....I think we can safely say that the reason why they didn't want this footage released was because they lied to the public....and carefully crafted a narrative many were dumb enough to believe.

 

[Bradskii]

No I said Democrats. Hillary Clinton AND all the Democrats who say the Russians stole the election is what I said.

Then post some evidence of Clinton saying it.