Teen's Interaction With Transgender Woman in YMCA Locker Room Sparks Heated Debate

[Neogaia777]

There should be third restrooms, everywhere, first of all, wherever they are not a single restroom that locks maybe, because that might be an exception, etc...

And whatever parts they have, breasts, penis, [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse], etc, if anyone in an opposite restroom gets to see those parts naked, and it's not because someone is being set-up or whatever, etc, then the law should be the law, with very few exceptions, etc, and in the case of those having both parts, or that are in the process of a change, etc, if there is a risk of others seeing those parts naked, and again, it's not because they are being set-up, or is not being done on purpose, etc, then they should use the third restroom, regardless, otherwise they need to know that legally, they could be possibly taking a risk, etc.

And there can't be any kind of persecution, of anyone, because of any of this, etc, otherwise the one doing the persecuting, might need to face some legal consequences, etc.

This is probably one of the only ways we are all going to be able to get along on these issues, as the rights of all need to be respected, etc...

A parent might have to explain to their children that what looks like a man entering their restroom is actually a woman biologically, and vice-versa, but that is something where they will just have to make a concession, and just have to deal with, etc.

God Bless!

Wait, I can use the word penis, but not the other word for the other woman part...?

I think this is very serious discrimination based on gender, and I think I'm going to go to the highest court in the land to resolve this all important issue right away, lol...

(I am joking, why I added the "lol", etc)...

(I'm not that sort, etc)...

God Bless!

 

[Diamond72]

Have three facilities.
Girls, Boys, Trans.
Problem solved.

Why? It is the women that does not want them. They are welcome in the men's dressing rooms. Only one in 500 is both male and female. Everyone else is one or the other.

 

[Neogaia777]

I’m curious, what tripped the “obscenity filter”?

See my post just now, etc, lol...

God Bless!

 

[Pommer]

Wait, I can use the word penis, but not the other word for the other woman part...?

I think this is very serious discrimination based on gender, and I think I'm going to go to the highest court in the land to resolve this all important issue right away, lol...

(I am joking, why I added the "lol", etc)...

(I'm not that sort, etc)...

God Bless!

Try “vulva” which is the actual word that you’re going for, the other one is the “inside” part.

 

[Neogaia777]

Try “vulva” which is the actual word that you’re going for, the other one is the “inside” part.

Well, they are most usually talked about opposingly, so I might just leave it, I'm not sure yet, etc...?

My post shortly thereafter should explain it, etc...

God Bless!

 

[Neogaia777]

Why? It is the women that does not want them. They are welcome in the men's dressing rooms. Only one in 500 is both male and female. Everyone else is one or the other.

Yeah, but you have to consider maybe the very young, very impressionable boys maybe, etc...?

Unless you're the kind of father who thinks they might be ready for that kind of thing maybe, etc, lol...

Or considers it some kind of rite of passage at a certain age, etc, lol...

God Bless!

 

[Diamond72]

This is not a question Ambiguous genitalia. This is an issue of male genitalia being exposed in a female locker room. I do not blame her at all. I do not like looking at exposed men either. Most people don't. I was in the army and people usually take a shower when no one else is in there. Although people are a lot more public in Asia and Europe than we are here in America where we enjoy a bit of privacy.

 

[Diamond72]

Yeah, but you have to consider maybe the very young, very impressionable boys maybe, etc...?

I am 70 so it is difficult to remember. But I suppose if you're talking about grade school boys, they may get a bit nuts about female parts in a male locker room. In Asia and Europe often there is no privacy. They have to change their clothing and even bathe themselves under a rope or loose cover they wear. If she had not exposed herself, no one would have ever known.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

This is not a question Ambiguous genitalia. This is an issue of male genitalia being exposed in a female locker room.

Except for the fact that Ms. Wood does not have a penis anymore, having completed gender reassignment surgery several years ago. See post #3 in the thread. No male genitalia were exposed in the women's locker room.

 

[RileyG]

no, she isn't. Denying reality won't change that.

This thread suggests that those with prejudices lie and support those who tell lies about transgendered individuals.


Do you support blatant lies the 17 year old girl in the OP told?



what exactly is being shoved down your throat?

What reality? He's still a man. His feelings don't change reality. What lies? He had no business being in the same restroom as women. period.

 

[RileyG]

Even then, if you have a place with only two restrooms/changing rooms, and someone has some parts that are associated with both, we're still left with the same quandary.

For instance, Blaire White
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Blaire has "parts" that are associated with both genders. Either some girls are seeing a penis, or some boys are seeing breasts...in both scenarios, the absolutists on the "against" side are going to have a problem with it.

On the flip side, the absolutists on the "for" side who act appalled that someone would be put off by someone with chest hair and a 5 o'clock shadow in the Women's room, isn't a reasonable position either. We have multiple generations of women and girls who were raised in an environment where it's abnormal to see someone who looks like a dude in their changing facility, and it's not reasonable to expect them to be "cool with it, effective immediately" just because some social activists want to advance, what they see as social progress, at a rate much faster than it's organic pace.

Blaire White is a man. Just because he had surgery and changed his appearance didn't change biology.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

Except for the fact that Ms. Wood does not have a penis anymore, having completed gender reassignment surgery several years ago. See post #3 in the thread. No male genitalia were exposed in the women's locker room.

But do we really know that? Perhaps the removed appendage was preserved in a jar of formaldehyde and carried around just for situations like this.


Yes, I know I'm going to hell.

 

[Hank77]

I assume because it would make them feel uncomfortable to be undressed around people who they perceive to be the opposite gender based on the downstairs parts... ironically, the very same aversion/discomfort that everyone else gets chastised and called a bigot for when they object to it in the other direction.

"ironically, the very same aversion/discomfort that everyone else gets chastised and called a bigot for when they object to it in the other direction."
That's how I see it.

Also, they would just be in the company of people of the same gender they used to be. Modesty would be a ridiculous excuse for them.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

Blaire White is a man. Just because he had surgery and changed his appearance didn't change biology.

So do you want Blaire White in the changing room with girls or boys?

And since men are allowed to go topless at the pool, I assume you'd be cool with Blaire walking around at the public pool with just bikini bottoms then?

Or would that create some discomfort?

 

[variant]

I assume because it would make them feel uncomfortable to be undressed around people who they perceive to be the opposite gender based on the downstairs parts... ironically, the very same aversion/discomfort that everyone else gets chastised and called a bigot for when they object to it in the other direction.

Who do you suppose is qualified to police gender segregated areas based upon peoples perceptions and discomfort?

This is a story about someone causing a scene and lying because of their personal ideological discomfort with a transgender woman.

Yes it makes them a bigot, because what makes us what we are is our actions. Hopefully she will learn.

 

[rjs330]

Just because you, yourself, are locked into a world where there are “men” “women” and “everything else” it does not follow that everyone is also locked into this “reality”.

I know right? There are people with all kinds of delusions and their reality is totally different than ummm... Well reality.

 

[rjs330]

Even then, if you have a place with only two restrooms/changing rooms, and someone has some parts that are associated with both, we're still left with the same quandary.

For instance, Blaire White
View attachment 327204

Blaire has "parts" that are associated with both genders. Either some girls are seeing a penis, or some boys are seeing breasts...in both scenarios, the absolutists on the "against" side are going to have a problem with it.

On the flip side, the absolutists on the "for" side who act appalled that someone would be put off by someone with chest hair and a 5 o'clock shadow in the Women's room, isn't a reasonable position either. We have multiple generations of women and girls who were raised in an environment where it's abnormal to see someone who looks like a dude in their changing facility, and it's not reasonable to expect them to be "cool with it, effective immediately" just because some social activists want to advance, what they see as social progress, at a rate much faster than it's organic pace.

Blair White shouldn't be undressing in front of either sex. As far as a bathroom is concerned I'd be fine with Blair using the female bathroom cause they have stalls and you'd never know.

 

[rjs330]

Just wondering, if this person doesn't have a penis, how'd the girl know he was a man?

 

[variant]

Just wondering, if this person doesn't have a penis, how'd the girl know he was a man?

These aren't the sorts of things that are well kept secrets.

 

[SilverBear]

Just wondering, if this person doesn't have a penis, how'd the girl know he was a man?

Most likely because she was identified as a tansgendered person and that made her a target for the girls attacks.