Modern day systemic racism, does it exist?

[rjs330]

Yes. Few of their intended audience have computers, most just have phones, and they don't do webinars. This isn't my daughter's guess, there is data on it, and that's her business.

It's maddening and confusing. These people have low cost, even free, medical care being made available, but getting them to take advantage of it is incredibly difficult. That's the problem my daughter has been hired to solve, but even the people who have hired her can't understand it...they just see that they can't make it work.

Well a lot of the younger generation has the attention span of a gnat even if they have a computer.

But I see the point. Why would you assume they have a computer or access to one. Although a lot of webinars can be done in your phone too. You don't need a computer.

 

[Ana the Ist]

It always has been a factor. I never said systemic racism is insurmountable, I said it affects people.

So when you use it as an explanation...what you really mean is it's just one of many many factors?

The unequal outcomes show it's unfair.

Well that depends on what you think is "fair".

It's a CYA move, nothing more.

Exactly, they don't want anyone coming along and using it as evidence of discrimination....because it's not. If it were, they wouldn't write that part.

 

[Ken-1122]

Yes. Few of their intended audience have computers, most just have phones, and they don't do webinars. This isn't my daughter's guess, there is data on it, and that's her business.

It's maddening and confusing. These people have low cost, even free, medical care being made available, but getting them to take advantage of it is incredibly difficult. That's the problem my daughter has been hired to solve, but even the people who have hired her can't understand it...they just see that they can't make it work.

Perhaps if they were the type to take advantage of such services, they would not be in the financially poor situation they are in right now.

 

[RDKirk]

Perhaps if they were the type to take advantage of such services, they would not be in the financially poor situation they are in right now.

If it were easy, my daughter wouldn't have the job.

 

[rjs330]

Perhaps if they were the type to take advantage of such services, they would not be in the financially poor situation they are in right now.

That's a really good point. Too many people just want things handed to them without any effort in their part. If it takes affoet they're not interested.

A very good indication as to a strong reason they are in spot they are in. They are irresponsible and entitled.

Wonder how they would do in a place like Norway, Denmark and Sweden where it's all provided by the government. Except in Norway you have to pay $200 a year. I wonder how they would handle that. It's quite cheap.

 

[rturner76]

Well since your convinced how many did apply and how many didn't get the job cause the interviewers were racist? Where's your evidence?

Please quote them where they say they were going to show how racist the system is.

The numbers do the talking

 

[rjs330]

The numbers do the talking

Unfortunately for you they don't.

 

[rturner76]

Unfortunately for you they don't.

They are talking loud but maybe you don't understand the language because you have blinders on.

 

[rjs330]

They are talking loud but maybe you don't understand the language because you have blinders on.

Sorry numbers don't say anything without context and evidence of your claim. If you want to claim the numbers say something specific you have to prove your claim. You haven't done that.

 

[Ana the Ist]

The numbers do the talking

It's a disparity. It's not evidence in of itself.

 

[Pommer]

Sorry numbers don't say anything without context and evidence of your claim. If you want to claim the numbers say something specific you have to prove your claim. You haven't done that.

Why do you need our friend to prove anything to you?
Are you happy with the way justice is meted out in our land?
Is having the largest prison population in the world the “land of the free” should be about?
“But they can’t prove it’s racist!”

Keep telling yourself that.

 

[RDKirk]

They are talking loud but maybe you don't understand the language because you have blinders on.

Mixed that metaphor, didn't you?

 

[Ana the Ist]

Why do you need our friend to prove anything to you?
Are you happy with the way justice is meted out in our land?

No...this bail reform nonsense and decriminalization of theft should stop.

Is having the largest prison population in the world the “land of the free” should be about?

Is it because we are unjust?

“But they can’t prove it’s racist!”

Keep telling yourself that.

They can't.

You ask for evidence of systemic racism....they point to a disparity.

You ask how they know it's caused by systemic racism....they point to the exact same disparity.


The evidence is the both the only identifier, and somehow the result of a hidden process, of a nonsense concept.

We can actually chart that out visually if you want.


Or you can picture the word systemic racism and just draw a circle from the word looping back to the word.


What we have here are people who don't really understand what a disparity is.

 

[rturner76]

Sorry numbers don't say anything without context and evidence of your claim. If you want to claim the numbers say something specific you have to prove your claim. You haven't done that.

They say white people got it better period

 

[rturner76]

It's a disparity. It's not evidence in of itself.

If it's across multiple categories, you can start to see a pattern.

25 simple charts to show friends and family who aren't convinced racism is still a problem in America

Research has extensively documented the differences between the Black and white experience in the US, from wealth and education to incarceration.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[RDKirk]

They say white people got it better period

You can't make that statement with a "period" behind it if there are any black people doing better than any white people.

You have to qualify that statement in some way.

 

[rturner76]

You can't make that statement with a "period" behind it if there are any black people doing better than any white people.

You have to qualify that statement in some way.

I thought that posting an article about 25 ways white people have it better in this country was qualifying what I stated.

 

[Ana the Ist]

If it's across multiple categories, you can start to see a pattern.

25 simple charts to show friends and family who aren't convinced racism is still a problem in America

Research has extensively documented the differences between the Black and white experience in the US, from wealth and education to incarceration.

www.businessinsider.com

Disparities are the norm...equal outcomes are the oddity.

 

[Ana the Ist]

You can't make that statement with a "period" behind it if there are any black people doing better than any white people.

You have to qualify that statement in some way.

I don't think he realizes that when a study says something about average prison sentences...for assault for example....if black men average 3 months or whatever longer than white men....that there's still this large group of white men serving longer sentences than black men for those charges.

I think in his mind....every black man is serving more time than every white man.

 

[Ana the Ist]

If it's across multiple categories, you can start to see a pattern.

25 simple charts to show friends and family who aren't convinced racism is still a problem in America

Research has extensively documented the differences between the Black and white experience in the US, from wealth and education to incarceration.

www.businessinsider.com

Your third chart shows asians at a higher rate than whites.

Are they holding back both of us in your mind? Is this some weird conspiracy of white people to help out asians and keep down black people?

Because if the system was designed to favor white people, that chart makes no sense.