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The messiah is almost here

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That’s just current news , it’s happening now


Maria , Jesus message about Israel’s salvation takes place when they cry out blessed is he that comes in the name of the lord

They have not done so and most likely will not anytime soon

messianic Judaism is a start but if the Jews creates a messianic age what will become of them?

Will their faith be classified as an abomination too?



And abomination? The teachings of Jesus in matt24 of his return after the AOD and the AOD mentioned in Daniel is an abomination because many of you believe it was fulfilled ?

Can you clarify why you believe this type of eschatology is an abomination? what scripture are you referring to that makes it an abomination?

What’s the penalty for committing an abomination in scripture?



Which is now what? ..in your point of view?

Do the Jews have a special path for salvation?

What is the path to salvation?

Worship god through a temple is the jewish way and the study of Torah and obey the fathers of Torah is their faith

We Christian’s believe it’s through Jesus

Has that changed?



Are you saYing dispensational futurism is no longer allowed to be discussed on CF
Because it is now been judged an abomination by most of you ?

Are we no longer discussing eschatology?

Why? What is the real reason for your repentance? Are we switching sides with the Jews now?


No don’t be sorry if this is your conviction
And thank you for your concerns for me Blessings to you
I'm sorry I cant help you. You are entrenched in a system. When I was in your possition, about 6 years ago, I prayed for truth and I recieved. But only because it bothered me so much. So the Lord revealed.
 
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I'm sorry I cant help you. You are entrenched in a system. When I was in your possition, about 6 years ago, I prayed for truth and I recieved. But only because it bothered me so much. So the Lord revealed.
I have no idea what u mean if you choose not to explain yourself

Blessings may Jesus save us all
 
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If the messiah is almost here then the Messianic age is about to begin …

The Messiah came two thousand years ago, His name is Jesus. He was conceived by the power of the Holy Spirit, and born of the Virgin Mary, He suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, dead, and buried. On the third day He rose again, He ascended into heaven, where He sits at the right hand of the Father. He will come again to judge the living and the dead.

The Messianic age began two thousand years ago, we are living in it as His Spirit dwells within His Church and preaches His Gospel and kingdom. The Messiah sits on His Throne as King of kings and Lord of lords at the right hand of the Father. When He returns He returns to judge.

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The Messiah came two thousand years ago, His name is Jesus. He was conceived by the power of the Holy Spirit, and born of the Virgin Mary, He suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, dead, and buried. On the third day He rose again, He ascended into heaven, where He sits at the right hand of the Father. He will come again to judge the living and the dead.

The Messianic age began two thousand years ago, we are living in it as His Spirit dwells within His Church and preaches His Gospel and kingdom. The Messiah sits on His Throne as King of kings and Lord of lords at the right hand of the Father. When He returns He returns to judge.

-CryptoLutheran
I was referring to the Messianic age from a Jewish standpoint ..it is the Jews argument that Jesus did not fulfill messianic prophecies so they await another who will …many Old Testament prophecies are still unfulfilled

But yes jesus also comes to save Israel from the beast and false prophet and will sit on the throne of David for he is king of the Jews

He died for them as well and has purchased the land with his on blood

And he will reign for 1000 years this is known as the millennium
 
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He could become the false prophet or the high priest. I don't think he will become the Antichrist - false King of Israel, because the Jews are looking for a political figure with military ability - which I am looking at Zelensky for that reason instead. Plus, Zeklensky could become the little horn person leader over a group of ten EU leaders.

Zelensky was recently named NY Times Person of the Year. The end times personalities will not emerge in a vacuum when they rise to power. So like Zelensky, the Yanuka is getting a lot of exposure of the Jews clamoring over him, plus the Yanuka has been credited with doing, I think, five healing miracles. Plus, he has labeled with a special title - "the Yanuka".

It is particularly amazing that the two major figures are springing forth at the same time... if both or either is/are the guy(s).
 
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Just read your Bible if you want the answer to when judgment day will come. Could be before the new year, could be 100,000 years or more down the line. I just take it one day at a time. Hope for the best and plan for the worst. Repent and have faith and you don't have a care in the world about the day of judgment.
 
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Neither is "Shlomo Yehda". When you leave vowels in the first name but remove some of them in the second name, that is biasing your results as in this case. 323 is the gematria for "mabus" (Nostradamus 3rd antichrist). It is the same gematria as lucifer...MaBuS could stand for Mohamed Bin Solomon...MBS
But 323 has no biblical significance. If you want to say that leaving out the "u" isn't really a true representation of the person's name, I agree. I just thought it was an interesting occurrence.
 
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I was referring to the Messianic age from a Jewish standpoint ..it is the Jews argument that Jesus did not fulfill messianic prophecies so they await another who will …many Old Testament prophecies are still unfulfilled

Non-believing Jews have their own religion, Judaism. While I believe Christians can learn a lot from looking at ancient and historic Jewish ideas, especially as it pertains to the historical Jewish context of the New Testament. I see no reason to be concerned with trying to reconcile Judaism and Christianity. We are talking about two distinct religions that have been separated from one another for two thousand years.

As a Christian I believe that Jesus is the Messiah, the Christ. That's where our name comes from, we are believers in Jesus the Messiah. Non-Christian Jews don't believe that. And what non-Christian Jews have to say (or not say) about Jesus isn't relevant to me as a Christian.

Jesus fulfilled everything He came to fulfill. The promises of God made in the covenants and promises to Adam, Abraham, Moses, and David have all been fulfilled in Jesus the Messiah. Through the Messiah God has called the Nations to Mt. Zion, He has made of two people--Jews and Gentiles--a new people in the Messiah. Even as natural branches were pruned away from the olive tree, so has God grafted on wild branches. The whole tree, Jew and Gentile, are rooted in the Messiah as the people of God, namely the Church.

Non-Christian Jews look for the Messiah to come and rebuild the Temple, that is a false hope. There is already a Holy Temple, it is the Messiah and His Church, as He has said, "Tear down this temple and in three days I shall raise it back up again" and the Apostle says that the Church is the Temple of the Holy Spirit, and each of us as members of that one mystical Body of Christ--the Church--is a spiritual stone. So God's Temple already exists, and has for two thousand years. If anyone should build a structure upon the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, it will be a meaningless building without significance.

The Messiah already reigns, seated at the right hand of the Father. Even as was said by Daniel, the Son of Man was taken up before the Ancient of Days and given kingdom and everlasting dominion. What does Christ say at His Ascension? "All authority has been given to Me" and that those who heard His own words would see the Son of Man coming into His kingdom--taken up on clouds up into heaven, as the Gospel of Luke and the Acts of the Apostles bears witness.

When He returns, He returns to judge the living and the dead. For we read in the 15th chapter of St. Paul's first letter to the Corinthians that the Messiah must reign until every enemy is made subject to Him, the final enemy to be defeated being death, then He shall deliver all things over to the Father and God will be all in all. So the Messiah reigns, He reigns now through His Church, not like emperors and kings do, but as the Royal Suffering Servant, the Son of David, the Root of Jesse--He who says the kingdom of God is not likened to the kingdoms of this world and that His kingdom is not of this world has His kingdom from heaven from which He reigns and we are seated with Him in heavenly places. When He returns, He comes in Judgment, and the dead shall be raised, and then God will make all things new.

Those who look seek temples and sacrifices in the earthly Jerusalem look after false messiahs. Which Christ has warned about. But the Gospel is the very power of God to save all who believe, for both Jew and Gentile. So that all who call on His name shall be saved, and all who trust on Him shall not be put to shame. God who consigned all to disobedience has mercy on all, and is unwilling that any perish, but that all repent and live.
But yes jesus also comes to save Israel from the beast and false prophet and will sit on the throne of David for he is king of the Jews

He died for them as well and has purchased the land with his on blood

And he will reign for 1000 years this is known as the millennium

This is the false doctrine known as Dispensationalist Premillennialism. It is entirely foreign to Scripture and the ancient and apostolic faith of the Christian Church.

When Jesus returns, He returns as Judge. As we see time and again concerning His promised Parousia throughout the New Testament: He comes, the dead are raised, and those who remain at His coming shall join in the resurrection, "For I tell you a mystery" says St. Paul, "We shall not all die, but we shall all be changed." Which he mentions again in 1 Thessalonians 4:13-17, that at Christ's glorious coming the trumpet shall sound, the dead shall be raised, even those who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with the resurrected dead to meet the glorious returning Lord Jesus as He comes. And then God shall make all things new: new heavens and new earth.

I'd recommend avoiding trying to take St. John's Apocalypse too literally, otherwise we end up believing in literal human-faced locust monsters and a literal prostitute named Babylon on a hydra. But St. John was writing in symbols and figures. That's what the ancient Jewish apocalyptic genre of literature involved: revelation (Greek: apokalypsis) concerning heavenly and spiritual things. It's not meant to be taken literally the same way that other forms of literature are meant literally. It is intentionally non-literal.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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Who is the high priest and what is his function in the end times? What makes him significant? This is the first time I think I've read anyone mention about him.
 
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And for those saying we aren't in the last days

You do realize governments all over the world are on the cusp of implementing Centrally Backed Digital Currencies, right? Do you have any idea what that implies? Take a guess.
 
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Who is the high priest and what is his function in the end times? What makes him significant? This is the first time I think I've read anyone mention about him.
The high priest is the one who goes into temple on the Day of Atonement and goes behind the veil into the Holy of Holies chamber and sprinkles blood on the mercy seat of the Ark of the Covenant. When the Ark disappeared, he sprinkles blood where the Ark would have been. He is the only one allowed to perform that function. No-one can go behind the veil except the high priest. And he is allowed only once a year.

In the end times, the Jews will be conducting animal sacrifices, and other observances - including the Day of Atonement observation - so there has to be a high priest appointed.

The high priest also wears a special vest of 12 gemstones. The high priest is highest ranking religious figure in Israel tradition.


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And for those saying we aren't in the last days

The last days of mystery Babylon and ending of human government started with Jesus being crucified

But the part when the AC and FP takes place is not happening in this day and age

The temple has not been built yet
The false messianic age has not begun it’s crimes mystery babylons home is yet to be built

Mystery Babylon has been riding the 7 headed beast up till now and though she has committed many wicked and horrible acts throughout her reign she is yet to be punished and will become even more arrogant as time draws closer


You do realize governments all over the world are on the cusp of implementing Centrally Backed Digital Currencies, right? Do you have any idea what that implies? Take a guess.
The mark of the beast ?

Digital currency is probably going to make the world rich

Is it the mark? of course not …the mark takes places at the end of mystery Babylon’s reign when she is being destroyed and the little horn puts an idol of himself (AOD) in the temple which many “it’s been done already” can’t seem to understand “

It’s an idol of himself ,the AOD is an idol of himself, that comes to life like a golem
This has never happened and many manipulated by mystery Babylon believe it’s never going to happen

And so they will say Jesus is a liar
Where is the promise of his coming to rule in Jerusalem
Others will say the lord tarries
And begin to smite their fellow servants

And so these things must be but the end is not yet until you see the AOD standing where it is not supposed to stand
 
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Who is the high priest and what is his function in the end times? What makes him significant? This is the first time I think I've read anyone mention about him.
He’s another annointed one he is a messiah if you will

What’s his role? Temple business, the holy days, sacrifices , the duties of a high priest

Can he judge human high crimes? He judged Jesus and found him guilty and rented his clothes

That’s all I have to say about that (in my forest Gump voice):)
 
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The high priest is the one who goes into temple on the Day of Atonement and goes behind the veil into the Holy of Holies chamber and sprinkles blood on the mercy seat of the Ark of the Covenant. When the Ark disappeared, he sprinkles blood where the Ark would have been. He is the only one allowed to perform that function. No-one can go behind the veil except the high priest. And he is allowed only once a year.

In the end times, the Jews will be conducting animal sacrifices, and other observances - including the Day of Atonement observation - so there has to be a high priest appointed.

The high priest also wears a special vest of 12 gemstones. The high priest is highest ranking religious figure in Israel tradition.


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I wonder if the ark is found or they always knew where it was and protected it all these years
 
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Non-believing Jews have their own religion, Judaism. While I believe Christians can learn a lot from looking at ancient and historic Jewish ideas, especially as it pertains to the historical Jewish context of the New Testament. I see no reason to be concerned with trying to reconcile Judaism and Christianity. We are talking about two distinct religions that have been separated from one another for two thousand years.

Judaism is about to play a major role in the last days and we here on cf discuss eschatology

As a Christian I believe that Jesus is the Messiah, the Christ. That's where our name comes from, we are believers in Jesus the Messiah.

Amen Jesus is lord ,king of the Jews and our everlasting Heavenly Father prince of peace he is a wonderful counselor
Non-Christian Jews don't believe that. And what non-Christian Jews have to say (or not say) about Jesus isn't relevant to me as a Christian.
You do not fear a messianic age coming from the Jews? Have you not read what the Old Testament has to say about that reign over the nations?

I mean they judge and condemn and had killed Jesus? This is part of the gospel they rejected him making a way for us to be saved …but we are not fools ..that system of government had the son of god murdered unjustly ….and what will that mean for saints who love Jesus that love the true son of David and await him?


Do we not sound an alarm that something coming to warn our brothers and sisters?

Point im making is that the false messianic age will not be good for other religions especially followers of Jesus who believe he is still to return to reign in Jerusalem because he bought it with is own blood and it belongs to him and as king has the right to sit on David’s throne and judge the nations in righteousness


Jesus fulfilled everything He came to fulfill.

No he did not
satan must be cast out
Mystery Babylon must pay for her crimes
The resurrection must take place
He must tread the winepress of the wrath of god

The list goes on


The promises of God made in the covenants and promises to Adam, Abraham, Moses, and David have all been fulfilled in Jesus the Messiah.

Has the dead been resurrected? Is death swallowed up in victory, Does Jesus sit on David’s throne ruling from Jerusalem? Is satan an n the lake of fire ? Are we wearing our glorious bodies



Through the Messiah God has called the Nations to Mt. Zion, He has made of two people--Jews and Gentiles--a new people in the Messiah. Even as natural branches were pruned away from the olive tree, so has God grafted on wild branches. The whole tree, Jew and Gentile, are rooted in the Messiah as the people of God, namely the Church.

Yes



Non-Christian Jews look for the Messiah to come and rebuild the Temple, that is a false hope.

A false hope? no it’s about to become a reality


There is already a Holy Temple, it is the Messiah and His Church, as He has said, "Tear down this temple and in three days I shall raise it back up again" and the Apostle says that the Church is the Temple of the Holy Spirit, and each of us as members of that one mystical Body of Christ--the Church--is a spiritual stone. So God's Temple already exists, and has for two thousand years. If

There is a temple in heaven too

anyone should build a structure upon the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, it will be a meaningless building without significance.

It will have more significance that you believe


The Messiah already reigns, seated at the right hand of the Father.
Amen and promised the Jews he would return and restore the kingdom of Israel


Even as was said by Daniel, the Son of Man was taken up before the Ancient of Days and given kingdom and everlasting dominion. What does Christ say at His Ascension? "All authority has been given to Me" and that those who heard His own words would see the Son of Man coming into His kingdom--taken up on clouds up into heaven, as the Gospel of Luke and the Acts of the Apostles bears witness.

Yes
When He returns, He returns to judge the living and the dead. For we read in the 15th chapter of St. Paul's first letter to the Corinthians that the Messiah must reign until every enemy is made subject to Him, the final enemy to be defeated being death, then He shall deliver all things over to the Father and God will be all in all. So the Messiah reigns, He reigns now through His Church, not like emperors and kings do, but as the Royal Suffering Servant, the Son of David, the Root of Jesse--He who says the kingdom of God is not likened to the kingdoms of this world and that His kingdom is not of this world has His kingdom from heaven from which He reigns and we are seated with Him in heavenly places. When He returns, He comes in Judgment, and the dead shall be raised, and then God will make all things new.
True but don’t forget the part where he treads the winepress of the wrath of god and takes away the kingdom’s of this world away from satan and locks him up and reign 1000 years

See justice is being done for all the crimes the world has ever experienced at the hands of mystery Babylon this will be a glorious day



Those who look seek temples and sacrifices in the earthly Jerusalem look after false messiahs.
Yes

Which Christ has warned about. But the Gospel is the very power of God to save all who believe, for both Jew and Gentile.
Amen

So that all who call on His name shall be saved, and all who trust on Him shall not be put to shame. God who consigned all to disobedience has mercy on all, and is unwilling that any perish, but that all repent and live.

Yes amen
This is the false doctrine known as Dispensationalist Premillennialism.
No not false doctrine ,rejected doctrine by you and others but not


When Jesus returns, He returns as Judge. As we see time and again concerning His promised Parousia throughout the New Testament: He comes, the dead are raised, and those who remain at His coming shall join in the resurrection, "For I tell you a mystery" says St. Paul, "We shall not all die, but we shall all be changed." Which he mentions again in 1 Thessalonians 4:13-17, that at Christ's glorious coming the trumpet shall sound, the dead shall be raised, even those who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with the resurrected dead to meet the glorious returning Lord Jesus as He comes. And then God shall make all things new: new heavens and new earth.
There are 2 comings one in the air one to rule

I'd recommend avoiding trying to take St. John's Apocalypse too literally, otherwise we end up believing in literal human-faced locust monsters and a literal prostitute named Babylon on a hydra. But St. John was writing in symbols and figures. That's what the ancient Jewish apocalyptic genre of literature involved: revelation (Greek: apokalypsis) concerning heavenly and spiritual things. It's not meant to be taken literally the same way that other forms of literature are meant literally. It is intentionally non-literal.

-CryptoLutheran
Rev 1:3 Blessed is the one who reads aloud the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear it and take to heart what is written in it, because the time is near.
 
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If the messiah is almost here then the Messianic age is about to begin …
What's your point? That the Antichrist will be a Jew? The Bible contradicts.

Revelation makes it clear that Babylon the Great who is Jerusalem/Israel will be destroyed by the Antichrist. So the Antichrist will not rule in Babylon/Jerusalem in a temple as dispensationalists claim, he will be the one who hates and destroys Babylon. This also proves that Babylon the Great and the Antichrist are from two different origins.

The bizarre thought that Babylon is a city that will only appear in the future is biblically wrong. Revelation makes it clear that Babylon the Great already existed at the time of the Neo-Babylonian Empire and has been murdering prophets ever since. This can only be Jerusalem. Note also that Revelation speaks of a "New Jerusalem" that is in heaven, a heavenly city. The question is what happened to the "Old Jerusalem" that is on earth? Well, it will be finally destroyed by the Antichrist.
 
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I have no idea what u mean if you choose not to explain yourself

Blessings may Jesus save us all
I did explain, Dispensational Futurism is not scriptural.
Blessings
 
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Judaism is about to play a major role in the last days and we here on cf discuss eschatology

I see no reason to believe this.

Amen Jesus is lord ,king of the Jews and our everlasting Heavenly Father prince of peace he is a wonderful counselor

You do not fear a messianic age coming from the Jews? Have you not read what the Old Testament has to say about that reign over the nations?

The Messianic Age is already. Jesus Christ rose from the dead, He ascended, and reigns at the right hand of the Father, from whence He will come again to judge the living and the dead on the Last Day.

"a messianic age coming from the Jews" already happened, and I don't fear it. It is the very reign and kingdom of God here and through His Church as the Gospel is proclaimed restoring, healing, and saving us sinners and reconciling us to God.

I mean they judge and condemn and had killed Jesus? This is part of the gospel they rejected him making a way for us to be saved …but we are not fools ..that system of government had the son of god murdered unjustly ….and what will that mean for saints who love Jesus that love the true son of David and await him?


Do we not sound an alarm that something coming to warn our brothers and sisters?

Point im making is that the false messianic age will not be good for other religions especially followers of Jesus who believe he is still to return to reign in Jerusalem because he bought it with is own blood and it belongs to him and as king has the right to sit on David’s throne and judge the nations in righteousness

Why would I believe in a "false messianic age"? Christ said there would be many false messiahs, and there have been false messiahs all throughout history. That's not something I fear.


No he did not
satan must be cast out
Mystery Babylon must pay for her crimes
The resurrection must take place
He must tread the winepress of the wrath of god

The list goes on




Has the dead been resurrected? Is death swallowed up in victory, Does Jesus sit on David’s throne ruling from Jerusalem? Is satan an n the lake of fire ? Are we wearing our glorious bodies


When He comes again to judge the living and the dead on the Last Day that is the day the dead shall be raised.

Babylon is already fallen, it was ancient Rome which is no more. Satan is already defeated, he rages because his time is short. We await the return of Christ and the renewal of all things, but St. Paul says that He must reign until every enemy is laid beneath His feet--the last enemy being death. When He returns and the dead are raised then it will be said, "Where O Death is your sting? Where O Death is your victory?" For death is swallowed up in victory.

Yes





A false hope? no it’s about to become a reality

There have been many messianic claimants throughout history.

There is a temple in heaven too



It will have more significance that you believe



Amen and promised the Jews he would return and restore the kingdom of Israel

He said His kingdom was not of this world. The kingdom He has received is an everlasting kingdom. He isn't going to restore an earthly nation in the Levant, because in Him Israel isn't a geographic location, it is the Covenant in His blood through which we are reconciled to God by His grace. All who belong to Christ, whether Jew or Gentile, are Israel. He is Messiah ben David, and He reigns forever as King.


Yes

True but don’t forget the part where he treads the winepress of the wrath of god and takes away the kingdom’s of this world away from satan and locks him up and reign 1000 years

See justice is being done for all the crimes the world has ever experienced at the hands of mystery Babylon this will be a glorious day

Yes, Christ returns in Judgment on the Last Day.

Yes


Amen



Yes amen

No not false doctrine ,rejected doctrine by you and others but not

Innovative doctrines are always false. If it's not what the Apostles believed, if it's not what the Scriptures teach, and if it's not what anyone before the 1820's ever believed then it is, by definition, a false doctrine.

No different than the Jehovah's Witnesses who claim Jesus "returned invisibly" in 1919 teach a false doctrine.

There are 2 comings one in the air one to rule

That's the same Parousia. Read 1 Thessalonians 4:13-17, Jesus is coming down, we meet Him in the air, but He is coming down. When Jesus returns, He comes down--we meet Him in the air.

Notice what you'll never read in the Bible: No where does it say that when Jesus returns He takes everyone everyone back up into heaven. That's not anywhere in your Bible. The only return of Christ is His returns in glory, which is when the dead are raised.

Rev 1:3 Blessed is the one who reads aloud the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear it and take to heart what is written in it, because the time is near.

Yes. But read the words as they were meant to be taken. Not with whatever fanciful meanings we contrive by our own imaginations. Everyone speaks of the importance of exegesis for most of the Bible, but once we start talking about the Revelation all the rules of exegesis and hermeneutics are thrown out the window, and people just make up whatever they want as suits their fancy.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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The last days of mystery Babylon and ending of human government started with Jesus being crucified

But the part when the AC and FP takes place is not happening in this day and age

The temple has not been built yet
The false messianic age has not begun it’s crimes mystery babylons home is yet to be built

Mystery Babylon has been riding the 7 headed beast up till now and though she has committed many wicked and horrible acts throughout her reign she is yet to be punished and will become even more arrogant as time draws closer



The mark of the beast ?

Digital currency is probably going to make the world rich

Is it the mark? of course not …the mark takes places at the end of mystery Babylon’s reign when she is being destroyed and the little horn puts an idol of himself (AOD) in the temple which many “it’s been done already” can’t seem to understand “

It’s an idol of himself ,the AOD is an idol of himself, that comes to life like a golem
This has never happened and many manipulated by mystery Babylon believe it’s never going to happen

And so they will say Jesus is a liar
Where is the promise of his coming to rule in Jerusalem
Others will say the lord tarries
And begin to smite their fellow servants

And so these things must be but the end is not yet until you see the AOD standing where it is not supposed to stand
I find it interesting that you seem to be a futurist and yet you're naive to the concept of what the CBDC will be capable of. The plan isn't to use it to lift the world out of poverty, the plan is to keep people in a state of austerity and digital censorship. If all of the currency in the world becomes digital, that's one step closer to implementing a one-world global currency, which we know will be a feature of the real end times.
 
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I see no reason to believe this.
I see you are Lutheran. Wasn't Martin Luther highly anti-semitic ?

Judaism will play a significant role in the fulfillment of end-times prophecy. Therefore, it is is important to know what Judaism believes in regards to the messiah to know why the Jews will temporarily believe that the person who becomes the Antichrist is their messiah for awhile.

The rapture/resurrection is not at Jesus's return, but before HIs return and before the great tribulation. Jesus coming to receive them who are looking for Him, to Himself, to forever be with the Lord where ever He goes.

At His Return, His saints coming with Him.
 
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