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Biden says U.S. must not tolerate hate.....

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You answered that question for yourself. In any case, you seem to be walking back your initial claim that white people would soon be forced to pay for six-figure handouts to Black and Native American residents. This was the “woe to the white man” segment of your thesis. Glad to see you’ve wised up.
Where did I walk anything back? You seem to have a different version of the discussion going on in your own mind that differs from what is on our screens. How about you join me back here with the actual discussion?
 
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Where did I walk anything back? You seem to have a different version of the discussion going on in your own mind that differs from what is on our screens. How about you join me back here with the actual discussion?
It’s the posts where you pretend not to have said it for me.
 
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Looking back at my posts, I can't find my "woe for the Whiteman" comment.
Don't worry, the money will come from somewhere. If nothing else, biden will step in and have the money printed to ensure he gets those votes in 2024.
You can't find what you wrote in your own posts?
So yes...the money would come feom taxpayers right?? You understand that money would have to come from tax payers
 
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You can't find what you wrote in your own posts?

I can find what I wrote, but not what you are inventing.

So yes...the money would come feom taxpayers right?? You understand that money would have to come from tax payers

Hooray! The taxpayers (the majority of which are white) will be on the hook to help California's black voters realize that biden is their man!
 
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I can find what I wrote, but not what you are inventing.



Hooray! The taxpayers (the majority of which are white) will be on the hook to help California's black voters realize that biden is their man!
Why not? They’ve been on the hook to help keep certain neighborhoods white for decades. Only fair some of the spoils should go to minorities now and then.

Not that this has anything to do with Biden. This is a recommendation from a nine-member panel of policy advisors in California, not a political initiative backed by anyone with the power to enact it.
 
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Why not? They’ve been on the hook to help keep certain neighborhoods white for decades. Only fair some of the spoils should go to minorities now and then.

Uh huh. Whatever you say.

Not that this has anything to do with Biden. This is a recommendation from a nine-member panel of policy advisors in California, not a political initiative backed by anyone with the power to enact it.

As I already educated about in posts 133 and 139, California doesn't have that much money. biden will have to provide it--or more accurately, force the taxpayers to provide it.
 
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Uh huh. Whatever you say.



As I already educated about in posts 133 and 139, California doesn't have that much money. biden will have to provide it--or more accurately, force the taxpayers to provide it.
What makes you think this is anywhere remotely near Biden’s radar?
 
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What makes you think this is anywhere remotely near Biden’s radar?

As we've seen in the last few days (and many times before that), biden will virtue-signal to the black/gay community if it means scoring political points with them. He knows he needs all the help he can get considering his abysmal approval rating.
 
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As we've seen in the last few days (and many times before that), biden will virtue-signal to the black/gay community if it means scoring political points with them. He knows he needs all the help he can get considering his abysmal approval rating.
While it’s generally true that enacting policy to improve the lives of your constituents is good for approval ratings, I doubt this one - which would affect a tiny minority in a single state that reliably votes blue anyway - would do anything to move the needle. I will give you $300,000 if this happens.
 
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Hooray! The taxpayers (the majority of which are white) will be on the hook to help California's black voters realize that biden is their man!
Why is it SO important for you to hammer on the fact that white people pay taxes and minorities benefit from them when the opposite also happens?
 
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Why is it SO important for you to hammer on the fact that white people pay taxes and minorities benefit from them when the opposite also happens?

When taxpayers who are black are forced by the government to pay $233,000 to taxpayers who are white, I'll answer that question.
 
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When taxpayers who are black are forced by the government to pay $233,000 to taxpayers who are white, I'll answer that question.
So if that money was being paid to white people you'd feel.......
 
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So if that money was being paid to white people you'd feel.......
If it was being paid to white people exclusively, and based on their skin color, that would be wrong as well.
 
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If it was being paid to white people exclusively, and based on their skin color, that would be wrong as well.
What if that had been happening for 200 years and then stopped. Would the others have financially recovered from supporting the white race, say, 60 years later?
 
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What if that had been happening for 200 years and then stopped. Would the others have financially recovered from supporting the white race, say, 60 years later?
It hasn't, so there's no need for fantastical hypotheticals.
 
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It hasn't, so there's no need for fantastical hypotheticals.
If only it had been that gentle. What happened, as we all know, was far worse. Do you truly not know about this?
 
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Is it hate to point out that dangerous and fascistic ideologies are gaining support among supporters of a particular politician? If this is interpreted as hatred, then is the pushback against Biden’s strong statement also considered hate? I think it’s important to look beyond the immediate emotional reaction we experience from hearing an idea that differs from ours and ask whether that idea really comes from a place of hate, or it’s just something we hate to hear.
It is not necessarily a matter of hatred to point out that a politician, politicians or those that support them have advocated for dangerous fascistic ideologies and policies. I don't consider myself to hate anyone and have often pointed out the fascistic tendencies among politicians on both sides of the aisle. Pretending that such tendencies are only among the followers of one particular politician is ridiculous. The fact is that many people wear voluntarily fixed blinders in order to accuse others of being unique in this way. They exhibit the same tendencies when it comes to pursuing their own agendas. The excuse is always that the ends justify the means. Hate is an emotion which manifests itself in people wishing harm to come to the object of their displeasure. People that hate find pleasure in the distress of others i.e. Schadenfreude. As far as i am concerned if one takes pleasure in harm done to others or if one wishes harm upon others then one is engaging in hate. If one points out the things that others do that one finds disgraceful or disgusting or immoral or hypocritical without harboring ill will toward those others that one critiques, one is simply giving an opinion. One can often tell by the way a person expresses an opinion whether or not they also harbor ill will toward those they are criticizing.
 
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