Alternative Explanations for 'The Mandela Effect'

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Thinking this way is why you are atheist
Remember how you accused me of using an "ad hominem"? Well... that here is one. "I don't have to adress your argument because of some other personal thing about you."

Do you know how many people who believe in God, gods, the divine think that the Mandela effect is false memories? Your're right at the source here... go ahead and make a poll.

So, can you adress my points or are you really just resorting to your dishonest debate tactics again? Well... a rhetorical question. We both know the answer. You are the leopard who can't change his shorts.
 
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Your comments about god are irrelevant


Also your comments about me are irrelevant
Your comments about my atheism are irrelevant also. And my comments about you are, or have become, the point of this conversation.

If someone like you, who has a "photographic memory" and "studied enough" isn't capable of following the most simple of conversations, understand basic content of statments and is generally evasive and dishonest... it really don't compels readers to consider your ideas.
 
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I would research this topic but I am not you
Rinse and repeat. We have been over that now... two times? Three? I guess you would remember.

But, ok, again. What is there to "research"? Stories that people tell. Shall I draw the parallels to flat earth videos again?

There are stories that are told - that you have repeated here - that are inherently inconsistent. Stories that have all the signs of being false... and I won't make any claims if these people were deliberately dishonest or just made mistakes out of ignorance.

But a lot of these can be led back to people not being aware of some fundamental facts that make their story impossible.

You have repeatedly been given the opportunity to adress these points. To show some "research". Do some of the "hard work" that I referred to in a previous post.

But you don't. Instead you make posts like this one.
 
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Fruit of the Loom

“I remember thinking the cornucopia was a loom, and distinctly remember my dad correcting me on that while laughing and teaching me what it actually was. I also remember doodling the logo …”
 
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Fruit of the Loom

“I remember thinking the cornucopia was a loom, and distinctly remember my dad correcting me on that while laughing and teaching me what it actually was. I also remember doodling the logo …”
Cool story, bro!

And the evidence that it is correct? Perhaps some of the doodles? Not that this would prove the appearance of the real logo, but it would be something. Or corrobating testimony from the father?

No? Nothing? See... I am trying to "research" something here... but there is nothing TO research.

Now that is all I am willing to talk about


You keep harming yourself with your comments


I do not want to participate…

A evasive dishonest debater not wanting to talk about how evasive and dishonest he is... who would have thought that?

True story: When I was really down on my luck (and that wasn't very far down, people have been worse, but still...) I was visiting a marketing / recruitement event for an MLM corporation. Some sort of food additives.
They told us a lot of how good their product was. And they told us a lot about how much potential to earn money there was for everyone, and how each of the presenters had made tons of money in that organization.

I'm a mathematician. I could crunsh the numbers. But even a layman with even a bit of understanding and not blinded by getting rich from easy work could see what it was: a pyramid scheme. I told them so. No, correction, I asked them about it.

They denied, deflected, and when I pushed a bit harder, they insisted that maybe it wasn't for me.

I'm getting the same vibes here.

Now I am not saying that you want to scam people. But you should be aware that if you walk like a duck and talk like a duck and look like a duck... you can very easily be taken for a duck.
 
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Everyone assumes it is false memory at first
Really? You might remember that you posted that:

when everyone is saying this is happening … maybe you should listen

It seems "everyone" is either very inconsistent... or you have a very strange notion of "everyone", depending on your mood.
 
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The only thing skeptics say is false memory


Not everyone remains a skeptic
Not everyone. Some - many - do. Because there is no reason not to be skeptical. But maybe you are referring to some future acceptence, where "everyone" will understand the "truth" of your claims. Because reasons. Reasons that are as non-existent as your evidence.

But again: you are being dishonest. Usually I would be using Hanlon's Razor and not assume that you are deliberate so... but we have been over that before. And still you are here making a statement like "The only thing skeptics say is false memory".

The thing that skeptics say is: "False memories is an existing and proven phenomenon. In addition to various other psychological phenomena, it is a valid explanation for these perceived discrepancies. In light of the known mechanics behind that, and the lack of evidence and the problems that a 'shifting universe' would have, it is a much better explanation. And given some of the inconsistencies in the 'memories' that some people tell, it is a VASTLY better explanation."

There. Typed it out. So if you repeat this "you only say false memories" again, I WILL call you a liar. Directly and without sweet talking. Do you get that?
 
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The thing that skeptics say is: "False memories is an existing and proven phenomenon. In addition to various other psychological phenomena, it is a valid explanation for these perceived discrepancies. In light of the known mechanics behind that, and the lack of evidence and the problems that a 'shifting universe' would have, it is a much better explanation. And given some of the inconsistencies in the 'memories' that some people tell, it is a VASTLY better explanation."

You are letting science think for you


My appeal is to think for yourself
 
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