My Sandwich Challenge

[HARK!]

I created a apple butter sandwich. My sandwich is part of the Universe.


Question: In this act, did I create the Universe?

 

[Hans Blaster]

I created a apple butter sandwich. My sandwich is part of the Universe.


Question: In this act, did I create the Universe?

No. I did. Now please leave my universe.

 

[HARK!]

Now please leave my universe.

 

[SelfSim]

I created a apple butter sandwich. My sandwich is part of the Universe.


Question: In this act, did I create the Universe?

I have no idea what you mean by 'create'. Please explain how you go about this 'creating'.

 

[Hans Blaster]

I have no idea what you mean by 'create'. Please explain how you go about this 'creating'.

Like most creations, first you take pre-existing matter or energy and then use transform it into something else. In this case, it would seem, a couple slices of bread and some "apple butter" and spread one on the other (probably with a finger) and you have something new that didn't previously exist.

As the open of that famous argument about gods goes:

Premise 1: All things that begin to exist began to exist from pre-existing material. (or something like that).

 

[SelfSim]

Like most creations, first you take pre-existing matter or energy and then use transform it into something else. In this case, it would seem, a couple slices of bread and some "apple butter" and spread one on the other (probably with a finger) and you have something new that didn't previously exist.

As the open of that famous argument about gods goes:

Premise 1: All things that begin to exist began to exist from pre-existing material. (or something like that).

So God/ the Creator is sort of like 'Q'?

 

[HARK!]

I have no idea what you mean by 'create'. Please explain how you go about this 'creating'.

I created it intuitively.

 

[SelfSim]

I created it intuitively.

Is it possible for you to create a universe out of (the same) instinct?

 

[Hans Blaster]

So God/ the Creator is sort of like 'Q'?

"Q" seems to claim to alter the physics of the universe, so no, not actually that powerful.

 

[HARK!]

Is it possible for you to create a universe out of (the same) instinct?

You tell me.

Don't forget to vote.

 

[public hermit]

I created a apple butter sandwich. My sandwich is part of the Universe.


Question: In this act, did I create the Universe?

Although your apple butter sandwhich might share certain properties with universes, e.g., it is a whole with parts, I don't think making something qualifies as creating something, at least not as divine creating has been understood in the west. Divine creation is either ex nihilo or emanation. If your sandwich did emanate from your being, we would love to see the video. If you created your sandwich ex nihilio, a video will just look like you altered it. I'm really hoping for the former.

 

[HARK!]

Divine creation is either ex nihilo or emanation. If your sandwich did emanate from your being...

Hold it right there.

Definition of ex nihilo


: from or out of nothing

Definition of EX NIHILO

Surely you aren't saying that a divine being is nothing?

 

[SelfSim]

You tell me.

Don't forget to vote.

Insufficient information.
Can't vote .. there's no 'Insufficient information' option.

 

[public hermit]

Surely you aren't saying that a divine being is nothing

If I did, I would quote Meister Eckhart. I wouldn't just through that out there without context.

 

[AV1611VET]

I created a apple butter sandwich. My sandwich is part of the Universe.


Question: In this act, did I create the Universe?

No.

You performed an act of creatio ex materia, but one that hardly gives you credit for creating the universe it is in.

 

[SelfSim]

Surely you aren't saying that a divine being is nothing?

Is your instinct 'nothing'?

 

[AV1611VET]

Divine creation is either ex nihilo or emanation.

What about ex materia -- such as creating Adam from the dust of the ground?

 

[AV1611VET]

Insufficient information.
Can't vote .. there's no 'Insufficient information' option.

Then test it yourself.

Make an apple butter sandwich, then see if you feel you've created the universe.

If you feel you have, vote accordingly.

If you feel you haven't, vote accordingly.

 

[SelfSim]

What about ex materia -- such as creating Adam from the dust of the ground?

We're dealing with 'instinct' thus far ... Not dust.

 

[SelfSim]

Then test it yourself.

Make an apple butter sandwich, then see if you feel you've created the universe.

If you feel you have, vote accordingly.

If you feel you haven't, vote accordingly.

Depends on my condition/state when I make the sandwich. Eg: if I'm on the edge of death, then 'universe', and every other word you're using there, has no meaning.
Insufficient information. Still can't vote due to shortfall in constraint specifications pertaining to a context.