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I have a New Cambridge Paragraph Bible, which is a King James Version with all of the canonical books included (73 of them), but with seven of them and parts of two more in a kind of intertestamental appendix, as is the custom with the KJV. And I have numerous Catholic bibles with 73 canonical books. And I have some Protestant versions with only 66 books in them which means about 288 to 300 pages are missing from the 66 book versions. What do you good people do when you think about the missing pages? Does it bother you or are you happy as happy can be to have around 300 pages missing from your bible?
 
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I have a New Cambridge Paragraph Bible, which is a King James Version with all of the canonical cooks included (73) but with parts in a kind of intertestamental appendix, as is the custom with the KJV. And I have numerous Catholic bibles with 73 canonical books. And I have some Protestant versions with only 66 books in them which means about 288 to 300 pages are missing from them. What do you folk do when you think about the missing pages? Does it bother you or are you happy as happy can be to have around 300 pages missing from your bible?
There are numerous apocryphal books containing many pages, should I be concerned about all the pages I have not read or should I just concern myself with the ones that have been researched and proven to be reliable?
 
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I have a New Cambridge Paragraph Bible, which is a King James Version with all of the canonical books included (73 of them), but with seven of them and parts of two more in a kind of intertestamental appendix, as is the custom with the KJV. And I have numerous Catholic bibles with 73 canonical books. And I have some Protestant versions with only 66 books in them which means about 288 to 300 pages are missing from the 66 book versions. What do you good people do when you think about the missing pages? Does it bother you or are you happy as happy can be to have around 300 pages missing from your bible?
They are not missing from my Bible.
 
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There are numerous apocryphal books containing many pages, should I be concerned about all the pages I have not read or should I just concern myself with the ones that have been researched and proven to be reliable?
There are exactly seven books and portions of two more (Daniel and Esther) that are included in my Catholic bibles and are missing from a 66-book bible. And since all of those are canonical the question of alleged errors falls in the same category as alleged errors in the 66 books one finds in a 66-book bible.
 
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There are exactly seven books and portions of two more (Daniel and Esther) that are included in my Catholic bibles and are missing from a 66-book bible. And since all of those are canonical the question of alleged errors falls in the same category as alleged errors in the 66 books one finds in a 66-book bible.
Are those truly canonical? Based on what?
The Jewish Council of Jamnia met in A.D 90, they rejected the Apocrypha as Scripture. The nation of Israel treated these books with respect, but they never accepted them as true books of the inspired Jewish Scripture. Why Does the Catholic Bible Have Extra Books?
 
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Are those truly canonical? Based on what?
They are canonical indeed as defined by the one holy catholic and apostolic church. Jewish opinions apply to Jewish religion and catholic teaching applies to Catholic Christians.
 
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I have a New Cambridge Paragraph Bible, which is a King James Version with all of the canonical books included (73 of them), but with seven of them and parts of two more in a kind of intertestamental appendix, as is the custom with the KJV. And I have numerous Catholic bibles with 73 canonical books. And I have some Protestant versions with only 66 books in them which means about 288 to 300 pages are missing from the 66 book versions. What do you good people do when you think about the missing pages? Does it bother you or are you happy as happy can be to have around 300 pages missing from your bible?
I think your problem here brother is that you have a defective bible… maybe there was some kind of slip up during printing.

Simply take a sharp pair of scissors and gently remove those extra pages, or return your bible to where you purchased it for a replacement.

Problem solved :wink:
 
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Are those truly canonical? Based on what?
The Jewish Council of Jamnia met in A.D 90, they rejected the Apocrypha as Scripture. The nation of Israel treated these books with respect, but they never accepted them as true books of the inspired Jewish Scripture. Why Does the Catholic Bible Have Extra Books?
They're deuterocanonical. Secondary canon. The Hebrew Bible (Tanakh) doesn't carry some or all of them.
 
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I think your problem here brother is that you have a defective bible… maybe there was some kind of slip up during printing.

Simply take a sharp pair of scissors and gently remove those extra pages, or return your bible to where you purchased it for a replacement.

Problem solved :wink:
One hopes that the above post is humour.
 
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They're deuterocanonical. Secondary canon. The Hebrew Bible (Tanakh) doesn't carry some or all of them.
Since Christians are not Jewish it seems completely irrelevant what is or is not included in a Tanakh. Christians do not worry too much about what is or is not included in Islamic lists of holy books. Nor what is or is not included in Hindu or Buddhist lists. Christians made their own list in the early centuries of our common era and that is what matters for Christians.
 
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Since Christians are not Jewish it seems completely irrelevant what is or is not included in a Tanakh. Christians do not worry too much about what is or is not included in Islamic lists of holy books. Nor what is or is not included in Hindu or Buddhist lists. Christians made their own list in the early centuries of our common era and that is what matters for Christians.

No, it's completely relevant.

The OT Bible is the testimony of the Jews. They went through a long way to canonize it. It's once strictly guarded by the Jewish authority, and only authorized scribes and copy/publish legitimate Scripture to distribute to the Hebrew speaking Jews. The other 7 books are basically from the uncontrolled Greek version of the Bible. They are compiled by Jewish scholars or rabbis not as the authorized Bible but translated the Jewish religious documents for non-Hebrew speakers to have a read.

Early churches are quite isolated from the Jewish authority partly because such an authority is almost fully destroyed in the AD 70 siege (and other unrests around the period) and partly because even in the presence of such an Jewish authority they choose to reject Jesus Christ.

As a result, early Catholic churches based on the LXX to re-define the OT Canon, which is improper. God on the other hand corrected this by authenticated the Protestants.

So right now,
The Jews have the correct OT Canon, as it's their testimony and their canonization through the way from King Hezekiah till Ezra and till the Pharisees in Jesus' days.

The Catholics have the correct NT Canon, as it's the testimony of the Apostles with its canonization belonging to Christians instead of the Jews.

Only the fully authorized Protestants now have both a correct OT Canon and an NT Canon.

The trend is, when the Jews failed to to their job God shifted the authentication from the Jews to Christians. Similarly when the Catholics went corrupt and failed to do their job God shifted the authentication to the Protestants.

Thank God that we now have a half and half Catholics and Protestants in this world. Without the reformation, Christians may go wild when leaving the corrupt Catholics.
 
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They are canonical indeed as defined by the one holy catholic and apostolic church. Jewish opinions apply to Jewish religion and catholic teaching applies to Catholic Christians.
I'm not Catholic so it doesn't apply to me. I do have a Bible that contains these books but I haven't read them. I have more than enough material to cover in the 66 books. I haven't gotten around to reading the book of Enoch yet either, but I don't think I'm suffering because of it.
 
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One hopes that the above post is humour.
I was joking to the same degree that you were joking wondering how Protestants live with their bibles missing pages.

I chose to interpret your words humorously, as opposed to, you know, the alternative as ignorant, inflammatory and without grace.
 
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Since Christians are not Jewish it seems completely irrelevant what is or is not included in a Tanakh. Christians do not worry too much about what is or is not included in Islamic lists of holy books. Nor what is or is not included in Hindu or Buddhist lists. Christians made their own list in the early centuries of our common era and that is what matters for Christians.
We read and study the Tankah aka the Old Testament all the time.

Tobit, Judith, Wisdom, Sirach, Letter of Jeremiah, 1 Maccabees, 2 Maccabees are all intertestamental Jewish writings. Only Baruch comes close to having been written near the same time as Malachi.
 
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I chose to interpret your words humorously
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What do you good people do when you think about the missing pages? Does it bother you or are you happy as happy can be to have around 300 pages missing from your bible?
but if you want to treat that as a joke, who am I to demand anything else from you?
:)
 
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We read and study the Tankah aka the Old Testament all the time.

Tobit, Judith, Wisdom, Sirach, Letter of Jeremiah, 1 Maccabees, 2 Maccabees are all intertestamental Jewish writings. Only Baruch comes close to having been written near the same time as Malachi.
When a book was written doesn't matter so much as which books the Church included in her bible for use by the faithful.
 
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I have a New Cambridge Paragraph Bible, which is a King James Version with all of the canonical books included (73 of them), but with seven of them and parts of two more in a kind of intertestamental appendix, as is the custom with the KJV. And I have numerous Catholic bibles with 73 canonical books. And I have some Protestant versions with only 66 books in them which means about 288 to 300 pages are missing from the 66 book versions. What do you good people do when you think about the missing pages? Does it bother you or are you happy as happy can be to have around 300 pages missing from your bible?

They aren't missing from my Bible; they were never in my Bible.

You said yourself that it was common to put the OT apocryphal books in between the OT and NT; when was it decided that these were also Scripture? I have never been taught that the book of Judith carries as much weight and authority as the prophet Isaiah. I haven't even heard anyone quoting from the apocrypha, or giving teaching that relates to our Christian lives.
And there is a NT apocrypha too - Gospel of Peter, Gospel of Thomas etc.
Where do you draw the line about the number of books that are inspired by God with Apostolic authority and authenticity? Should the Bible have 100 books? 120?
 
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I have a New Cambridge Paragraph Bible, which is a King James Version with all of the canonical books included (73 of them), but with seven of them and parts of two more in a kind of intertestamental appendix, as is the custom with the KJV. And I have numerous Catholic bibles with 73 canonical books. And I have some Protestant versions with only 66 books in them which means about 288 to 300 pages are missing from the 66 book versions. What do you good people do when you think about the missing pages? Does it bother you or are you happy as happy can be to have around 300 pages missing from your bible?

I have the deuterocanonical books in my Bible. I love Wisdom of Solomon and Ecclesiasticus. The Maccabees are a snooze, imo. I worship the living Christ so I don't worry if some pages are missing or not. If salvation somehow depended on the number of books in our Bibles, then it would matter, but it doesn't so it doesn't.
 
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