Ten Reasons I'm a Sabbatarian [moved thread]

[Cornelius8L]

Hi Cornelius8L,

I'll give it a shot, if you'll likewise share your view about verse 9.

God bless!

But for the grace of God go I,cyspark

V9 Sabbath rest is the same as V6 Sabbath rest, a certain day again designated in v7, and another day mentioned in v8. V9 also refers to v1 “the promise of entering His rest still stands,” and v3 ”Now we who have believed enter that rest.” – referring to the good news mentioned in v2.

 

[Cornelius8L]

Hi Cornelius8L,

Please supply the biblical law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or commandment which authorizes and provides instructions for implementing this premise. Otherwise it is merely one of the myriad hedges which the Jews self-erected around the Sabbath which Jesus went out of His way to tear down. But strangely after many encounters with Jewish authorities in which He challenged, confronted and contradicted their misunderstandings of the Sabbath supposedly Jesus surreptitiously (as in no one, not even His own disciples were aware of any intended change) abolished the day He "made for the good of human beings" and which He said should be called "a delight." Don't you find that a bit far-fetched? Don't you find that unbelievable? Don't you find that unbiblical? I do.

I pray this helps.

But for the grace of God go I,cyspark

There is no scripture stating we can't go out on the Sabbath day as shown in Acts. The Sabbath is about communion with God Isaiah 58:13, the day to keep holy Exodus 20:8, I know I can be in communion with Him through His nature. The apostles were peaching the Word of God to Jews and Gentiles every Sabbath Acts 18:4, Acts 13:44, Acts 13:42. If we rest according to the commandment Exodus 20:8-11 there is nothing stating we can't go outside but are told to keep the Sabbath holy and to rest from work and labors.

So, did Jesus, whom they had accompanied for 3 years, also practice this, similar to Jesus accepting baptism nowhere recorded in OT? Isn't it illogical to say the disciples forget (if Jesus removed it) even after seeing Jesus ascend to heaven (Acts 1:9-12)? If the disciples practiced it even after the ascension of Jesus as an example, why is this not part of your sabbath practice today since it was never an ordinance removed in Colossians 2:14?

“let no man go out of his place on the seventh day.” spoken by God – Exodus 16:29
“a day of complete rest, a holy Sabbath to the LORD” - Exodus 16:23

 

[SabbathBlessings]

So, did Jesus, whom they had accompanied for 3 years, also practice this, similar to Jesus accepting baptism nowhere recorded in OT? Isn't it illogical to say the disciples forget (if Jesus removed it) even after seeing Jesus ascend to heaven (Acts 1:9-12)? If the disciples practiced it even after the ascension of Jesus as an example, why is this not part of your sabbath practice today since it was never an ordinance removed in Colossians 2:14?

“let no man go out of his place on the seventh day.” spoken by God – Exodus 16:29
“a day of complete rest, a holy Sabbath to the LORD” - Exodus 16:23

Let’s bring back in context and quote the whole text.

Exodus 16:22 And so it was, on the sixth day, that they gathered twice as much bread, two omers for each one. And all the rulers of the congregation came and told Moses. 23 Then he said to them, “This is what the Lord has said: ‘Tomorrow is a Sabbath rest, a holy Sabbath to the Lord. Bake what you will bake today, and boil what you will boil; and lay up for yourselves all that remains, to be kept until morning.’ ” 24 So they laid it up till morning, as Moses commanded; and it did not stink, nor were there any worms in it. 25 Then Moses said, “Eat that today, for today is a Sabbath to the Lord; today you will not find it in the field. 26 Six days you shall gather it, but on the seventh day, the Sabbath, there will be none.” 27 Now it happened that some of the people went out on the seventh day to gather, but they found none. 28 And the Lord said to Moses, “How long do you refuse to keep My commandments and My laws? 29 See! For the Lord has given you the Sabbath; therefore He gives you on the sixth day bread for two days. Let every man remain in his place; let no man go out of his place on the seventh day.” 30 So the people rested on the seventh day.

The context is not going out to gather manna on the seventh day, because there will be none. I had a feeling you would end up quoting this text, there is obviously no sin in going out of our houses to worship God as God says His Sabbath is a holy convocation Lev. 23:3 and Jesus never sinned and kept the Sabbath commandment by going to the Temple to read His Fathers Word on the Sabbath as our example to follow. Luke 4:16. There is no such scripture stating any of the commandments of God have ended or have been changed.

Hope this helps.

 

[Leaf473]

Using the traditional day of Jesus's Ascension as Thursday, then the Sabbath Day's journey mentioned in Acts 1 is about this imo:

Jesus tells them to remain in Jerusalem. Later, He leads them to the Mount of Olives, from which he ascends.

How could he tell them to stay in Jerusalem and then lead them outside of it? The answer is He didn't.

The writer specifies that it was a Sabbath Day's journey, which was the Jewish calculation of how far a person could travel and still be in the same place.
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A related question:
Do you regard it as okay to use public transportation on the Sabbath?

 

[Doran]

Hi JulieB67,

I think SabbathBlessings did a good job responding to this post but I'll just add my 2 cents here as well.

You're right, we can certainly worship God 24/7, and the Sabbath isn't specifically about worshipping only on that particular day. It is, however, a holy day, a day in which God's presence is specifically infused. Consider Moses's encounter with the burning bush. As he approached the bush the Lord spoke from it and instructed him to remove his sandals. Why? God answers saying, "because the place where [Moses is] standing is holy ground." So the next question that naturally arises is why was the ground holy? God's presence, right? So if the seventh day is holy, doesn't it track to conclude that what makes the day holy is God's presence? None of the other six days are holy. They are merely work days. The one day of the week that is holy is also the one day which we are to rest from our works as God rested from His. So if we're resting from our regular activities does it not make sense to spend that time with God on His holy and blessed day which Jesus says was made for human beings and which God says we are to call a delight? Jesus's custom was to go to church on the Sabbath. Why would you think His custom is unworthy to follow? Paul's regular habit was to likewise go to church on the Sabbath. Why would you think His custom is unworthy to follow? The Bible indicates that Christians are to follow their examples (1 John 2:6; 1 Corinthians 11:1).





The resting to which you are referring is tied explicitly to "the seventh day" and "the creation of the world." You don't get to dismiss this clear imperative based on equivocating about what sabbatimos means to you. Context is determinative and context indicates that we are to rest from our works, "just as God did from His." From what works do you suppose the context of Hebrews 4 is referring to that God rested? If you say anything other than the resting on the seventh day of creation then you have just abandoned the main and plain meaning of the passage in favor of eisegesis.





Hebrews 4 is very clear:

And yet his works have been finished since the creation of the world. 4 For somewhere he has spoken about the seventh day in these words: “On the seventh day God rested from all his works.” 5 And again in the passage above he says, “They shall never enter my rest.”

6 Therefore since it still remains for some to enter that rest, and since those who formerly had the good news proclaimed to them did not go in because of their disobedience, 7 God again set a certain day, calling it “Today.” This he did when a long time later he spoke through David, as in the passage already quoted:

“Today, if you hear his voice,
do not harden your hearts.”

8 For if Joshua had given them rest, God would not have spoken later about another day. 9 There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God; 10 for anyone who enters God’s rest also rests from their works, just as God did from his. 11 Let us, therefore, make every effort to enter that rest, so that no one will perish by following their example of disobedience.​

I too choose Scripture--read in it's normative sense.

I pray this helps.

But for the grace of God go I,cyspark

A few things: First there is no imperative command in this passage to keep the 7th day sabbath.

Secondly, you have to prove that God's rest = the 7th day sabbath rest.

Thirdly, when God "rested" on the 7th day, that was a symbolical rest, since God never tires or needs renewal or refreshment. Therefore, the sabbath rest of the 4th commandment, while having practical benefits for our physical needs, was nonetheless itself a shadow of a far greater eschatological rest (Col 2:17) -- a rest that what yet to come -- that rest being Christ. Christ is God's rest that God provided for man. Just like God gave the sabbath to his covenant people the ancient Israelities in the wilderness (Exodus 16), likewise God so loved the world he gave his only begotten Son to. Christ is God's [spiritual] rest that he has given to his covenant people.

Fourth, this is precisely why Hebrews 3 and 4 keeps emphasizing that the day of God's rest is TODAY -- not the seventh day, not tomorrow, not the next day -- but TODAY -- TODAY is the acceptable time of salvation because none us knows what tomorrow will bring, or even if there will be a tomorrow. In fact, the "rest" that all true born again believers enter into in this age is itself inaugural and will not be culminated until the return of the Lord.

And finally, as a little aside: You sabbatarians always seem to forget quite a few details about the 4th commandment and other relative sabbath commandments. Among these details is that the 4th commandment is unique because unlike eight of them, which are strictly negative injunctions, and unlike the 5th which is strictly positive, the 4th is both positive and negative. Yet, only the negative aspect of this commandment is constantly harped on and emphasized. The positive side, though, to the 4th is crystal clear: "Six days you shall labor and do all your work." You sabbatarians are sticklers for keeping to the letter of the negative, yet all but ignore the positive. In this day and age, most people don't even work 6 days. Most work only 5. In fact, it's become quite common for many full time employees to work just 4 days a week -- and even fewer days than this! I recently had to rush one of my cats to an emergency pet hospital and the vet who treated my little critter told my wife and I that he worked three 12-hour shifts, having the other 4 days to himself. So, how does all this square with obeying the letter of all the 4th commandment? Is it okay to obey the "six days" part of the commandment in spirit and not in letter, unlike "On it you shall not do any work..."?

 

[Doran]

Now, I have a couple of other questions for you sabbatarians. The opening verses of Leviticus 23 read:

Lev 23:1-3
23:1 The LORD said to Moses, 2 "Speak to the Israelites and say to them: 'These are my appointed feasts, the appointed feasts of the LORD, which you are to proclaim as sacred assemblies.

3 "'There are six days when you may work, but the seventh day is a Sabbath of rest, a day of sacred assembly. You are not to do any work; wherever you live, it is a Sabbath to the LORD.
NIV

Then beginning in verse 4, Moses reiterates to the Israelites what the six appointed feasts and sacred assemblies are and their appointed times. Can any of you sabbatarians explain why Moses would lump the weekly sabbath in with the appointed feasts and sacred assemblies? Why didn't he lump in any of the other 9 commandments of the Decalogue?

Also, are there any "sacred assemblies" ever associated with any of the other 9 commandments of the Decalogue? If not, why not?

 

[Leaf473]

Changed my mind, deleted the post.

 

[HIM]

V9 Sabbath rest is the same as V6 Sabbath rest, a certain day again designated in v7, and another day mentioned in v8. V9 also refers to v1 “the promise of entering His rest still stands,” and v3 ”Now we who have believed enter that rest.” – referring to the good news mentioned in v2.

No verse 9's sabbath rest is the same as verse 4 and 5. The Seventh Day in which God rested from all His works vs.4. All His works mention in verse 4 would also include everything that was needed for everyone to experience the Gospel rest mentioned in verse1-3. The Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. That is why in verse 3 it says, "Although the works were finished from the foundation of the world". Which is said in context to the previous clause, "For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest".

The rest or the rests mention are referring to the Gospel in Verses 2,3,6,7,8. Verse 10 mentions both. It says he that enters into his rest which is the Gospel ALSO, in addition to this rest which is the Gospel also ceases from his own work as, just like God did from His. As God did is a direct comparison. God on the Seventh Day did not entered into the Spiritual rest the Gospel avails in Christ. He is this Rest. He ceased from work. So we now because of resting through Christ in Him also, in addition to it, cease from our physically work on the seventh Day as God did.

(Heb 4:3 [KJV])
For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.

 

[Doran]

No verse 9's sabbath rest is the same as verse 4 and 5. The Seventh Day in which God rested from all His works vs.4. All His works mention in verse 4 would also include everything that was needed for everyone to experience the Gospel rest mentioned in verse1-3. The Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. That is why in verse 3 it says, "Although the works were finished from the foundation of the world". Which is said in context to the previous clause, "For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest".

The rest or the rests mention are referring to the Gospel in Verses 2,3,6,7,8. Verse 10 mentions both. It says he that enters into his rest which is the Gospel ALSO, in addition to this rest which is the Gospel also ceases from his own work as, just like God did from His. As God did is a direct comparison. God on the Seventh Day did not entered into the Spiritual rest the Gospel avails in Christ. He is this Rest. He ceased from work. So we now because of resting through Christ in Him also, in addition to it, cease from our physically work on the seventh Day as God did.

(Heb 4:3 [KJV])
For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.

(emphasis mine)

So, are you saying that the passage above is saying that believers "enter into" [the 7th day] rest?

Also, the verse above is misquoted. The text should read:

Heb 4:3
3 Now we who have believed enter that rest, just as God has said,

"So I declared on oath in my anger,
'They shall never enter my rest.'"
NIV

Who is the "They" in the last sentence who shall never enter God's rest? And is the text saying that "they" will never enter into God's [7th day sabbath] rest?

 

[Icyspark]

V9 Sabbath rest is the same as V6 Sabbath rest, a certain day again designated in v7, and another day mentioned in v8. V9 also refers to v1 “the promise of entering His rest still stands,” and v3 ”Now we who have believed enter that rest.” – referring to the good news mentioned in v2.

Hi Cornelius8L,

Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I will do what I can to share what I believe vs. 8 is addressing:

Hebrews 4:8-11
For if Joshua had given them rest, God would not have spoken later about another day. There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God; for anyone who enters God’s rest also rests from their works, just as God did from his. Let us, therefore, make every effort to enter that rest, so that no one will perish by following their example of disobedience.​

In Exodus 33:14 the Lord said to Moses, “My Presence will go with you, and I will give you rest.” Later in Numbers 14 the Lord responds to the Israelites refusal to obey His command to enter Canaan and delays the promised rest: "For forty years—one year for each of the forty days you explored the land—you will suffer for your sins and know what it is like to have me against you." So this generation was refused the rest God promised them which would be received upon entering the promised land. This is the backdrop for the "rest" which Joshua did not give the people.

However, after the forty years of suffering for their sins was accomplished they were able to enter the promised land (Deut. 3:18-20; Josh. 21:44; 23:1). Apparently this was only one aspect of the rest God intended for His chosen people because Hebrews 4:8 indicates that God spoke of "another day." That said, this other day is not fleshed out in biblical terms and while it may be a spiritual rest it doesn't track that that rest negatively impacts on the seventh day rest in which God's people are to rest "from their works just as God did from His."

I pray this helps.

But for the grace of God go I,cyspark

 

[Cornelius8L]

Let’s bring back in context and quote the whole text.

Exodus 16:22 And so it was, on the sixth day, that they gathered twice as much bread, two omers for each one. And all the rulers of the congregation came and told Moses. 23 Then he said to them, “This is what the Lord has said: ‘Tomorrow is a Sabbath rest, a holy Sabbath to the Lord. Bake what you will bake today, and boil what you will boil; and lay up for yourselves all that remains, to be kept until morning.’ ” 24 So they laid it up till morning, as Moses commanded; and it did not stink, nor were there any worms in it. 25 Then Moses said, “Eat that today, for today is a Sabbath to the Lord; today you will not find it in the field. 26 Six days you shall gather it, but on the seventh day, the Sabbath, there will be none.” 27 Now it happened that some of the people went out on the seventh day to gather, but they found none. 28 And the Lord said to Moses, “How long do you refuse to keep My commandments and My laws? 29 See! For the Lord has given you the Sabbath; therefore He gives you on the sixth day bread for two days. Let every man remain in his place; let no man go out of his place on the seventh day.” 30 So the people rested on the seventh day.

The context is not going out to gather manna on the seventh day, because there will be none. I had a feeling you would end up quoting this text, there is obviously no sin in going out of our houses to worship God as God says His Sabbath is a holy convocation Lev. 23:3 and Jesus never sinned and kept the Sabbath commandment by going to the Temple to read His Fathers Word on the Sabbath as our example to follow. Luke 4:16. There is no such scripture stating any of the commandments of God have ended or have been changed.

Hope this helps.

The quote is just for reference purposes.

My main point is since the Sabbath Journey is not an ordinance removed in Colossians 2:14, and Jesus would accept practices not mentioned in OT like baptism, and the Apostles also practiced this straight after the accession of Jesus (which means likely they have always been doing this when Jesus was around), then, shouldn’t you be preaching it too because it is not a practice removed in Colossians 2:16-17?

 

[Cornelius8L]

So we now because of resting through Christ in Him also, in addition to it, cease from our physically work on the seventh Day as God did.

Please give me more time later to digest your overall thoughts. Just sharing this part,

God’s work on the seventh day (Jesus said so, John 5:17) includes ruling the raging sea (Psalms 89:9) and sunrise and rainfall (Matthew 5:45). If God does not work on Saturday, we will have no sun or rain.

Ceasing work here is referring to the end of creation work (Hebrews 4:10), and if “heaven and earth (the foundation of the world)” point to the kingdom (Hebrews 12:26-28), the end of creation rest means stop creating “kingdom”, unlike the believers in 1 Corinthians 1:12, which causes division and setting up “other kingdoms.” The true kingdom of God is recognized by His teachings (Law), and it is a place of rest (Isaiah 28:12). So we should not contradict the complete truth, which results in creating another kingdom (unable to rest).

 

[SabbathBlessings]

The quote is just for reference purposes.

My main point is since the Sabbath Journey is not an ordinance removed in Colossians 2:14, and Jesus would accept practices not mentioned in OT like baptism, and the Apostles also practiced this straight after the accession of Jesus (which means likely they have always been doing this when Jesus was around), then, shouldn’t you be preaching it too because it is not a practice removed in Colossians 2:16-17?

Can you please quote the scripture where it says traveling only a days journey on the Sabbath is an ordinance in the law of Moses. I don’t think you have established this point yet.

 

[Bob S]

Can you please quote the scripture where it says traveling only a days journey on the Sabbath is an ordinance in the law of Moses. I don’t think you have established this point yet.

Can you please quote the scripture that explains when God require all mankind to observe the day he gave only to Israel? I don’t think you or spark have established this point yet.

 

[JulieB67]

I see, when the same greek word does not fit the way you like, you switch to Hebrews.

No, I agree that the word means the same, I was just saying that Sabbaton (Greek) is not used in the OT, it's Shabbath (Hebrew). But they have the same meaning, yes. But it doesn't change Sabbatimos and how it's utilized in Hebrews 4. And how Sabbaton is utiilzed in Colossians 2:14. Both are completely different.

"Isaiah 66:23 and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord."

But we can't leave out the first part of the verse. That's what tells us that the worship won't cease.

Isaiah 66:23 "And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord."

Anyway, we will probably have to agree to disagree. God bless.

Something we can agree on

 

[Leaf473]

Can you please quote the scripture where it says traveling only a days journey on the Sabbath is an ordinance in the law of Moses. I don’t think you have established this point yet.

Hi SB,

Are you using
A day's journey on the Sabbath
and
A Sabbath day's journey
interchangeably?

Acts 1
Then they returned to Jerusalem from the mountain called Olivet, which is near Jerusalem, a Sabbath day’s journey away.

Peace be with you!

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Hi SB,

Are you using
A day's journey on the Sabbath
and
A Sabbath day's journey
interchangeably?

Acts 1
Then they returned to Jerusalem from the mountain called Olivet, which is near Jerusalem, a Sabbath day’s journey away.

Peace be with you!

Leaf, does this answer the question I asked?

Can you please quote the scripture where it says traveling only a days journey on the Sabbath is an ordinance in the law of Moses. I don’t think you have established this point yet.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

No, I agree that the word means the same, I was just saying that Sabbaton (Greek) is not used in the OT, it's Shabbath (Hebrew). But they have the same meaning, yes. But it doesn't change Sabbatimos and how it's utilized in Hebrews 4. And how Sabbaton is utiilzed in Colossians 2:14. Both are completely different.



But we can't leave out the first part of the verse. That's what tells us that the worship won't cease.

Isaiah 66:23 "And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord."




Something we can agree on

The moon is how they kept tracked of months since there was no calendar system, the new moon just means new month. Isaiah 66:22-23 simply means from month to month and from week to week the saints will come together before the Lord on the Sabbath to worship Him. This verse does not say it's a continuous Sabbath all the time, so it's probably best not to read into what is not there.

There is no such scripture that says the Sabbath commandment changed into something different than how God stated. Anything else is reading into God's Word and God clearly told us to not add or subtract from His commandments. Deuteronomy 4:2 For me, I am going to believe in the way God specifically wrote and spoke His Sabbath commandment, over the way man has changed His Word. It's the only sure way we are following what God expects from us. If there is a heavenly rest that is different than the Sabbath, there are no details about it but there are explicit details on how to keep the Sabbath commandment that God gave for us now on this earth. Is God going to reward us, for not following what He asks now? I don't think so. Our test is 'today" not oh, you wanted me to obey the Sabbath commandment now- I thought I could do what I wanted on your holy day and keep the Sabbath later once I'm in heaven. Too many scriptures say otherwise Isaiah 58:13, Exodus 20:8-11 Hebrews 10:26 but God does give us freewill to test these theories, I personally think it's better to just obey God. There is no commandment that says thou shalt keep my heavenly rest holy.

This is what it looks like when we start adding our words to God's- it changes the meaning and we no longer are following what He asks and God warned us specifically about not doing this to His commandments.


Exodus 20:8 “Remember the Sabbath day, heavenly rest to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day heavenly rest is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day heavenly rest. Therefore the Lord blessed the heavenly rest Sabbath day and hallowed it.

Which is why Hebrews 4:4 reminds us that God's rest is on the seventh day and we cease from our works the same does He does to enter into His spiritual rest Hebrews 4:10, because we are made in His image to follow Him and why we should take the literally meaning on how Hebrews 4:9 translates into and not the "possibility" meaning because it reconciles with His entire Word.

 

[Doran]

Hi Cornelius8L,

Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I will do what I can to share what I believe vs. 8 is addressing:

Hebrews 4:8-11
For if Joshua had given them rest, God would not have spoken later about another day. There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God; for anyone who enters God’s rest also rests from their works, just as God did from his. Let us, therefore, make every effort to enter that rest, so that no one will perish by following their example of disobedience.​

In Exodus 33:14 the Lord said to Moses, “My Presence will go with you, and I will give you rest.” Later in Numbers 14 the Lord responds to the Israelites refusal to obey His command to enter Canaan and delays the promised rest: "For forty years—one year for each of the forty days you explored the land—you will suffer for your sins and know what it is like to have me against you." So this generation was refused the rest God promised them which would be received upon entering the promised land. This is the backdrop for the "rest" which Joshua did not give the people.

However, after the forty years of suffering for their sins was accomplished they were able to enter the promised land (Deut. 3:18-20; Josh. 21:44; 23:1). Apparently this was only one aspect of the rest God intended for His chosen people because Hebrews 4:8 indicates that God spoke of "another day." That said, this other day is not fleshed out in biblical terms and while it may be a spiritual rest it doesn't track that that rest negatively impacts on the seventh day rest in which God's people are to rest "from their works just as God did from His." (emphasis mine)

I pray this helps.

But for the grace of God go I,cyspark

Oh but it does, Icy, since the 4th commandment is very clearly a ceremonial law. And to say that any OT ceremonial-ritualistic law is binding upon New Covenant believers would be unprecedented in scripture! Point to one ceremonial ritual in the OT that is binding upon any born again child of God in this New Covenant age.

As far as "another day" (Heb 4:8) is concerned, Christ, who fulfills all the Law and the Prophets is that day. Consider these passages:

John 9:1-5
9:1 As he went along, he saw a man blind from birth. 2 His disciples asked him, "Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?"

3 "Neither this man nor his parents sinned," said Jesus, "but this happened so that the work of God might be displayed in his life. 4 As long as it is day, we must do the work of him who sent me. Night is coming, when no one can work. 5 While I am in the world, I am the light of the world."
NIV

This passage interprets itself! When Jesus said "as long as it is day", he was really saying, as long as I am here in your midst -- as long as I'm with you. Verse 5 affirms this interpretation. In other words, as long as Jesus is in the world, he is the exceedingly bright and glorious [DAY]LIGHT of the world! (See Isa 9:2; 30:26; 49:6; 60:1-3; Lk 2:23; Jn 1:14, etc.)

Also,

John 12:35-36
35 Then Jesus told them, "You are going to have the light just a little while longer. Walk while you have the light, before darkness overtakes you. The man who walks in the dark does not know where he is going. 36 Put your trust in the light while you have it, so that you may become sons of light." When he had finished speaking, Jesus left and hid himself from them.
NIV

There's a companion passage of sorts that bears this truth out also:

Luke 17:20-24
Being asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, he answered them, "The kingdom of God is not coming with signs to be observed, 21 nor will they say, 'Look, here it is!' or 'There!' for behold, the kingdom of God is in the midst of you."
22 And he said to the disciples, "The days are coming when you will desire to see one of the days of the Son of Man, and you will not see it. 23 And they will say to you, 'Look, there!' or 'Look, here!' Do not go out or follow them. 24 For as the lightning flashes and lights up the sky from one side to the other, so will the Son of Man be in his day.
ESV

The Messiah in the OT is also called the "sun of righteousness" (Mal 4:2) (See also Lk 1:78; 2Pet 1:19) And He is also called the Bright Morning Star ( Rev 22:16). Re this last passage, see also Num 24:17; Mat 2:2)

So, yes, "another day" in Hebrews 4 is clearly alluding to the Light of the World -- it's alluding to the Day of the Son of Man, in which all true believers find their true and eternal spiritual rest -- a rest infinitely greater than any mere observance of a calendar day, which was only but a shadow of the substance. This "another day" to which the writer speaks cannot be alluding to 7th day Sabbath; for the Jews already had THAT day! THAT day had been given to them in the wilderness in Exodus 16. "Another day" is clearly a different day -- most importantly a different day in kind.

Don't forget: God's elect have been effectually called out of the kingdom of darkness (the night) and translated into the kingdom of light (the day). See Col 1:12-13. Are not all born again believers sons of the light and sons of the day (1Thess 5:5). How in the world could any of us be called "sons of the light" if Jesus were not Light of the world? Likewise, how could any of us be called "sons of the day" if Jesus were not the Day -- if he were not the Sun of Righteousness or the bright Morning Star?

 

[Leaf473]

Leaf, does this answer the question I asked?

Can you please quote the scripture where it says traveling only a days journey on the Sabbath is an ordinance in the law of Moses. I don’t think you have established this point yet.

Are you asking if my post answered the question you asked? If so, No, it doesn't.

But my post was not intended to answer your question, it was intended to clarify what you are asking.

The phrase "a days journey on the Sabbath" does not occur in the King James Bible. So No, there is no scripture that says traveling only a days journey on the Sabbath is an ordinance in the law of Moses.

The phrase "a sabbath day's journey" does occur, though not as part of an imperative.

That's why I was asking for clarification.

The Peace of the Lord be with you always!