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We are to call out and judge false teachers.

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Charles Spurgeon's warnings to pastors who won't call out false teachers.

There is a difference between our leaders who've fallen and failed vs those who know they are doing wrong and yet deceive and lead astray others.
Kenneth Copeland is the worst of these. Joel Osteen and his wife. Joyce Meyers who has no business in front of any church. She even sells bibles with her name on the front!
Todd White. A grown man who dresses like a teenager and cries (falsely) at the drop of a hat.
 

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Charles Spurgeon's warnings to pastors who won't call out false teachers.

There is a difference between our leaders who've fallen and failed vs those who know they are doing wrong and yet deceive and lead astray others.
Kenneth Copeland is the worst of these. Joel Osteen and his wife. Joyce Meyers who has no business in front of any church. She even sells bibles with her name on the front!
Todd White. A grown man who dresses like a teenager and cries (falsely) at the drop of a hat.
There are alot of phony preachers. For many, it's an easy way to make a living....they are time-servers.
 
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Another problem is that many people and "Christians" are dumb enough to believe them!
This shows they rarely open their bible, never learned, and simply believe b/c someone has "pastor/preacher/priest" with their name they are 100% correct on everything and to never be confronted or questioned.
 
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Another problem is that many people and "Christians" are dumb enough to believe them!
Simply seeking like minds as humans are prone to doing. Look at social media. Worldly ways such as this are not of the Kingdom. Those of the Kingdom are a counter-culture, revolutionaries to the traditional ways of man.
 
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Charles Spurgeon's warnings to pastors who won't call out false teachers.

There is a difference between our leaders who've fallen and failed vs those who know they are doing wrong and yet deceive and lead astray others.
Kenneth Copeland is the worst of these. Joel Osteen and his wife. Joyce Meyers who has no business in front of any church. She even sells bibles with her name on the front!
Todd White. A grown man who dresses like a teenager and cries (falsely) at the drop of a hat.
Spurgen himself was a Protestant, so that would be the pot calling the kettle black.
What I found in my search was the further back you go into history, the closer you come to God's Truth.
 
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That's a good point.

Let God be true, and every human being a liar. As it is written: “So that you may be proved right when you speak and prevail when you judge.”(Romans 3:4)

Every man is a heretic, a liar, and doesn't get it.

Since we can't get two denominations to agree on what the testimony is, in its entirety, it is false.

There is no need to state the names, everyone is wrong, and history has continued to progress - the captivity is upon us, and we do not see it.

That's basically, what I got from listening to the video in context of the multi-traditional condition the church is currently in.
 
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Another problem is that many people and "Christians" are dumb enough to believe them!
This shows they rarely open their bible, never learned, and simply believe b/c someone has "pastor/preacher/priest" with their name they are 100% correct on everything and to never be confronted or questioned.


indeed that is very sad -- prayers needed.
 
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Spurgen himself was a Protestant, so that would be the pot calling the kettle black.
What I found in my search was the further back you go into history, the closer you come to God's Truth.


No doubt further back in history the closer you come to the NT church. Just like the further back you went in history at the time of Christ - the closer you came to the Nation-Church started by God at Sinai. But in both examples there were periods of reformation and revival that later lapse back then again - spring back to life again.
 
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Too many unspiritual preachers out there. People love a good orator. They'll soak up whatever they tell them. It's a shame that people don't seek the truth in Jesus (I am the Way, the Truth and Life) or the Holy Spirit. God warns us all through the bible not to trust man.
 
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Luke 16:15 And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God.

James 1:27 Pure and undefiled religion before our God and Father is this: to care for orphans and widows in their distress, and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.

Romans 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
 
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Simply seeking like minds as humans are prone to doing. Look at social media. Worldly ways such as this are not of the Kingdom. Those of the Kingdom are a counter-culture, revolutionaries to the traditional ways of man.
Social media is horrible for this world.
 
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Charles Spurgeon's warnings to pastors who won't call out false teachers.

There is a difference between our leaders who've fallen and failed vs those who know they are doing wrong and yet deceive and lead astray others.
Kenneth Copeland is the worst of these. Joel Osteen and his wife. Joyce Meyers who has no business in front of any church. She even sells bibles with her name on the front!
Todd White. A grown man who dresses like a teenager and cries (falsely) at the drop of a hat.

I have never sat and listened to these preachers, so I don't know what they teach. But they still present, and represent Christ, as such, they are forwarding God's Kingdom. Often in much bigger ways to us, i.e. on TV.

Php 1:15-18 Some indeed preach Christ even from envy and strife, and some also from goodwill:.... What then? Only that in every way, whether in pretense or in truth, Christ is preached; and in this I rejoice, yes, and will rejoice.

The bible tells us to be slow to judge other's motives:

1Co 4:5 Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord comes, who will both bring to light the hidden things of darkness and reveal the counsels of the hearts. Then each one's praise will come from God.

I know my wife actually enjoys Joyce Myer and gets some good nuggets of truth from God's word through it.
 
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I haven't quoted you.
Copeland, Osteen, and Meyers do NOT represent God. The first two push Word of Faith (If you believe something you can be like God and make it happen!) and Prosperity Gospel nonsense.
Meyers is not her right role as God commands and heresy at putting her name on the Bible's cover.
She is not of God.
 
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Only if it is expected to be one sided. But it does allow the minority thinkers to think they are a majority based on likes :)
Who are the majority and minority according to you?
I have found a couple of non-main stream social media sites that are much better. All the rest are owned by the Left and after overturning Roe and their reactions we know what side they are on.
Pelosi and Biden "claim" to be Catholic but are pro-unborn baby murder. Therefore, NOT Catholic.
The Bible lists the requirements for a pastor and elder. "Husband of one wife" a woman can never be.
 
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