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[Hans Blaster]

Consciousness - Wikipedia



" Despite millennia of analyses, definitions, explanations and debates by philosophers
and scientists, consciousness remains puzzling and controversial,

[2] being "at once the most familiar and [also the] most mysterious aspect of our lives".

[3] Perhaps the only widely agreed notion about the topic is the intuition that consciousness exists.

Consciousness is clearly a phenomena that has been detected and is being studied. I'm not quite sure what your point is. The only things that have exhibited consciousness are things with brains.

 

[Semper-Fi]

So the theory of evolution is not even a theory, but a hypothesis. ok

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

So the theory of evolution is not even a theory, but a hypothesis. ok

No, not at all. The theory of evolution is most definitely a theory, hence why it is called the THEORY of evolution.
Theories are called theories in science for a reason, and a lot more people on this website need to learn that fact.

 

[Semper-Fi]

The only things that have exhibited consciousness are things with brains.

It has been detected in Humans, they have not discovered animals having Consciousness.

 

[Hans Blaster]

The earliest roots in the history of science can be traced to Ancient Egypt
and Mesopotamia in around 3000 to 1200 BCE.[3][4

The "bible quote" you included has only the slimmest resemblance to what you alleged the quote was:

You wrote that it was

When man, in the name of science, denies—or by indifference,
ignores—his Maker, he blinds his mind to what he is, why he is,
where he is going, and what is the way. (Matthew 11:25)

This does not match the pop-up quote from this sites system which shows a quote from Jesus in which he praises "the Father" for concealing things from the wise and showing them to the childlike.

There is nothing in that verse that implies that Jesus is addressing the proto-science investigators. If you actually read the following verses (I know that goes against the whole principle of weaponizing half sentences out of context, but oh well) its pretty clear that Jesus is talking about the "wise and learned" religious authorities and not those that have figured out that the heart is for pumping blood.

 

[Semper-Fi]

No, not at all. The theory of evolution is most definitely a theory, hence why it is called the THEORY of evolution.

So the theory of evolutions first step, how the first life form started, is an hypothesis.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

So the theory of evolutions first step, how the first life form started, is an hypothesis.

No, the theory of evolution is not contingent on abiogenesis being true or not. Abiogenesis could be absolutely and unequivocally be shown to be false and wrong tomorrow... but the theory of evolution will stand as being factual and true.
Evolution is how life evolved, not how it started. The theory of evolution only needs there to be life, it doesn't need to know exactly how that first lifeform came about.

Get me?

 

[Semper-Fi]

Semper-Fi said: ↑
When man, in the name of science, denies—or by indifference,
ignores—his Maker, he blinds his mind to what he is, why he is,
where he is going, and what is the way. (Matthew 11:25)

There is nothing in that verse that implies that Jesus
is addressing the proto-science investigators.

The point of that end paragraph was that humans have blinded there
eyes from believing that there could be a God, and has a purpose for us.
That Consciousness could be "the spirit in man", given to us by God,
imparted in the womb. Ecclesiastes 11:5

I was giving thanks that He has reveled things to me in His Word.
The bible says He reveals things unto babes, or children like, with
open minds, without any preconceived notions, a learnable blank slate.
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Besides "The Spirit in Man", God can also give His "Holy Spirit" Luke 11:13

"But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God:
for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them,
because they are spiritually discerned. 1 Corinthians 2:14

"God is a Spirit: and they that worship him
must worship him in spirit and in truth."

The "bible quote" you included has only the slimmest
resemblance to what you alleged the quote was:

Hear are a couple verses you would be looking for 2 TIMOTHY 3:1-7

 

[AV1611VET]

Science didn't exist when "Matthew" wrote his gospel,

What's this then?

Daniel 1:4a Children in whom was no blemish, but well favoured, and skilful in all wisdom, and cunning in knowledge, and understanding science,

 

[AV1611VET]

Theories are called theories in science for a reason, and a lot more people on this website need to learn that fact.

Ya -- because they like it more than others.

After all, you can't give a Nobel prize to every Larry, Curly, and Moe that comes up with a hypothesis; so one has to stand out above all the others, doesn't it?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

What's this then?

Daniel 1:4a Children in whom was no blemish, but well favoured, and skilful in all wisdom, and cunning in knowledge, and understanding science,

You insistence on using the KJV translation of the Bible.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Ya -- because they like it more than others.

After all, you can't give a Nobel prize to every Larry, Curly, and Moe that comes up with a hypothesis; so one has to stand out above all the others, doesn't it?

All the time spent on this website and you still don't get what the difference between a scientific hypothesis and a scientific theory is.
Amazing.

 

[Hans Blaster]

What's this then?

Daniel 1:4a Children in whom was no blemish, but well favoured, and skilful in all wisdom, and cunning in knowledge, and understanding science,

It's you misusing an old translation to play word games with a word (science) that acquired its modern meaning more than 200 years later. It is not a word that appears here in modern (late 19th century onward) translations.

Quit being so dishonest about the word science.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Semper-Fi said: ↑
When man, in the name of science, denies—or by indifference,
ignores—his Maker, he blinds his mind to what he is, why he is,
where he is going, and what is the way. (Matthew 11:25)



The point of that end paragraph was that humans have blinded there
eyes from believing that there could be a God, and has a purpose for us.
That Consciousness could be "the spirit in man", given to us by God,
imparted in the womb. Ecclesiastes 11:5

I was giving thanks that He has reveled things to me in His Word.
The bible says He reveals things unto babes, or children like, with
open minds, without any preconceived notions, a learnable blank slate.
-

Besides "The Spirit in Man", God can also give His "Holy Spirit" Luke 11:13

"But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God:
for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them,
because they are spiritually discerned. 1 Corinthians 2:14

"God is a Spirit: and they that worship him
must worship him in spirit and in truth."



Hear are a couple verses you would be looking for 2 TIMOTHY 3:1-7

I'm not really interested in your irrelevant bible quotations, preaching, and insults. They're all off-topic anyway.

 

[AV1611VET]

It's you misusing an old translation ...

That "old translation" calls Itself "quick."

Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

Do you even know what that means?

And, if perchance you should happen to ... do you know what that passage is saying?

 

[Hans Blaster]

That "old translation" calls Itself "quick."

Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

Do you even know what that means?

And, if perchance you should happen to ... do you know what that passage is saying?

Never had ***ANY*** interest in bible study and this isn't the place.

Your book means *NOTHING* to me.

 

[AV1611VET]

Never had ***ANY*** interest in bible study and this isn't the place.

But you're interested enough to call It an "old translation," aren't you?

In other words, all you see is "1611," and your academic discipline shuts everything else off, doesn't it?

Some people just like to look at the pictures, don't they?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

But you're interested enough to call It an "old translation," aren't you?

In other words, all you see is "1611," and your academic discipline shuts everything else off, doesn't it?

Some people just like to look at the pictures, don't they?

What do you think the 1611 means?

 

[ottawak]

Never had ***ANY*** interest in bible study and this isn't the place.

Your book means *NOTHING* to me.

And if you are talking about Bible scholarship rather than Bible "study" it has no place at all.

 

[AV1611VET]

What do you think the 1611 means?

What do you think "quick" means?