The Left is Rallying to Take Your Guns Again

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“We must abolish the filibuster and pass gun-safety legislation now,” said Sen. Bernard Sanders, an independent and self-described socialist from Vermont. “No one in America needs an AR-15. How many more children, mothers and fathers need to be murdered in cold blood before the Senate has the guts to ban assault weapons and take on the NRA?”

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“I’m sick and tired of it,” Mr. Biden said. “We have to act. And don’t tell me we can’t have an impact on this carnage. I spent my career as a senator and vice president working to pass common-sense gun laws."

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Then there is this riotous stunt:

It was difficult to understand Mr. O’Rourke, who was not wearing a microphone, but his comments included: “This is totally predictable” and “You are doing nothing.”

Those on stage pushed back, telling him to sit down and accusing him of pulling a political stunt.

“You are out of line and an embarrassment,” said Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick.

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[dogs4thewin]

“We must abolish the filibuster and pass gun-safety legislation now,” said Sen. Bernard Sanders, an independent and self-described socialist from Vermont. “No one in America needs an AR-15. How many more children, mothers and fathers need to be murdered in cold blood before the Senate has the guts to ban assault weapons and take on the NRA?”

Schumer admits gun-control push will fail, hopes for bipartisan compromise

“I’m sick and tired of it,” Mr. Biden said. “We have to act. And don’t tell me we can’t have an impact on this carnage. I spent my career as a senator and vice president working to pass common-sense gun laws."

Biden demands lawmakers ‘stand up to the gun lobby’ after Texas school shooting

Then there is this riotous stunt:

It was difficult to understand Mr. O’Rourke, who was not wearing a microphone, but his comments included: “This is totally predictable” and “You are doing nothing.”

Those on stage pushed back, telling him to sit down and accusing him of pulling a political stunt.

“You are out of line and an embarrassment,” said Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick.

Beto O’Rourke crashes governor’s press conference on Texas school shooting

and yet most gun deaths are not caused by ARS but hand guns.

 

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and yet most gun deaths are not caused by ARS but hand guns.

It makes one wonder why politicians who would work to subvert the Constitution have such a great fear of firearms that were designed to fight Tyranny.

 

[dogs4thewin]

It makes one wonder why politicians who would work to undermine the Constitution have such a great fear of firearms that were designed to fight Tyranny.

amen why would they be worried if they did not plan to do anything? Particularly since most people who die as a result of guns are either by their own hand or in the course of another crime they do not care anynow and often are not legally allowed to process guns.

 

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amen why would they be worried if they did not plan to do anything? Particularly since most people who die as a result of guns are either by their own hand or in the course of another crime they do not care anynow and often are not legally allowed to process guns.

It makes one wonder why some on the Left, who ignore that Bill of Rights, are so determined to take away the law abiding American's defense against those who are armed, and disregard the law.

 

[HARK!]

I'm watching this SCOTUS case:

Docket for 20-843

Hopefully we can restore some common sense measures for New Yorkers to defend themselves enough to buy groceries.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

As I touched on in another thread...

None of these proposed rules (I agree with some, disagree with others) are going to have the dramatic effect that some gun control advocates think they will have.

Even for the ones I agree with...like universal background checks, I wouldn't expect that to cause any notable shift in the numbers before 2050 tbh.

Many staunch gun control advocates lay out this precept or notion that "if we just do what England did, our numbers will resemble theirs in a few years". That's simply not the case.

 

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Many staunch gun control advocates lay out this precept or notion that "if we just do what England did, our numbers will resemble theirs in a few years". That's simply not the case.

John R. Lott demonstrated this.

 

[wonderkins]

As I touched on in another thread...

None of these proposed rules (I agree with some, disagree with others) are going to have the dramatic effect that some gun control advocates think they will have.

Even for the ones I agree with...like universal background checks, I wouldn't expect that to cause any notable shift in the numbers before 2050 tbh.

Many staunch gun control advocates lay out this precept or notion that "if we just do what England did, our numbers will resemble theirs in a few years". That's simply not the case.

There is already background checks. You can't buy a gun without one (even at gun shows). Why do people push for something that's already there?

 

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You can't buy a gun without one (even at gun shows). Why do people push for something that's already there?

That depends on which state you're in. I bought a shotgun at a gun show in a Liberal state; and I most certainly had to have it cleared through NICS. That Liberal state, with draconian gun laws, also had very high murder rates.

Of course criminals can always break into the homes of the law abiding, and steal their guns.

 

[LeafByNiggle]

It makes one wonder why politicians who would work to subvert the Constitution have such a great fear of firearms that were designed to fight Tyranny.

How many tyrants have gun owners in the US overthrown? And while we have been ready to overthrow a tyrant with handguns, how many innocent Americans have been killed by guns? I suppose having more than one mass shooting per day is just the price we need to pay to maintain that readiness to overthrow a tyrant.

That Liberal state, with draconian gun laws, also had very high murder rates.

This shows what false conclusions one can reach by interchanging cause and effect. It is not liberal draconian gun laws that cause high murder rates. It is high murder rates that cause draconian gun laws.

As for "subverting the Constitution", the 2nd amendment is not serving the common good. It would be a blessing to repeal it. When you subvert something that is evil, you do good.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Nobody is coming to take your guns away. Nobody you've quoted has advocated taking your guns away.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Well, here's one gun I'm glad they took...

Texas teen arrested at school with pistol and toy AR-15 day after Uvalde shooting

 

[essentialsaltes]

Texas teen arrested at school with pistol and toy AR-15 day after Uvalde shooting

This is the hideous future liberals want.

 

[HARK!]

How many tyrants have gun owners in the US overthrown?

How many have we needed to overthrow?

Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century: 56 million.

Gun Control History

 

[HARK!]

Nobody is coming to take your guns away. Nobody you've quoted has advocated taking your guns away.

“No one in America needs an AR-15." ~ Sen. Bernard Sanders

What does this statement mean in the Liberal's mind?

I saw what it meant in CA, after they promised that registration would not lead to confiscation.

They lied. At least Bernie is being up front with his treasonous statements.

 

[LeafByNiggle]

How many have we needed to overthrow?

Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century: 56 million.

Gun Control History

The question remains, how effective has the 2nd amendment been in overthrowing tyrants? Answer: zero. If we have not needed to overthrow a tyrant with handguns in 200 years, the chances of needing to overthrow a tyrant with handguns in the next 200 years is vanishingly small. And to provide for this vanishingly small chance, we are paying with the lives of over 40,000 of our citizens every year.

 

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The question remains, how effective has the 2nd amendment been in overthrowing tyrants? Answer: zero.

"Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretense, raised in the United States. A military force, at the command of Congress, can execute no laws, but such as the people perceive to be just and constitutional; for they will possess the power, and jealousy will instantly inspire the inclination, to resist the execution of a law which appears to them unjust and oppressive." — Noah Webster

"The militia is the natural defense of a free country against foreign invasions, domestic insurrections, and domestic usurpations of power by rulers. The right of citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered as the palladium of liberties of the republic, since it offers a strong moral check against the usurpation and arbitrary power of rulers, and will generally, even if these are successful in the first instance, enable the people to resist and triumph over them." — U.S. Supreme Court Justice Joseph


"...to disarm the people - that was the best and most effectual way to enslave them." (George Mason, 3 Elliot, Debates at 380)

"Americans have the right and advantage of being armed - unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms." (James Madison, The Federalist Papers #46 at 243-244)

"The right of the people to keep and bear...arms shall not be infringed. A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the best and most natural defense of a free country..." (James Madison, I Annals of Congress 434 [June 8, 1789])

"What, Sir, is the use of a militia? It is to prevent the establishment of a standing army, the bane of liberty.... Whenever Governments mean to invade the rights and liberties of the people, they always attempt to destroy the militia, in order to raise an army upon their ruins." (Rep. Elbridge Gerry of Massachusetts, spoken during floor debate over the Second Amendment [ I Annals of Congress at 750 {August 17, 1789}])

"The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered, as the palladium of the liberties of a republic; since it offers a strong moral check against the usurpation and arbitrary power of rulers; and will generally, even if these are successful in the first instance, enable the people to resist and triumph over them. And yet, though this truth would seem so clear, and the importance of a well regulated militia would seem so undeniable, it cannot be disguised, that among the American people there is a growing indifference to any system of militia discipline, and a strong disposition, from a sense of its burthens, to be rid of all regulations. How it is practicable to keep the people duly armed without some organization, it is difficult to see. There is certainly no small danger, that indifference may lead to disgust, and disgust to contempt; and thus gradually undermine all the protection intended by this clause of our national bill of rights." (Joseph Story, Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States; With a Preliminary Review of the Constitutional History of the Colonies and States before the Adoption of the Constitution [Boston, 1833])

 

[cow451]

It makes one wonder why politicians who would work to subvert the Constitution have such a great fear of firearms that were designed to fight Tyranny.

The founding fathers had flintlocks. Gimme a flipping break.

 

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The founding fathers had flintlocks. Gimme a flipping break.

The Founding Fathers had firearms that were matched to that of the British Army.

The AR-15 today, is compatible with my grand daddy's flintlock.