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What denominations mostly believe in soul sleep? From my experience, the only ones that does is SDA.
Interesting! I know very little about them.Christadelphians also.
What Do Christadelphians Believe and Practice?
Christian mortalism - Wikipedia.
I think people have different definitions of soul sleep so that term might mean different things to different people.What denominations mostly believe in soul sleep? From my experience, the only ones that does is SDA.
What denominations mostly believe in soul sleep? From my experience, the only ones that does is SDA.
SDA's do not believe in soul sleep. they believe you ARE a soul you do not have one.What denominations mostly believe in soul sleep? From my experience, the only ones that does is SDA.
Thanks for the info!SDA's do not believe in soul sleep. they believe you ARE a soul you do not have one.
The Jews are soul sleepers, soul sleep is the condition in death before Christ came.
So in other words, the dead currently experience nothingness? The wicked will eventually be annihilated?I think people have different definitions of soul sleep so that term might mean different things to different people.
The SDA's believe when you die you are dead (sleep) Ecclesiastes 12:7 James 2:26 and when Jesus comes those in Christ will meet Him in the air for everlasting life 1 Thessalonians 4:16, 17 . Those who are not in Christ for everlasting condemnation (death).
cremated or perish is the word I like to use.So in other words, the dead currently experience nothingness? The wicked will eventually be annihilated?
So in other words, the dead currently experience nothingness? The wicked will eventually be annihilated?
Christadelphians also.
What Do Christadelphians Believe and Practice?
Christian mortalism - Wikipedia.
Interesting! I know very little about them.
how is that?I have to stress I think the traditional doctrine of the Catholic, Orthodox and Protestant churches is much more on-point here.
Sheol & Hades are not the grave. it is a place of Darkness, a holding cell a jail. Jude 1:6, And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their proper dwelling--these he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day.I am pretty sure JW use the same term “soul sleep” but applies it to a different meaning.
My friend @LoveGodsWord outlined very clearly with scripture what happens when you die so I am going to repeat it for reference:
THE TRUTH ABOUT THE STATE OF THE DEAD - WHAT DOES THE BIBLE SAY?
Hi all hope for a friendly discussion please based on the scriptures.
I see that there seems to be some confusion on what the scriptures actually teach on what happens when we die. So what is the state of the dead? Do we remain dead until the second coming where there the the scriptures teach those who have died in Christ will be resurrected? Or do we go to heaven when we die? These of course are contradictions in themselves.
According to the scriptures death is referred to by Jesus as a sleep which is a metaphor for death that we awake from at the second coming's resurrection. So what does the bible teach on the state of the dead? I will post some of the scriptures on what I believe happens when we die and we can investigate all of the other scriptures on what others might think it means (hoping for friendly discussion please)
WHAT DOES JESUS SAY ABOUT THE STATE OF THE DEAD OR WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE DIE?
JOHN 11:11-13 11, These things said he: and after that he saith unto them, OUR FRIEND LAZARUS SLEEPS; BUT I GO, THAT I MAY AWAKE HIM OUT OF SLEEP. 12, Then said his disciples, Lord, if he sleep, he shall do well. 13, HOWBEIT JESUS SPAKE OF HIS DEATH: but they thought that he had spoken of taking of rest in sleep. 14, Then said JESUS UNTO THEM PLAINLY, LAZARUS IS DEAD.
Jesus says that death is like a sleep and a metaphor for death we wake up out from when he resurrects us. This is a key scripture here so I separated this scripture from all the scriptures provided below from the old and new testaments that describe what happens when we die...
(Note: I might ask some questions here but I am not going to provide the answers on purpose here because it is best if you can prayerfully ask God and see the answers in the scriptures provided for yourself)...
Here is a list of a lot of scriptures you may want to investigate on the topic of the state of the dead or soul sleep or what happens when we die according to the scriptures if your interested and have some time if this topic is new to you...
WHAT DOES THE BIBLE SAY ON WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE DIE?
(you find the answers prayerfully from the scriptures below)
Death is referred to as a sleep which is a metaphor for death in scripture...
A.: [To be dead or in death is referred to as a sleep, asleep, sleepeth]Deuteronomy 31:16; 2 Samuel 7:12; Job 3:13, 7:21, 14:12; 1 Kings 1:21, 2:10, 11:21,43, 14:20,31, 15:8,24, 16:6,28, 22:40,50; 2 Kings 8:24, 10:35, 13:9,13, 14:16,22,29, 15:7,22,38, 16:20, 20:21, 21:18, 24:6; 2 Chronicles 9:31, 12:16, 14:1, 16:13, 21:1, 26:2,23, 27:9, 28:27, 32:33, 33:20; Job 14:12; Psalms 13:3; Matthew 27:52; John 11:11-13; Acts 7:60, 13:36; 1 Corinthians 15:6,18,20,51; 1 Thessalonians 4:13-15; 2 Peter 3:4; [awake] Job 14:12; Psalms 17:15; Isaiah 26:19; Daniel 12:2; John 11:11-13; [grave/bed] Job 17:13; Psalms 139:8; Luke 17:34; [fathers and prophets are dead/asleep] John 6:49,58, 8:52,53; Acts 2:29,34, 13:36; Hebrews 11:4,13,16,40
The dead do not know anything in sleep until Jesus returns...
B.: [The dead knowing nothing] Genesis 27:4, 45:28; Ruth 1:17; Job 3:17-19, 7:8-10, 14:21, 21:32; 2 Kings 22:20; 2 Chronicles 34:28; Psalms 6:5, 28:1, 31:17, 88:4,10,11, 115:17, 143:7, 146:4; Ecclesiastes 9:4,5,6,10; Isaiah 14:11, 38:18; [reserved] 2 Peter 2:9; [He goes to prepare a place, so that when He comes again, 2nd Advent, He will raise us and receive us] John 14:2-3
When we die we go to the grave...
C.: [The dead are in the grave/s], sepulchre/s, tomb/s, pit/s, hell [ie Hb: sheol; Gr: hades; grave]]Genesis 23:6, 35:20, 37:35, 44:29,31, 50:5; Exodus 14:11; Numbers 16:30, 19:16,18; Deuteronomy 34:6; Judges 8:32, 1 Samuel 2:6, 10:2; 2 Samuel 3:32, 4:10, 17:23, 19:37, 21:14, 22:6; 1 Kings 2:6,9, 13:22,30,31, 14:13; 2 Kings 9:28, 13:21, 21:26, 22:20, 23:6,16,17,30; 2 Chronicles 16:14, 21:20, 24:25, 28:27, 32:33, 34:4,28, 35:24; Nehemiah 2:3,5, 3:16; Job 3:17-19,22, 5:26, 7:8-10, 10:19, 11:8, 14:12-14,21, 17:1,13,16, 21:13,23-32, 24:19, 26:6, 30:24, 33:22; Psalms 5:9, 6:5, 18:5, 28:1, 30:3, 31:17, 35:7, 49:14,15, 55:15, 86:13, 88:3,4,5-12, 89:48, 94:13, 115:17, 116:3, 139:8, 141:7, 143:7; Proverbs 1:12, 5:5, 7:27, 9:18, 15:11,24, 23:14, 27:20, 30:16; Ecclesiastes 6:6, 9:10; Song of Songs [Solomon] 8:6; Isaiah 5:14, 14:9,11,15,19, 22:16, 28:15,18, 38:10,18, 53:9, 57:9, 65:4; Jeremiah 5:16, 8:1, 26:23, 20:17; Ezekiel 26:20, 31:15-17, 32:18,21-27, 37:12,13, 39:11; Hosea 13:14; Amos 9:2; Jonah 2:2 [<- figurative, typological]; Nahum 1:14; Habakkuk 2:5; Matthew 8:8, 11:23, 23:27,29, 27:52,53,60,61,64,66, 28:8; Mark 5:2,3,5, 6:29, 15:46, 16:2,3,5,8; Luke 8:27, 10:15, 11:47,48, 23:53,55, 24:1,2,9,12,22,24; John 5:28, 11:31,38, 12:17, 19:41,42, 20:1-4,6,8,11; Acts 2:29,34, 7:16, 13:29,36; Romans 3:13; 1 Corinthians 15:55; Revelation 1:18, 11:9, 20:13,14
Righteous and dead in Christ are raised to life at the second coming...
D.: [Those in Christ resurrected from the grave/death/sleep at the second coming]1 Thessalonians 4:13-17; 1 Corinthians 15:50-55; Philippians 3:10-11; Danial 12:2
Wicked resurrected to the 2nd death...
E.: [2nd death from which there is no life, nor resurrection, nor return - annihilation] Psalms 9:17; Matthew 5:22,29,30, 10:28, 18:9, 23:15,33; Mark 9:43,45,47; Luke 12:5; 2 Thessalonians 1:9; James 3:6; Revelation 2:11, 20:6,14, 21:8
The wicked in the second death are destroyed and forever...
F.: [sin/sinners gone forever, cut off, perished, no more, destroyed, passed away, etc] Job 20:26,29, 31:2-3; Psalms 7:9, 9:17, 11:6, 21:9, 37:10, 37:20, 37:28,38, 68:2, 69:28, 75:8,10, 92:7,9, 104:35, 106:18, 112:10, 145:20; Proverbs 2:22, 10:25,28,30, 12:7, 13:9, 14:11, 24:20; Ezekiel 18:4, 18:20; Isaiah 13:9, 25:8, 66:17,24; Nahum 1:10; Obadiah 1:16; Zephaniah 1:2-3; Malachi 4:1; Matthew 10:28; John 3:16; Romans 6:23; Hebrews 6:8; James 1:15; 2 Peter 3:10; Revelation 7:17, 20:9, 21:4
John 3:16 says Perish or Everlasting Life [the wicked receive no such gift as everlasting life [there are no immortalized wicked anywhere and never will be], it is only a gift to the saved/just/righteous].
Additionally, it is the righteous who will dwell with everlasting burnings (Isaiah 33:14), for God is a consuming fire [to sin and of Love] (Deuteronomy 4:24, 9:3; Hebrews 12:29) and His ministers a flame of fire (Psalms 104:4; Hebrews 1:7) and His Throne of Fire (Daniel 7:9; Revelation 4:5) and His speech fire (2 Samuel 22:9; Psalms 18:8) for He is a purifying fire (Malachi 3:3) and it is they who have the victory over sin who stand upon the sea of glass mingled with fire (Revelation 15:2), and will be as the burning bush which was not consumed (Exodus 3:3), not the wicked [they are burnt up into smoke and ashes at the meeting out of Judgment, they are perished.
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it is the belief that when a person dies, they are unconscious and unaware of what is going in the universe. their soul goes to a place of Darkness and is dormant. It is the Jewish view of death.I have no idea what soul sleep is so I guess not Baptist nor RCA.
Interesting. I've read things from sources I trust that say you don't go to heaven when you die, you wait for the Resurrection. But I haven't really done too much research into the topic. It's not ever really something discussed at churches I've attended. We focus on what Christ did yesterday, what he will do today while we are here on earth, & what he will eventually do when he reigns forever. We do not dwell on whatever the physically dead are doing. Although I'm sure there's something in the churchs' doctrine about it.it is the belief that when a person dies, they are unconscious and unaware of what is going in the universe. their soul goes to a place of Darkness and is dormant. It is the Jewish view of death.
SDA's and JW have a modified view of this, they believe you are unconscious, but do not have a soul you are one, as such when you die the soul (person) goes down to the grave, dust to dust, and waits for the resurrection.
your understanding reflects the SDA, JW view, but it is not soul sleep.Interesting. I've read things from sources I trust that say you don't go to heaven when you die, you wait for the Resurrection. But I haven't really done too much research into the topic. It's not ever really something discussed at churches I've attended. We focus on what Christ did yesterday, what he will do today while we are here on earth, & what he will eventually do when he reigns forever. We do not dwell on whatever the physically dead are doing. Although I'm sure there's something in the churchs' doctrine about it.