The tip of the ice berg

[Astrid]

Tool Use and Mental Well-Being

You didnt figure out why i said false / misleading?

Im pretty much aware of what parrots and corvids can do.

What does it have to do with belief in god?

 

[Astrid]

The mind is a powerful thing. I'm sure you've heard if you can believe it you can achieve it. I used to lift weights and I had to believe I was capable of making the lift before I attempted it. If I doubted it I would fail. If someone believes in something strongly enough it can affect them physically. If something is done by the power of the mind that doesn't necessarily negate that it was the way God chose to work.

No, bit it kinda thins it out.
" i believe i can" isnt just for believers, or for good.

 

[TLK Valentine]

The mind is a powerful thing. I'm sure you've heard if you can believe it you can achieve it. I used to lift weights and I had to believe I was capable of making the lift before I attempted it. If I doubted it I would fail. If someone believes in something strongly enough it can affect them physically. If something is done by the power of the mind that doesn't necessarily negate that it was the way God chose to work.

So... Were you lifting the weights, or was God?

Because the theology is problematic.

God cured your son of Asthma -- praise be.
Meanwhile, down the block, Ms. McCracken watched cancer eat her six-year-old daughter to the bone.

A God who does has to answer for the times when he doesn't...

 

[BPPLEE]

Can evolution explain how minds work? - Nature

 

[BPPLEE]

So... Were you lifting the weights, or was God?

Because the theology is problematic.

God cured your son of Asthma -- praise be.
Meanwhile, down the block, Ms. McCracken watched cancer eat her six-year-old daughter to the bone.

A God who does has to answer for the times when he doesn't...

That is difficult. Ms. McCraken's daughter is in Heaven now and not suffering anymore but I see your point. George Carlin said that he prayed to Joe Pesci and sometimes it worked and other times it didn't. I can't explain why some people get better and others don't. I have seen bad things happen to good people. A good book on the subject is Man's Search For Meaning https://www.amazon.com/Mans-Search-...p/0807014273/ref=asc_df_0807014273/?tag=hypro
Frankl was a prisoner in a concentration camp

 

[BPPLEE]

You didnt figure out why i said false / misleading?

Im pretty much aware of what parrots and corvids can do.

What does it have to do with belief in god?

Maybe this is closer to the point
Can evolution explain how minds work? - Nature

 

[AV1611VET]

If you graduated from high school and own a pair of shoes that's enough for AV.

We's edjicated fokes that hav callije degreas doant meen nuthan to them guis that hav thay degreas cause thays allwaz runin down Kent Hovind foar havin a degrea frum Patrit Unaversetee. oar if yu brought up Henry Morris, thay run him down to cawz hes juss ta inginear.

Thu moe wes edjacated, thu moe thay sae us shud no betor.

 

[AV1611VET]

God cured your son of Asthma -- praise be.
Meanwhile, down the block, Ms. McCracken watched cancer eat her six-year-old daughter to the bone.

Did Jesus heal EVERYBODY when he walked the earth?

When He healed the blind man, did He heal the guy "down the block" who had leprosy?

In your opinion, was He obligated to?

 

[BPPLEE]

We's edjicated fokes that hav callije degreas doant meen nuthan to them guis that hav thay degreas cause thays allwaz runin down Kent Hovind foar havin a degrea frum Patrit Unaversetee. oar if yu brought up Henry Morris, thay run him down to cawz hes juss ta inginear.

Thu moe wes edjacated, thu moe thay sae us shud no betor.

I would stay away from Kent Hovind

 

[Bungle_Bear]

We's edjicated fokes that hav callije degreas doant meen nuthan to them guis that hav thay degreas cause thays allwaz runin down Kent Hovind foar havin a degrea frum Patrit Unaversetee. oar if yu brought up Henry Morris, thay run him down to cawz hes juss ta inginear.

Thu moe wes edjacated, thu moe thay sae us shud no betor.

There's a very strong hint of regional discrimination in this sort of post. It's a form of linguistic racism.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

I would stay away from Kent Hovind

Very sound advice

 

[BPPLEE]

Did Jesus heal EVERYBODY when he walked the earth?

When He healed the blind man, did He heal the guy "down the block" who had leprosy?

In your opinion, was He obligated to?

If God healed everyone no one would ever die. He would have to heal people who suffer from old age. We live in a world corrupted by sin and that is the reason there's death and suffering. But this is one of those gotcha areas there are no easy answers to.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Did Jesus heal EVERYBODY when he walked the earth?

When He healed the blind man, did He heal the guy "down the block" who had leprosy?

In your opinion, was He obligated to?

To his credit, he tried... Luke 9:11 don't you know...

But I'll cut him some slack... after all, he was only human.

 

[AV1611VET]

I would stay away from Kent Hovind

I was using both ends of the spectrum here: Kent Hovind, and Henry M. Morris, who authored the footnotes in the Defender's Bible, which is full of technical notes.

It doesn't matter though, as the more educated a Christian is, the harder he falls in their eyes; as he "should know better."

They will look for the smallest thing ... anything ... to discredit us.

Kent Hovind = Patriot University
Henry Morris = just an engineer
Jonathan Sarfati = should know better

Et cetera.

 

[TLK Valentine]

If God healed everyone no one would ever die.

"Eternal life" would be a curse, wouldn't it?

He would have to heal people who suffer from old age.

How inconvenient -- if only there was a way he could be everywhere at once...

We live in a world corrupted by sin and that is the reason there's death and suffering.

Kinda thought doing something about that was the whole reason he came in the first place...

But this is one of those gotcha areas there are no easy answers to.

Indeed... look where easy answers have led...

 

[TLK Valentine]

I was using both ends of the spectrum here: Kent Hovind, and Henry M. Morris, who authored the footnotes in the Defender's Bible, which is full of technical notes.

Kudos to Morris for trying to improve the Bible.

It doesn't matter though, as the more educated a Christian is, the harder he falls in their eyes; as he "should know better."

They will look for the smallest thing ... anything ... to discredit us.

You discredit yourself, AV... are we supposed to pretend not to notice?

 

[ruthiesea]

How can I have medical evidence?

The person’s medical records would help.

 

[AV1611VET]

There's a very strong hint of regional discrimination in this sort of post. It's a form of linguistic racism.

Bummer, man!

Dig it ... I ain't no L7 with heavy hang ups, dude!

So let's mellow this trip and get back in the groove, cause this track is truckin' to being spaced out and down!

 

[BPPLEE]

I was using both ends of the spectrum here: Kent Hovind, and Henry M. Morris, who authored the footnotes in the Defender's Bible, which is full of technical notes.

It doesn't matter though, as the more educated a Christian is, the harder he falls in their eyes; as he "should know better."

They will look for the smallest thing ... anything ... to discredit us.

Kent Hovind = Patriot University
Henry Morris = just an engineer
Jonathan Sarfati = should know better

Et cetera.

Damned if you do damned if you don't?

 

[AV1611VET]

Very sound advice

Kent Hovind makes good points.

But a little leaven leveneth the whole lump, doesn't it?

Like a defective O-ring on a space shuttle?

I'd worry about your own skeletons, before going after ours.