The Danger of Creationism

[BPPLEE]

Some weren't just stupid they were ignorant. They didn't know how to do anything else. Ignorance is a lack of knowledge about something. These people lack knowledge, I am no longer ignorant about what you do and I suspected it from your comments

And this is quite interesting thank you all for your comments

 

[Astrid]

Some weren't just stupid they were ignorant. They didn't know how to do anything else. Ignorance is a lack of knowledge about something. These people lack knowledge, I am no longer ignorant about what you do and I suspected it from your comments

Did you see any danger in their ignorance?

 

[Astrid]

And this is quite interesting thank you all for your comments

Any time

 

[ottawak]

What is a theory?

A scientific theory is a systematic explanation of a body of scientific evidence. It must explain all of the related evience and be contradicted by none of it. (Note the difference between the use of the word "theory" in science and its use in popular speech.)

 

[BPPLEE]

Not quite as easily, but so is the change of biological forms over time.

Just as Newton and Einstein came up with explanations for how gravity works - a scientific theory to explain the facts of gravity, Darwin came up with a successful explanation for how biological forms change over time - a scientific theory to explain the facts.

Which can't be replicated. As you said it is a theory. Agreed

 

[ottawak]

Which can't be replicated. As you said it is a theory. Agreed

What do you mean by, "can't be repilcated?" Evolution, including speciation, has been observed.

 

[BPPLEE]

So you really *don't* know what ignorant means.

Do you really think most drivers think they can drive with out a plate? Or that crack is not going to cause them trouble? And driving around attracting attention of the fuzz while you have outstanding warrants isn't ignorant, it's stupid.

Stupid and ignorant aren't the same things. Until the last hour I was ignorant of your (former) profession, now you have informed me (and others). You are likely ignorant of my profession, but that doesn't make you stupid. (For the record, I am a scientist.)

Is it ignorant or stupid to believe that man won't hit you anymore if you go back to him? To believe it's a good idea to have more children when you can't feed the ones you have? To believe that bullets you shoot in the air do not come back down? Stupid yes but but it stems from ignorance

 

[Astrid]

Which can't be replicated. As you said it is a theory. Agreed

Not knowing what a theory is sure is an example of ignoracne.

Many theories are based onendlessly replicable observations.

The facts that support ToE are there
to obvserve. You want to know if there were dinsosaurs? Go look.
Youwant to know if the fossil record showsorganisms progressivbelychanging over time? Go look.
Wht partis your problem?
The idea thatthere is an explanation for what is observed?

Sure ToE COULD be wrong,
But thereis zero evidence that it is.

IF it were false, it ought to be massively wronhg, everything abouta it.
IF, say, YWC were so, thereought to be some signs of it,but therearent any.

I dont get what you are arguing for, or against.

 

[BPPLEE]

What do you mean by, "can't be repilcated?" Evolution, including speciation, has been observed.

Not molecules to man evolution. Yes evolution has been observed

 

[BPPLEE]

Not knowing what a theory is sure is an example of ignoracne.

Many theories are based onendlessly replicable observations.

The facts that support ToE are there
to obvserve. You want to know if there were dinsosaurs? Go look.
Youwant to know if the fossil record showsorganisms progressivbelychanging over time? Go look.
Wht partis your problem?
The idea thatthere is an explanation for what is observed?

Sure ToE COULD be wrong,
But thereis zero evidence that it is.

IF it were false, it ought to be massively wronhg, everything abouta it.
IF, say, YWC were so, thereought to be some signs of it,but therearent any.

I dont get what you are arguing for, or against.

What is YWC? I;ve heard of YEC but never said I believed it

 

[BPPLEE]

Not knowing what a theory is sure is an example of ignoracne.

Many theories are based onendlessly replicable observations.

The facts that support ToE are there
to obvserve. You want to know if there were dinsosaurs? Go look.
Youwant to know if the fossil record showsorganisms progressivbelychanging over time? Go look.
Wht partis your problem?
The idea thatthere is an explanation for what is observed?

Sure ToE COULD be wrong,
But thereis zero evidence that it is.

IF it were false, it ought to be massively wronhg, everything abouta it.
IF, say, YWC were so, thereought to be some signs of it,but therearent any.

I dont get what you are arguing for, or against.

Someone just explained quite well what a theory is

 

[Astrid]

Someone just explained quite well what a theory is

Why yes, and you see that all this time yhou were arguing without knowing what you were talking about. Do you get it that your bit about "repeatable" is also mistaken?

 

[BPPLEE]

Did you see any danger in their ignorance?

Yes. And they do a lot of STUPID things but it stems from their IGNORANCE

 

[Astrid]

What is YWC? I;ve heard of YEC but never said I believed it

its a typo. YEC

 

[Astrid]

Yes. And they do a lot of STUPID things but it stems from their IGNORANCE

Ok, we are onthe same page.

Do you also see how ignorance of basic science could also be a problem for society?

 

[ottawak]

Not molecules to man evolution. Yes evolution has been observed

So I'm still not clear about what your issue is. If you agree that evolution has been observed, then what is your problem with it? Is your complaint that there is no coherent theory of abiogenesis? Then why not talk about that instead of evolution?

 

[BPPLEE]

Why yes, and you see that all this time yhou were arguing without knowing what you were talking about

A theory is still a theory. The evidence suggests what will happen but until it happens it is still a theory. It may be very likely but it is still a theory

So you really *don't* know what ignorant means.

Do you really think most drivers think they can drive with out a plate? Or that crack is not going to cause them trouble? And driving around attracting attention of the fuzz while you have outstanding warrants isn't ignorant, it's stupid.

Stupid and ignorant aren't the same things. Until the last hour I was ignorant of your (former) profession, now you have informed me (and others). You are likely ignorant of my profession, but that doesn't make you stupid. (For the record, I am a scientist.)

I should have said IGNORANT people do STUPID things.

 

[Astrid]

Not molecules to man evolution. Yes evolution has been observed[/QUOTE}


the steps from single cellthrough mulit cellular to vertebrate to fishs to amphibian to reptile the mammal allthereto observe.

Youwant a time machine, or a 500 million year long video?

 

[BPPLEE]

Ok, we are onthe same page.

Do you also see how ignorance of basic science could also be a problem for society?

To not want to take a vaccine that you don't know the long term effects of and you don't feel has been adequately tested? I took it but others have a right not to. Being skeptical that someone know how life began? Why is that dangerous?

 

[Astrid]

A theory is still a theory. The evidence suggests what will happen but until it happens it is still a theory. It may be very likely but it is still a theory

.

I cant tell what point you aretryhing to make but-

You hae a lot more to learn about what a theory is or isnt before you start trying to teach us.