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Southwest Missouri high school teacher accused of using critical race theory loses job

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American schools have become so Liberal its sickening. Teaching white children that they are privileged based on the tone of their skin is racist in itself. Why are we even teaching children about CRT?. Also, slavery happened to white people too, but that's swept under the rug as it doesn't fit in line with the Liberal agenda.
 
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I don’t know what books they gave you but here in Texas our history books said nothing to that effect. Maybe there might’ve been a very few slaves that felt that way but many were trying to escape and flee to the North and the majority were too afraid to try. Now I get what your saying about whites not being responsible for it to an extent because it wasn’t whites that were going and capturing them in Africa but if they hadn’t been buying them then the South Africans wouldn’t have kept going to get more. I would also point out that the majority of whites in America were opposed to slavery and fought in the Civil War to free the slaves which is why the Union won the war. The Confederates were greatly outnumbered which is why they lost.

I bet those text books didn't teach you about the Barbary slave trade?.
 
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No I read about it much later. What’s your point?

Shouldn't children also be taught that their own ancestors were once slaves too?, it is part of white history (which is being erased). The reason they're not taught this is to keep white children in a constant 'sorry' state. It's wrong.
 
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This statement exercises the same stereotypical bigotry that led to white supremacy to begin with, condemn an entire group of millions based on the actions of a small minority within that group.

It was not a small minority; it was representative of the right as a whole. You should stop trying to rewrite history.
 
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American schools have become so Liberal its sickening. Teaching white children that they are privileged based on the tone of their skin is racist in itself.

Nobody is teaching this.
Why are we even teaching children about CRT?.

We're not.
 
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Shouldn't children also be taught that their own ancestors were once slaves too?, it is part of white history (which is being erased). The reason they're not taught this is to keep white children in a constant 'sorry' state. It's wrong.

That would be fine if there was a European history class in public schools but there’s not or at least there wasn’t when I was attending school. We pretty much had Texas History and American History so naturally Ottoman slavery wouldn’t be mentioned in those classes.
 
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It was not a small minority; it was representative of the right as a whole. You should stop trying to rewrite history.

You have absolutely no way of knowing that. Did you take a poll? Exactly how many right wing advocates supported that claim, can you give any sort of number?
 
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No, and that is a large failing of USA, you guys fight and bicker over these wedge issues. But don't really discuss policies or finances.

The wedge issues are critical to our culture and and we didn't used to fight so much over it until the left in this country started really trying to drive wedges and drive our culture into leftist ideology.

I think we do discuss fiscal policies and spending. We had large discussions over Burdens spending policies.

And we have had bug discussions of other policies as they come up such as the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, we have been discussing Ukraine. We discuss border policy, economic policy, trade policy.

I think the difference is that the wedge issues often stir up big emotions and a change of culture and personal freedom. Much more than a fiscal discussion does.

That is your opinion, but as I said, all online tests I have done, have told me I am centre right.

Your tests are wrong or left leaning.

would say it is pretty centerist for the majority of developed democratic western nations. USA is an extreme case. Not very representative of the western world.

That's because the western world has moved left in ideology and more socialistic in fiscal matters.

don't consider what Biden and Harris are doing is radical at all, they are going with the norm. Trump on the otherhand was extremely radical.

You think that way because you are a leftist. You are not center right.

Nothing wrong with telling kids its ok for people to be trans. We apparently need to nip discrimination in the bud at a young age

Yes it is because it confuses children at an age where they are learning. And as teens it comes at a time where they are often struggling to find themselves. They are extremely vulnerable.

It violates parental rights to teach their children the values they wish to instil. It creates serious mental health issues.

We have NO reason to teach kids it's okay to be trans. We don't have to tell them it's wrong either. The schools shouldn't be teaching ANYTHING about it because of the damage it does to people.

And I've about heard enough excuses on the bullying thing as a reason we have to teach this. No we have to teach kids it's wrong to bully anyone for any reason. There are all kinds of people in this world and and NO ONE should bully anyone not matter who they are or what they look like.

And schools quite frankly do a terrible job if this. It's all talk and no action.
 
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First you said



Then you said



In other words, the left is not for it, by your own admission.

The left does not want the things you claim they want.

The majority of the left does not want open borders. But there are those in the left that do.

Often the left in general supports policy that in effect is almost open borders. It's not quite all the way there, but it's awful close.

When you allow anyone and everyone in that claims asylum then tuelrn the lose into the country only to disappear and not not show up for any hearings in effect you have opened the borders. Then later state we should just make the citizens or create a path for that you have just opened the border. When you allow smugglers to bring children into the country and those kids stay then allow the parents to come later and create a citizen out of them you have just opened the border. When you create a pathway to citizenship for anyone who has snuck across the border and has been living illegally here for sometime, you have in effect opened the border. It's not quite as radical as just saying "hey anyone and everyone can come without restrictions", but it's very close.
 
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was the right who claimed Obama couldn't be an American citizen because he was black.

Citation needed.
It was the right who tried to outlaw gay marriage

It was the left who decided gays should be married. It was an attack on the institution of marriage and family. And we were concerned over the outcomes of this such as forcing religious organizations or religious people to allow gay marriage in their buildings and provide services for gay marriages in violation of their religious freedoms. We were told all they wanted was to be able to get married. They lied And guess what it happened.

But I don't care if gays get married, just don't force religious people and organizations to support it and provide for it.

And you believe businesses should be able to discriminate, despite your false claims to the contrary.

If it violates their religious freedoms then yes. This is another example how the left started the attacks.

You'd rather the insanity continued?

I'd rather the left stop the insanity.
 
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The Liberals. The same people who promote LGTBQ and BLM.

I do think you have a point that it would be beneficial to point out that whites were also slaves to other races. I don’t believe this is common knowledge.
 
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You have absolutely no way of knowing that. Did you take a poll?

According to polling from that era, over 70% of registered Republicans bought into that.

Exactly how many right wing advocates supported that claim, can you give any sort of number?

See above. The poll numbers regarding are ready to Google up.
 
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According to polling from that era, over 70% of registered Republicans bought into that.



See above. The pool numbers are ready to Google up.

Can you provide a link to your source?
 
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The majority of the left does not want open borders. But there are those in the left that do.

Often the left in general supports policy that in effect is almost open borders. It's not quite all the way there, but it's awful close.
It's not a left vs right thing. However in USA there is a difference between the Biden Democrat administration and the Trump Republican administration.

The Trump 2016 campaign was spearheaded with immigration promises.
Build a wall and make Mexico pay for it
Muslim ban

The wall was to be a hugely expensive project of which very little new wall was created, mostly just replacement of already existing barrier. This was funded by USA tax payers not Mexico.

The Muslim ban was rushed through, causing chaos at airports and was eventually blocked by the courts as being racist and unconstitutional. After several adjustments and tries, the Muslim ban eventually was allowed by the courts.

Trump appointed Stephen Miller a white nationalist as the head of immigration.
Olivia Troye tweeted that Stephen Miller, a senior adviser to former President Donald Trump, teamed up with “enablers” to undermine anyone trying to get the allies out by “devastating” the special immigrant visa system at the departments of State and Homeland Security.

“Stephen Miller would peddle his racist hysteria about Iraq & Afghanistan,” tweeted Troye. She described Pence as “fully aware” of the problem.


Trump was reported to have said
According to the aide, when the group came to discussing immigration from Africa, Trump asked why America would want immigrants from "all these sh$%hole countries" and that the U.S. should have more people coming in from places like Norway.

Privately, the president had often talked about fortifying a border wall with a water-filled trench, stocked with snakes or alligators, prompting aides to seek a cost estimate. He wanted the wall electrified, with spikes on top that could pierce human flesh. After publicly suggesting that soldiers shoot migrants if they threw rocks, the president backed off when his staff told him that was illegal. But later in a meeting, aides recalled, he suggested that they shoot migrants in the legs to slow them down. That’s not allowed either, they told him.

When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. […] They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people


Zero Tolerance policy and family separations
Under Trump admin there was the introduction of the zero tolerance policy at the Southern Border which led to families being separated, their children taken away and shipped across the USA country with very little documentation to allow families to be eventually reunited. This was an extremely cruel policy, destroying people's fundamental right to be a family and shifting the cost burden of raising those children to the USA taxpayer.

As elections approached The Trump admin public relations and Fox News ramped up coverage of the Southern Boarder, talking about an invasion, claiming there were drug dealers and Muslim terrorists.

Under the Biden administration all this drama went away.
  • The cruel practice of family separations was stopped
  • The racist Muslim ban was stopped
  • The financially irresponsible spending on the boarder wall was halted.
The immigration policies under the Biden Admin, seem to be humanistic, pragmatic and accepting of the realities that USA faces.
The immigration policies under the Trump Admin seemed to be highly geared for Optics, they were cruel, focused on blocking non whites, non christians, expensive, rushed and overly simplistic.
 
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Parents don't know what CRT is.
or... perhaps they do.

School authorities agree the lesson is valuable and not CRT, but hey parents are complaining.

critical theory permeates American education. the majority of school officials belong to the two camps at this point: one, the group that believes in CRT. two, the group that pretends to believe in it to protect themselves.

if you can't see "How Do I Benefit from Racial Privilege?" as based on CRT, then I think you buy into the ideas of CRT far enough that you don't see it any more. anyway, the actual point of the exercise had to do with reinforcing to students that if they gave the "wrong" answers that they would face bad consequences and to have them give the "right" answers. a white student can only say, "yes, I benefit" and a non-white student can only say, "no, I don't benefit but black people have it worse", etc.
 
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