Game over for the president

[Aldebaran]

Sometimes you have to wonder how on earth this country became the supper power! When so many Americans think education is threat to America.

The Chinese government probably uses the same argument when they defend the use of re-education camps.

 

[Aldebaran]

We need more people on both sides that value truth. Trump did no such thing. Read his speech he gave earlier that day if you care about truth. Trump said this:

Now, it is up to Congress to confront this egregious assault on our democracy. And after this, we're going to walk down, and I'll be there with you, we're going to walk down, we're going to walk down.

Anyone you want, but I think right here, we're going to walk down to the Capitol, and we're going to cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women, and we're probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them.

Because you'll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength and you have to be strong. We have come to demand that Congress do the right thing and only count the electors who have been lawfully slated, lawfully slated.

I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.

and

So we're going to, we're going to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue. I love Pennsylvania Avenue. And we're going to the Capitol, and we're going to try and give.

The Democrats are hopeless — they never vote for anything. Not even one vote. But we're going to try and give our Republicans, the weak ones because the strong ones don't need any of our help. We're going to try and give them the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country.

So let's walk down Pennsylvania Avenue.

Where does he say to use violence to overthrow the result? He said to march and make your voices heard to encourage weak republicans.

Yes, that's we he actually said. But the narrative! We've got to stick with the popular narrative if we want to be popular!

 

[Aldebaran]

Hi @RestoreTheJoy

No, Because I didn't see any soldiers left to die or billions of dollars of weapons merely handed over. As far as any allies left behind, wouldn't that be the job of the respective allied forces to get their people out?

How many American soldiers did we leave to die? The billions of dollars of weapons is just a false flag scenario created by those who oppose the present administration. Yes, there was some military hardware and quite a lot of military equipment such as tents, sleeping bags and such. There were a lot of spare parts and goods left in place. Those were all left mainly because it's not cost effective to gather it all up and pack it and ship it back home.

Seems there's this entire scenario that says we left billions of dollars of top grade classified military weapons behind. That didn't happen, but those who want to believe evil things about the current administration are certainly free to believe that it did in their minds.

God bless,
Ted

"Tents, sleeping bags and such"?

 

[bekkilyn]

Teaching an entire generation of children to hate their own country? Yes, that is far more dangerous than one election result being questioned.

Yes, yes, exactly! Is there perhaps another system of government that they are now programmed to believe is better than the one that upholds the government they now despise? I wonder what it could be. My eyes could go RED in straining myself to think about it.

 

[Hammster]

He (the Defeated Former President) would "woke" himself into any ideology if it suited the promotion of his brand.

That may be one of the few things we agree on.

 

[Hammster]

Facts are Trump sent his goons to capital hills.

Trump supporter took control over congress to overturn election.

Trump encouraged his supporters to protest at the Capital. Trump supporters never took over Congress. Let’s not make things up.

 

[Aldebaran]

Yes, yes, exactly! Is there perhaps another system of government that they are now programmed to believe is better than the one that upholds the government they now despise? I wonder what it could be. My eyes could go RED in straining myself to think about it.

I'm not sure they even know. All they're being taught is that the current system needs to be burned down, and then the Great Reset will fix everything.

 

[A_Thinker]

Members of his own party are turning against him now, and are facing retaliation for not towing the line for them. When other members of that party realize this, along with seeing a hard road for them coming up this November, expect mutiny among them, and impeachment is possible. They won't accept kamala either. Perhaps Manchin?

Your thinking is so fantastical ...

 

[cow451]

I don't recall this President submitting a bill to congress along with an armed violent mob in order to get congress to federalize elections and remove power from the states.

He did that in lieu of a lawful action. Followers of the badly Defeated Former President can support sedition if they like. I ain’t buying the lame justification for 1/6 nor trying to conflate legislation with sedition.

 

[cow451]

Trump believed the election results were fraudulent. If you read the speech he laid out his case and he says what he wants to happen. Some governors or government entities changed the voting rules against the US constitution. Such as Pennsylvania. US constitution says each states legislature makes the rules for elections not governors or bureaucrats. Trump said this:

States want to revote. The states got defrauded. They were given false information. They voted on it. Now they want to recertify. They want it back. All Vice President Pence has to do is send it back to the states to recertify and we become president and you are the happiest people.

This is a legal move Trump wanted, not a violent solution. Read what Trump said and not what the media or democrat's said he said.

Trump knew darned well he got his electoral butt kicked.

 

[bekkilyn]

He did that in lieu of a lawful action. Followers of the badly Defeated Former President can support sedition if they like. I ain’t buying the lame justification for 1/6 nor trying to conflate legislation with sedition.

I don't understand what Epiphany has to do with this thread.

 

[cow451]

That may be one of the few things we agree on.

I think I need to sit down for a minute to absorb this rare event…..

 

[cow451]

Trump encouraged his supporters to protest at the Capital. Trump supporters never took over Congress. Let’s not make things up.

Their goal was to occupy the building and prevent the installation of a legally elected President. Had they succeeded, the Vice President and others in the building would have likely been casualties. The fact they were not successful does not make it a non-event.

 

[cow451]

I don't understand what Epiphany has to do with this thread.

Trump had an Epiphany. He realized his electoral butt had been kicked and that he was going to need a few moving vans.

 

[bekkilyn]

Trump had an Epiphany. He realized his electoral butt had been kicked and that he was going to need a few moving vans.

So if Trump was finally intelligent enough to realize that federalized elections aren't a good thing for American democracy, why isn't Biden?

 

[Aldebaran]

Your thinking is so fantastical ...

Do you actually expect the democrats to come out ahead in November? They're retiring and quitting already. They can read the writing on the wall.

 

[cow451]

So if Trump was finally intelligent enough to realize that federalized elections aren't a good thing for American democracy, why isn't Biden?

Trump realized no such thing. He might not even be able to explain the way a Republic functions. He realized his butt had been kicked and he had “jumped the shark”.

 

[Hammster]

Their goal was to occupy the building and prevent the installation of a legally elected President. Had they succeeded, the Vice President and others in the building would have likely been casualties. The fact they were not successful does not make it a non-event.

It was the goal of some. But correlation doesn’t equal causation. There were folks there who were legitimately and legally protesting. This was encouraged by Trump. Just because A and B happened at the same time doesn’t mean they are both cause by the same thing.

 

[bekkilyn]

Trump realized no such thing. He might not even be able to explain the way a Republic functions. He realized his butt had been kicked and he had “jumped the shark”.

Oh good, then all we need to do is to get Biden to jump over the shark too and our states will be safe!

 

[cow451]

It was the goal of some. But correlation doesn’t equal causation. There were folks there who were legitimately and legally protesting. This was encouraged by Trump. Just because A and B happened at the same time doesn’t mean they are both cause by the same thing.

It seems we agree that the defeated former President tried to illegally prevent the installation of the legally elected President.