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Modern day systemic racism, does it exist?

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Asians get more credit than whites. They also make more money and do less time in prison than whites. Is that racism?
It's immigrant culture. They work hard and stick together to help each other succeed. They still don't run anything. The courts, the government, big business, banking. All promote white employees over other similarly qualified applicants.
 
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It's immigrant culture. They work hard and stick together to help each other succeed. They still don't run anything. The courts, the government, big business, banking. All promote white employees over other similarly qualified applicants.
So that explains why Asians do less time in prison and earn higher wages than whites? Nope doesn't explain it at all.
 
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What about other races?
What about them? Are they sitting on the judge's bench? A few. Sitting in CEO positions? A couple? Politicians, a few. Bosses run this country and are not as prejudiced against Asians as they are with people of a darker color..
 
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So that explains why Asians do less time and earn higher wages than whites? Nope doesn't explain it at all.
Immigrant culture. They come here for a better life and work hard to get it. The parents put huge pressure on the kids and the kids come through.
 
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You have no idea how they got their credit
Neither do you. Asians also do less time in prison and earn higher wages. Is that racism? Is the brown man discriminating against whites and blacks?
 
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Immigrant culture. They come here for a better life and work hard to get it. The parents put huge pressure on the kids and the kids come through.
Asians are not all immigrants. We all come from immigrants though.
 
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Neither do you. Asians also do less time in prison and earn higher wages. Is that racism? Is the brown .an discriminating against whites?
almost 90% of the Fortune 500 CEOs are white males
 
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Asians are not all immigrants. We all come from immigrants though.
Many still keep their own culture and don't assimilate. They give each other jobs and help each other start businesses. Most others depend on a white man for a job.
 
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What about them? Are they sitting on the judge's bench? A few. Sitting in CEO positions? A couple? Politicians, a few. Bosses run this country and are not as prejudiced against Asians as they are with people of a darker color..
No. Asians do better than whites. Why would racist whites give Asians more privilege than whites? It doesn't add up
 
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No. Asians do better than whites. Why would racist whites give Asians more privilege than whites? It doesn't add up
THey have very tight knit communities and help each other start businesses and go to college. Still 90% white CEO' in the Fortune 500. They do better than lower-class whites but they are not the 1%
 
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almost 90% of the Fortune 500 CEOs are white males
It doesn't matter. That's only because there are more whites. Statistically Asians do better than whites though. You can't point to stats that say blacks are discriminated against but then deny those same stats when they say whites are discriminated against.
 
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Many still keep their own culture and don't assimilate. They give each other jobs and help each other start businesses. Most others depend on a white man for a job.

It's not so much "assimilation" as adoption.

Asian immigrants (as well as other voluntary immigrants) come to the US with functional cultures of their own that continues to serve them adequately. That makes adoption of Anglo-American cultural elements something of a "buffet" activity.
 
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Many still keep their own culture and don't assimilate. They give each other jobs and help each other start businesses. Most others depend on a white man for a job.
That doesn't explain why Asians do less time in prison than whites or earn higher wages than whites do.
 
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It doesn't matter. That's only because there are more whites. Statistically Asians do better than whites though. You can't point to stats that say blacks are discriminated against but then deny those same stats when they say whites are discriminated against.

Asians do better only for a few generations. Fourth- and fifth-generation Asians--those who have fully adopted Anglo-American culture--aren't doing any better than whites.
 
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THey have very tight knit communities and help each other start businesses and go to college. Still 90% white CEO' in the Fortune 500. They do better than lower-class whites but they are not the 1%
Yes they are part of the 1 percent. This doesn't explain why Asians do less prison time and earn higher wages than whites.
 
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Asians do better only for a few generations. Fourth- and fifth-generation Asians--those who have fully adopted Anglo-American culture--aren't doing any better than whites.
Are they doing worse than whites? Why do they earn higher wages, better credit and do less time in prison than whites? We have an excuse for why Asians do better than whites. Whats the reason blacks do worse? Is it the white man's fault?
 
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