Modern day systemic racism, does it exist?

[rturner76]

Why don't Pelosi and Biden fix it? No more discrimination.i don't know why we are complaining about it year after year after identifying the problem. i bet if they asked Trump to do something he would have..

{eople did count on Trump to ease race relations BUT he made it worse. Are you still under Trump?

 

[IWalkAlone]

so why did it take years of fighting in the courts before it was finally rules that employers cannot just fire LGBT individuasl just becasue they find out they are members of a minority?

It wasn't the systems fault. The system is what fixed the problem.

 

[IWalkAlone]

{eople did count on Trump to ease race relations BUT he made it worse. Are you still under Trump?

Trump wanted to help black americans and did if I'm not mistaken.

 

[RDKirk]

but not all the people all the time and from all possibilities of discrimination

By what meat ax are you gong to remove "all possibilities of discrimination?"

 

[IWalkAlone]

By what meat ax are you gong to remove "all possibilities of discrimination?"

We will all dress alike, think alike, and the state will own everything.

 

[Strathos]

Its the definition I'm using. Its the dictionary definition unless I'm mistaken.

A controversial term like that has many different definitions. If you argue with someone who is using a different one, you'll just end up talking past each other.

 

[IWalkAlone]

A controversial term like that has many different definitions. If you argue with someone who is using a different one, you'll just end up talking past each other.

I made my definition known early on in the thread when I said I was talking about the government

 

[IWalkAlone]

So Asians do less time and make more money than whites. But whites do less time and make more money than blacks do. What does this data say? Is it racism?

 

[rturner76]

Trump wanted to help black americans and did if I'm not mistaken.

How did he do that?

 

[Ken-1122]

How Systemic Racism Exists In U.S. Housing Policies

I looked at this link and the examples they gave of systemic racism was how zoning laws make it more difficult for the poor to buy housing in certain areas. But that isn't racism, that's an economic issue because the same zoning laws will apply to the poor of all colors, not just blacks. An I missing something here?

 

[Ken-1122]

There is systemic racism in credit scoring and lending practices


A recent investigation into the mortgage loan industry exposed the well-known systemic inequality embedded in America's credit reporting system.

I looked up your link here and nowhere did I see anything about credit score being based on skin color, it just gave examples of lenders giving preferences to white people over people of other color. Am I missing something here?

 

[Astrid]

I'm not sure what exactly you're asking me here.



It's one definition. The problem is that there is no universally agreed-upon definition.

Does it sound like systemic racism to you

 

[Astrid]

I looked up your link here and nowhere did I see anything about credit score being based on skin color, it just gave examples of lenders giving preferences to white people over people of other color. Am I missing something here?

Good question!

 

[Astrid]

We will all dress alike, think alike, and the state will own everything.

Welcome to north korea

 

[Astrid]

It's disingenuous to pretend that racism in society is not decreasing. IOW, American society is less racist than it was 50 years ago, if for no other reason than that the War and Boomer Generations are dying off.

That's why it's ludicrous for an elementary school teacher to label fifth-grade white kids as "oppressors" in some misguided anti-racist training. Those kids are certainly not "oppressors" today, and as members of Generation A-prime, they won't be oppressors in the future.

Less racist is not just an opinion.
Here is an opinion:
If the issues and non issues are pushed too
hard and particularly in inappropriate ways ( see riots
and crt) the divisions and push back are going to
make everyone (except your enemies) very unhappy.

 

[SilverBear]

I know. Asians make more money that whites and they do less time in jail. Race card please.

the median income of Asian American's is a result of where the majority of them live.

 

[SilverBear]

It wasn't the systems fault. The system is what fixed the problem.

it was the systems fault. No one should have to go through the courts to be eligible for basic civil rights. And Since the Supreme Court's ruling Texas, Tennessee, Mississippi, Wyoming and several other states have enacted laws to create loopholes allowing LGBT individuals to be fired at will.

 

[SilverBear]

I looked at this link and the examples they gave of systemic racism was how zoning laws make it more difficult for the poor to buy housing in certain areas. But that isn't racism, that's an economic issue because the same zoning laws will apply to the poor of all colors, not just blacks. An I missing something here?

the demographics of the poor

 

[Parmallia]

Of course it does. Because blacks as a whole work jobs that pay less. AND they undoubtedly are more represented under the poverty line.

So even when they do work, they are working the types of jobs that pay less instead of pursuing careers that pay more.

Is that because they want to?

Here's a personal story: I once found myself unemployed so I hid a doctorate so that I could get a job. Yeah it paid MASSIVELY less than I was technically worth. But I did it because I needed a job.

Why do you think black people might end up with jobs that don't pay well? Is it their "culture" as so many people on here like to talk about? They just like getting paid less?

The opportunities are there, but they are not taking them.

That's the voice of privilege. But then you probably never had to hide an advanced degree so you could keep food on the table. Luxury.

 

[RDKirk]

the demographics of the poor

The answer to what keeps black people poor in 2021 is not racism, it's primarily cultural and has been for thirty years or so. But culture is largely a choice, and blacks who have chosen to step away from the slave culture do better than those who don't in proportion to how far they step away from it.