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The rise of menace as a mainstream political tool

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Labeling these parents who speak out against CRT at school board meetings as “domestic terrorists” is the epitome of lunacy and hypocrisy!

CRT defender tells parents he's got 1,000 soldiers 'locked and loaded,' some see as threat

CRT defender tells parents he's got 1,000 soldiers 'locked and loaded,' some see as threat

Forth Worth parents told Fox News that they felt threatened when a parent who defended critical race theory turned to the crowd during a school board meeting and said, "I got over a thousand soldiers ready to go," before adding, "locked and loaded," as officers escorted him out of the room.

And they say it's the opponents of CRT who are violent. :sigh:
 
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Thank you cable news pundits who set the example, all talking at once and saying nothing has turned a nation mad.

It was before cable news pundits. Political pundits who would just shout over their opponents in debates live (not TV). This was back in the 90's. Then it went to the cable news shows.

And since no one called them on it, they kept doing it.
 
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Angry, violent, toxic: How extremists are drowning out local California governments

Three of Shasta County’s elected supervisors have the sort of conservative credentials that would normally guarantee a long political career in this Republican stronghold...

But for an increasing number of their constituents, that’s not enough. For much of the past two years, vocal extremists have swarmed their board meetings spewing a toxic mix of conspiracy theories and violent rhetoric ...

(all three have been subject to recall efforts. One will be on the ballot in Feb.)

...Then came Carlos Zapata, a local restaurant owner and militia member with ties to the Proud Boys, an organization the FBI calls an extremist group linked to white nationalism. Zapata warned the board at a public meeting that the people showing up at county meetings “are not going to be peaceful much longer.”

From Modesto to Placerville, Sacramento to Oroville to Redding, the dangerous, conspiracy theory-driven spirit behind the deadly Jan. 6 U.S. Capitol riots has spread across California as far-right extremists and anti-government activists mobilize to disrupt the work of local elected officials. Local government and school board meetings have turned into tedious and contentious slogs filled with hours of public comment as extremists shout and ramble on, spewing misinformation and sometimes threatening public officials.

In Rocklin, law enforcement now attends school board meetings, which have become increasingly contentious and riddled with misinformation and conspiracies. “You’re gonna need a lot more police than that,” Matthew Cropley, a parent, said at one of the meetings.
 
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It was before cable news pundits. Political pundits who would just shout over their opponents in debates live (not TV). This was back in the 90's. Then it went to the cable news shows.

And since no one called them on it, they kept doing it.

But of course -- when your morals are nothing but "win at all costs," your morals are nothing at all.
 
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So you have answered my question. If right wing radicals start burning and looting cities, the left will call them "terrorists" and "insurectionists. They would be investigated and charged by the hundreds. However, if left wing radicals start burning and looting cities, it is "social justice".

I said no such thing -- but I am neither surprised nor disappointed that you chose to think I said that.
 
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I recall that right before the civil war started, one Congressman nearly beat another congressman to death with a cane on the House floor. Wonder if that's gonna happen again.
Probably not. Today we have unelected groupies who simply wait for their cue before acting.

Let's not forget the people who felt motivated to tackle a US Senator in his own front yard and break a few of his ribs...or the guy who waited until a whole bunch of Republican members of Congress and their aides were practicing on a baseball diamond and shot as many of them as he could.
 
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Probably not. Today we have unelected groupies who simply wait for their cue before acting.

Let's not forget the people who felt motivated to tackle a US Senator in his own front yard and break a few of his ribs...or the guy who waited until a whole bunch of Republican members of Congress and their aides were practicing on a baseball diamond and shot as many of them as he could.

Don't forget - to the left, the portrayal of murdering of a sitting President was viewed as entertainment also.

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I recall that right before the civil war started, one Congressman nearly beat another congressman to death with a cane on the House floor. Wonder if that's gonna happen again.

Congressmen have had to be reminded about the rules -- no guns on the floor.
 
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Well, there are SOO MANY of those kinds of events coming from the Left that it would be hard to decide which to list in a short post.

I'm referring to threats of violence and visual representations of it in order to intimidate conservative enemies.

And then there are those actions that are somewhere in between, such as the mailing of the poison Ricin to Senator Susan Collins because she voted to confirm a Supreme Court nominee.
 
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NON stop violence around the United states for close to four years by groups that closely associated with the left, billions in damage - calling federal agents 'storm troopers' for trying to stop a federal court house from being fire bombed nightly for months -

These are their peaceful protests:

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Congressmen have had to be reminded about the rules -- no guns on the floor.

do you ever read your links?

In addition, the 25-year-old congressman, who has served less than three weeks, is putting out fires over numerous stories that mention the fact he carries a firearm in the Capitol building.

In the wake of the Jan. 6 insurrection, new measures have been taken by Capitol Police to ensure compliance with a law that mandates representatives can’t have a firearm while in the House chamber. A memo sent by House Sergeant at Arms Timothy Blodgett outlined the new requirements, which include getting screened for weapons.

In a Monday morning interview with The Mountaineer, Cawthorn said he understands the importance of the memo and the requirement to leave firearms in congressional offices.

When asked then if he carries a firearm regularly in the Capitol, he said he carries everywhere he can.
He never said he carried to the floor - it is just another over reaction from the left.
 
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do you ever read your links?

Do you ever understand what I'm saying?

Congressmen have had to be reminded about the rules.

In the wake of the Jan. 6 insurrection, new measures have been taken by Capitol Police to ensure compliance with a law that mandates representatives can’t have a firearm while in the House chamber. A memo sent by House Sergeant at Arms Timothy Blodgett outlined the new requirements

Congressmen were sent a memo reiterating the rules (and the new metal detector requirement). I didn't even mention Cawthorn, much less assert anything about him.
 
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And then there are those actions that are somewhere in between, such as the mailing of the poison Ricin to Senator Susan Collins because she voted to confirm a Supreme Court nominee.
Mailing Ricin to someone is more than a threat. It's an attempt.
 
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Do you ever understand what I'm saying?

Congressmen have had to be reminded about the rules.

In the wake of the Jan. 6 insurrection, new measures have been taken by Capitol Police to ensure compliance with a law that mandates representatives can’t have a firearm while in the House chamber. A memo sent by House Sergeant at Arms Timothy Blodgett outlined the new requirements

Congressmen were sent a memo reiterating the rules (and the new metal detector requirement). I didn't even mention Cawthorn, much less assert anything about him.

He was the focus of the link you evidently did not read - he had been on the job less than a month.

Evidently the Democrats needed to hear about the metal detectors also - even with all that -

GOP demands Nancy Pelosi pay fine for bypassing metal detectors

Do you understand what I am saying - the top person in the place - Speaker of the House ignored the rules just weeks later.
 
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