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I've been around solid biblical teaching for quite a while. I know the truth. I know that God regenerated my heart, I know my dreams and desires. They're all on the line for Christ, are to satisfy my need for holiness.

And then I heard the greatest preaching I've ever heard. In that preaching they were saying that God's work is already done. He uses last tense words to describe salvation. As in, while it hasn't happened yet, it's already done.

Which made me both cry and both feel like crap. How can I be saved as if it's already done? Nobody knows my sin, nobody knows how far away from Christ I am. You wait patiently on God's promises and of course they always come true. But why save somebody thats not even remotely like you? And on top of that, constantly blasphemes and hates those let's just say are "different". I am evil down to the darkest core and yet, I'm supposed to believe all these things that I know is true.

It kind of goes like this I know it's true but there are doubts in the back of my mind. It's already done and declared and God will bring it to finish but right now, I'm far too stuck in daily sin to do anything. What should I do? Both to God and to CF as a whole. I want to terminate sin forever, I hate it, it's a stain on what I could be doing for God and..., I just feel.... hopeless. Getting less than 6 hours sleep last night probably didn't help...
 

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I've been around solid biblical teaching for quite a while. I know the truth. I know that God regenerated my heart, I know my dreams and desires. They're all on the line for Christ, are to satisfy my need for holiness.

And then I heard the greatest preaching I've ever heard. In that preaching they were saying that God's work is already done. He uses last tense words to describe salvation. As in, while it hasn't happened yet, it's already done.

Which made me both cry and both feel like crap. How can I be saved as if it's already done? Nobody knows my sin, nobody knows how far away from Christ I am. You wait patiently on God's promises and of course they always come true. But why save somebody thats not even remotely like you? And on top of that, constantly blasphemes and hates those let's just say are "different". I am evil down to the darkest core and yet, I'm supposed to believe all these things that I know is true.

It kind of goes like this I know it's true but there are doubts in the back of my mind. It's already done and declared and God will bring it to finish but right now, I'm far too stuck in daily sin to do anything. What should I do? Both to God and to CF as a whole. I want to terminate sin forever, I hate it, it's a stain on what I could be doing for God and..., I just feel.... hopeless. Getting less than 6 hours sleep last night probably didn't help...
Just remember that God really really loves you and God is always with you. He is for you and He really wants you in Heaven. God bless you and Jesus is our Lord and Saviour
 
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I've been around solid biblical teaching for quite a while. I know the truth. I know that God regenerated my heart, I know my dreams and desires. They're all on the line for Christ, are to satisfy my need for holiness.

And then I heard the greatest preaching I've ever heard. In that preaching they were saying that God's work is already done. He uses last tense words to describe salvation. As in, while it hasn't happened yet, it's already done.

Which made me both cry and both feel like crap. How can I be saved as if it's already done? Nobody knows my sin, nobody knows how far away from Christ I am. You wait patiently on God's promises and of course they always come true. But why save somebody thats not even remotely like you? And on top of that, constantly blasphemes and hates those let's just say are "different". I am evil down to the darkest core and yet, I'm supposed to believe all these things that I know is true.

It kind of goes like this I know it's true but there are doubts in the back of my mind. It's already done and declared and God will bring it to finish but right now, I'm far too stuck in daily sin to do anything. What should I do? Both to God and to CF as a whole. I want to terminate sin forever, I hate it, it's a stain on what I could be doing for God and..., I just feel.... hopeless. Getting less than 6 hours sleep last night probably didn't help...
As I listen to the bible in MP3 format, I am reminded of that saying in the Gospel of John. Jesus said "you are now made clean by this word I have spoken to you."

We're made clean by Jesus speaking, but not preachers speaking. Though it is ideal to think God is speaking through them, after listening to such a great speech, is anyone now clean?
 
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I've been around solid biblical teaching for quite a while. I know the truth. I know that God regenerated my heart, I know my dreams and desires. They're all on the line for Christ, are to satisfy my need for holiness.

And then I heard the greatest preaching I've ever heard. In that preaching they were saying that God's work is already done. He uses last tense words to describe salvation. As in, while it hasn't happened yet, it's already done.

Which made me both cry and both feel like crap. How can I be saved as if it's already done? Nobody knows my sin, nobody knows how far away from Christ I am. You wait patiently on God's promises and of course they always come true. But why save somebody thats not even remotely like you? And on top of that, constantly blasphemes and hates those let's just say are "different". I am evil down to the darkest core and yet, I'm supposed to believe all these things that I know is true.

It kind of goes like this I know it's true but there are doubts in the back of my mind. It's already done and declared and God will bring it to finish but right now, I'm far too stuck in daily sin to do anything. What should I do? Both to God and to CF as a whole. I want to terminate sin forever, I hate it, it's a stain on what I could be doing for God and..., I just feel.... hopeless. Getting less than 6 hours sleep last night probably didn't help...


Walking by Faith.
 
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Nobody knows my sin, nobody knows how far away from Christ I am.

We need to be pushing hard against sin, don't rest until you purge your heart of it. When life is hard we can fall into sin, I know there is weakness. But we must never stay in that state of weakness, or make excuses for it.

Focus on the good plans that God has for you, and move towards those. There is a working out of our salvation, and action by us.

Php 2:12-15 So work with fear and trembling to discover what it really means to be saved. God is working in you to make you willing and able to obey him. Do everything without grumbling or arguing. Then you will be the pure and innocent children of God.
 
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You said you were so close then you started tearing yourself down. In the spirit we are willing but in the flesh we can’t please God. Don’t identify with your sin and be ruled by the spirit. But really we all have this conflict. The encouragement is God loves us and forgives us. We have to endure to the end.
 
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Thank you for all your replies. You're right, in the flesh I cannot please God I have to walk in the spirit.

I guess what is so discouraging though, is how far the apostles and prophets are in scripture.

It's true, the Apostles were special cases and could do everything Jesus could when he was on Earth. But, they were just so far in their holiness that I start to realize just how far I am from that point. I start measuring myself with that measure because while they still sinned they were also Holy to a point. Holier than us anyway.

I mean, if I have to read another excerpt of Paul being so perfect near the end of his life I'm going to cry. I cling to Paul saying that what God starts he will finish. But, I'm so far from completion that is it even possible?
 
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You are complete in Christ. Just not perfect. God. Loves. You. I am fueled by perfectionism too sometimes. But had to lay off putting myself down and not, being content with who I am right now. He will keep working and you will keep growing. Enjoy the ride. When the time is right He will put something on your heart so you can bear much fruit!
 
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Thank you for all your replies. You're right, in the flesh I cannot please God I have to walk in the spirit.

I guess what is so discouraging though, is how far the apostles and prophets are in scripture.

It's true, the Apostles were special cases and could do everything Jesus could when he was on Earth. But, they were just so far in their holiness that I start to realize just how far I am from that point. I start measuring myself with that measure because while they still sinned they were also Holy to a point. Holier than us anyway.

I mean, if I have to read another excerpt of Paul being so perfect near the end of his life I'm going to cry. I cling to Paul saying that what God starts he will finish. But, I'm so far from completion that is it even possible?
The Apostles were chosen by Christ. They fell. They got up again. They kept following Him. They perfected their faith by giving what they could for Christ. Not all of us will be martyred. Not all of us will write books, or speak and become well known. But we can take up our cross daily, and follow Him, where He has placed us.
 
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You're right, in the flesh I cannot please God I have to walk in the spirit.

What does it mean to "Walk in the Spirit"? How do you do this?

I guess what is so discouraging though, is how far the apostles and prophets are in scripture.

The standard is Christ, not the apostles. Don't look horizontally but vertically. Look unto Jesus. (Hebrews 12:2-3; 2 Corinthians 3:18) If you've been saved, you stand before God clothed in Christ's perfect righteousness. In Christ, you've been fully redeemed, justified and sanctified (1 Corinthians 1:30). All that remains is for you to let the Spirit conform you to this spiritual reality in how you live everyday.

It's true, the Apostles were special cases and could do everything Jesus could when he was on Earth.

??? Could the apostles die in redemption of sinful humanity? No. Could the apostles see into the hearts of other men, knowing their unspoken thoughts? No. Could any of the apostles boast a virgin birth and membership in the Godhead? No. Did any of them calm a raging sea? No. Did any of them replicate Christ's feeding of the five thousands? No. The apostles were just men empowered by the Spirit to serve God. We, too, are all, as God's children, called to be "vessels sanctified and meet for the Master's use."

But, they were just so far in their holiness that I start to realize just how far I am from that point. I start measuring myself with that measure because while they still sinned they were also Holy to a point. Holier than us anyway.

What's the goal of this measuring? What part of you despairs in the comparison?

I mean, if I have to read another excerpt of Paul being so perfect near the end of his life I'm going to cry.

Why? Why does Paul's spiritual success and maturity provoke in you such a response? Shouldn't you be glad of what God did in and through Paul? Shouldn't God's transformation of Paul give you hope that God will, as you submit to Him throughout each day, do the same in you? What part of you is giving rise to such a negative response to the example of the goodness and power of God in Paul's life?

I cling to Paul saying that what God starts he will finish. But, I'm so far from completion that is it even possible?

But are you moving daily closer to God? That's the thing to think on. There is no static place, no neutral ground, you can inhabit where you move neither toward God nor away from Him. There is only moving toward God or away from Him. How do you tell in which direction you're going each day?

Rather than bemoan how far from Paul you are in your living, you might do well to count the cost of living in a way displeasing to God, of allowing sin to crowd into your life. If the goodness of God can't strongly motivate you to right living, perhaps the terrible danger of sin may do so.

The Terrible Cost of Sin.
 
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I've been around solid biblical teaching for quite a while. I know the truth. I know that God regenerated my heart, I know my dreams and desires. They're all on the line for Christ, are to satisfy my need for holiness.

And then I heard the greatest preaching I've ever heard. In that preaching they were saying that God's work is already done. He uses last tense words to describe salvation. As in, while it hasn't happened yet, it's already done.

Which made me both cry and both feel like crap. How can I be saved as if it's already done? Nobody knows my sin, nobody knows how far away from Christ I am. You wait patiently on God's promises and of course they always come true. But why save somebody thats not even remotely like you? And on top of that, constantly blasphemes and hates those let's just say are "different". I am evil down to the darkest core and yet, I'm supposed to believe all these things that I know is true.

It kind of goes like this I know it's true but there are doubts in the back of my mind. It's already done and declared and God will bring it to finish but right now, I'm far too stuck in daily sin to do anything. What should I do? Both to God and to CF as a whole. I want to terminate sin forever, I hate it, it's a stain on what I could be doing for God and..., I just feel.... hopeless. Getting less than 6 hours sleep last night probably didn't help...

Romans 5

6For at just the right time, while we were still powerless, Christ died for the ungodly. 7Very rarely will anyone die for a righteous man, though for a good man someone might possibly dare to die. 8But God proves His love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

Believe it ;o)
 
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for me anyway we ought to listen exclusively and only to what the Lord Jesus Christ says about the matter, and learn not to think above that which is written, so that we may avoid exaggeration and over-estimation, such as the concept of someone outside of scripture saying being saved is already done.
The Lord Jesus Christ tells us exactly and plainly that "he that endureth to the end shall be saved" and nevers says at any time that nothing is required of us: we must continually make the sincere effort to deny our own will, repent and own our sins, and submit to and rely upon the Word of God, and quarrel with and battle against sin all the day long, and keep out trust in the hands and power of God, and not in sin: these are the things which we must continually endure the doing thereof to the end.
But if we begin to think that we are already good enough and think we are already saved, therefore nothing is required of us; then we are deceiving ourselves.
 
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Beloved one, consider what the Lord have said:

Thus says the Lord: “What injustice have your fathers found in Me,
That they have gone far from Me, Have followed idols,
And have become idolaters?”
‭‭Jeremiah‬ ‭2:5‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

Beloved one, you consider yourself you are far from the Lord because you want to be near the Lord.

So considering what the Lord have said in Jeremiah 2:5, when we are near God when we have found justice in the Lord. That means when we have found God’s righteousness, we have followed the Lord not idols and have become not idolaters but we have become believers of His righteousness.
 
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I am evil down to the darkest core and yet, I'm supposed to believe all these things that I know is true.

Beloved one, you must consider your enemy putting false image on you, that you are evil to the darkest core !

Beloved one, consider for a moment of sound mind: would you put a false image and false voice to yourself or label yourself, that you are evil to the darkest core !

Beloved one, you must perceive only the devil like to impersonate as yourself, and say to yourself, that you are evil to the darkest core.
Why? Because the devil get benefited that you are deceived.

Beloved one, Jesus Christ would not put that kind of image in your mind. Why ? Crazy! Because you were made through Christ. And having the one who was made through Christ, and that to think that he himself is evil to the darkest core. — why Jesus have to do that to you ? This kind of thought didn’t benefit Jesus at all.

Beloved one, put away the false image of yourself.

For we heard:
For those whom He foreknew He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, in order that He might be the firstborn among many brothers. -Romans 8:29

Beloved one, believe that you are the one whom the Lord fore knew and predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son.

So put in your mind the right image of His Son and be delivered from the enemy.

To God the Father be thanksgiving through Christ. Amen.
 
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Beloved one, you ask,”Am I alone?”
Even if many around you, you can still feel alone.

Not to be alone, is to be with Christ.

Consider the Lord’s loving kindness and strength, that we heard :

So then you are no longer strangers and aliens, but you are fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, -Ephesians 2:19
built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone, -Ephesians 2:20
in whom the whole structure, being joined together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord. -Ephesians 2:21
In him you also are being built together into a dwelling place for God by the Spirit. -Ephesians 2:22

Why with rhis truth in Ephesians 2:19-22, you still sense that you are alone ?

Because you are not supposed to sense using your physical sense, but you are supposed to sense using your spiritual sense.

For God is Spirit, our Lord said in John 4:24.
When you have been baptized in the Lord’s name, the Lord gave you a new heart, or a new spirit. You are supposed to use your new heart to sense the Lord.

For we heard :
Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. -2 Corinthians 3:17

So with our spirits or hearts, we are to commune with the Lord who is Spirit.

And where the Lord is, there is freedom from being alone !

So where is the Lord ? So that you will not be alone.

This is what we have heard:
“This is my comfort in my affliction,
For Your word has given me life.”
‭‭Psalms‬ ‭119:50‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

Beloved one, where is the word of the Lord, that is where the Lord is, when you have perceived what the Lord have spoken are Spirit and life. You perceive that God the Father has given you life with His Son, that you are never alone.

So put away the false image, that you are alone.

Consider this:
Take words with you, And return to the Lord. Say to Him, “Take away all iniquity; Receive us graciously, For we will offer the sacrifices of our lips.”
‭‭Hosea‬ ‭14:2‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

Beloved one, unless you take the Lord’s words that He has spoken in your heart, you can’t perceive that He is with you. So take His words, store His words in your heart, and treasure that; and you will perceive and understand that He is with you, that you are never alone.

To God the Father be thanksgiving through Christ. Amen.
 
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