Are non-Jewish Christians commanded to keep the 7th Day Sabbath

[Servus]

My friend, you keep trying to advert people away from the scriptures, why is that? I told you it came from scripture, I quoted scripture and even left references. I did not quote Ellen, Doug or Three ABN. God wrote the Ten Commandments, not Ellen, not Doug and not 3 ABN. You can get out your own bible and read the scriptures for yourself.

Because you add a lot of wording to scripture that forms a unique exclusive interpretation of it, that you and others give out practically word for word. You're basically telling me "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!". Again most of what you write is NOT scripture, but rather words added to scripture. Pretty much the same words I hear from others - that are not found in the Bible.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Because you add a lot of wording to scripture that forms a unique exclusive interpretation of it, that you and others give out practically word for word. You're basically telling me "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!".

The man behind the curtain is our Creator and Savior because all I have ever quoted is scripture and God's Word.

 

[Servus]

The man behind the curtain is our Creator and Savior because all I have ever quoted is scripture.

No because you're saying things that are an interpretation of scripture, rather than what's in the Bible. If you want to make the claim that everything you write is from our Creator and Savior, then you need to stick to quoting Him exclusively and not add to what He said.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

No because you're saying things that are an interpretation of scripture, rather than what's in the Bible. If you want to make the claim that everything you write is from our Creator and Savior, then you need to stick to quoting Him exclusively and not add to what He said.

Thanks for your opinion. I notice you didn't quote scripture rebutting the scripture I posted so we will have to agree to disagree. Feel free to make a case though scripture. I see no scripture stating that Adam and Eve sinned from Creation and disobey God's holy day on day seven.

 

[Servus]

Do you really think the very first Sabbath that Adam and Eve did not also keep holy and rested in our Savior by spending time with God on the first Sabbath? That is what the Sabbath is about communion with our Savior on His holy day. That first Sabbath must have been marvelous! Something we will be getting back to soon, in-person worship with our Lord and Savior on His Sabbath day. Isaiah 66:23

Everything in blue are your words, not what's written in the Bible. Attaching Isaiah 66:23 to what you wrote, does not make it scripture. It makes it your interpretation of scripture. But It's not really yours, because I have seen others say the same thing. My guess is Ellen White said it first and then it got passed down. It's fine if you want to follow Ellen White's teaching. But I see no point in denying that's what you and others are doing.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Everything in blue are your words, not what's written in the Bible. Attaching Isaiah 66:23 to what you wrote, does not make it scripture. It makes it your interpretation of scripture. But It's not really yours, because I have seen others say the same thing. My guess is Ellen White said it first and then it got passed down. It's fine if you want to follow Ellen White's teaching. But I see no point in denying that's what you and others are doing.

I have already quoted scripture, but you disregard.

You seem to make a case that what God does is random. Nothing really makes sense, He says remember, but meant forget. Exodus 20:8 Jesus said the Sabbath was made for man Mark 2:27, but not the very first man created on the sixth day before the very first holy day of rest. Genesis 2:1-3 and the Sabbath was certainly not made for you according to your posts on how much you disagree with God's holy day. Exodus 20:10, Isaiah 58:13, Genesis 2:1-3 We do have free will.

 

[Servus]

Thanks for your opinion. I notice you didn't quote scripture rebutting the scripture I posted so we will have to agree to disagree. Feel free to make a case though scripture. I see no scripture stating that Adam and Eve sinned from Creation and disobey God's holy day on day seven.

None of that is scripture either.

 

[Servus]

You seem to make a case that what God does is random. Nothing really makes sense, He says remember, but meant forget. Exodus 20:8 Jesus said the Sabbath was made for man Mark 2:27, but not the very first man created on the sixth day and certainly not made for you according to your posts on how much you disagree with the God's holy day. Exodus 20:10, Isaiah 58:13, Genesis 2:1-3 We do have free will.

Again everything in blue is your words. Attaching verses to what you write in your own words does not make your words scripture, but rather an interpretation of scripture.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Again everything in blue is your words. Attaching verses to what you write in your own words does not make your words scripture, but rather an interpretation of scripture.

I posted the scripture reference what is it you disagree with? Here are the scriptures.

Exodus 20:8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. (These are God's Words, not mine- not Ellen or Doug or 3ABN).

Mark 2:27 Then Jesus declared, “The Sabbath was made for man" - was not Adam and Eve man? Are you saying they were alien?

Genesis 1: 26 Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.” 27 So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. 28 Then God blessed them, and God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth.”

Genesis 2:1 Thus the heavens and the earth, and all the host of them, were finished. 2 And on the seventh day God ended His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done. 3 Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because in it He rested from all His work which God had created and made.

Almost Verbatim from the 4th commandment

Exodus 20: 8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

Isaiah 58:13 “If you turn away your foot from the Sabbath,
From doing your pleasure on My holy day,
And call the Sabbath a delight,
The holy day of the Lord honorable,
And shall honor Him, not doing your own ways,
Nor finding your own pleasure,
Nor speaking your own words,

Isaiah 66:23 And it shall come to pass
That from one New Moon to another,
And from one Sabbath to another,
All flesh shall come to worship before Me,” says the Lord.

 

[Servus]

I posted the scripture reference what is it your disagree with? Here are the scriptures.

Exodus 20:8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. These are God's Words, not mine.
Mark 2:27 Then Jesus declared, “The Sabbath was made for man - was not Adam and Eve man? Are you saying they were alien?

Genesis 1: 26 Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.” 27 So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. 28 Then God blessed them, and God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth.”

Genesis 2:1 Thus the heavens and the earth, and all the host of them, were finished. 2 And on the seventh day God ended His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done. 3 Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because in it He rested from all His work which God had created and made.

Almost Verbatim from the the commandment

Exodus 20: 8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

Isaiah 58:13 “If you turn away your foot from the Sabbath,
From doing your pleasure on My holy day,
And call the Sabbath a delight,
The holy day of the Lord honorable,
And shall honor Him, not doing your own ways,
Nor finding your own pleasure,
Nor speaking your own words,

Isaiah 66:23 And it shall come to pass
That from one New Moon to another,
And from one Sabbath to another,
All flesh shall come to worship before Me,” says the Lord.

Stick to that format if you want to make the claim that you're only posting scripture.

Now what it comes down to, is me saying how I interpret those scripture verses and/or how they do or do not apply to gentile Christians. And that is going to fall within Christian orthodoxy. So then it's a matter of accepting an orthodox interpretation and summation, or accepting an unorthodox interpretation and summation.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Stick to that format if you want to make the claim that you're only posting scripture.

Now what it comes down to is me saying how I interpret those scripture verses and/or how the do or do not apply to gentile Christians. And that is going to fall within Christian orthodoxy. So then it's a matter of accepting an orthodox interpretation and summation, or accepting an unorthodox interpretation and summation.

Says the person who has not posted any scripture.

What God has made Holy man cannot make unholy. Its been nice chatting with you but I must run and do my work.

God bless

 

[Servus]

Says the person who has not posted any scripture.

That wasn't scripture.

 

[Servus]

What God has made Holy man cannot make unholy. Its been nice chatting with you but I must run and do my work.

God bless

Man can however give eisegetical unorthodox interpretations of scripture.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Man can however give eisegetical unorthodox interpretations of scripture.

For someone who insists on scripture you might want to consider using them to try and make your case.

 

[Servus]

For someone who insists on scripture you might want to consider using them to try and make your case.

I just said if you're going to insist that everything you write is scripture, you should sick to only quoting scripture rather than writing a whole bunch of your own words and adding scripture tags to them.

 

[Der Alte]

I posted the scripture reference what is it you disagree with? Here are the scriptures.
Exodus 20:8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. (These are God's Words, not mine- not Ellen or Doug or 3ABN).
Mark 2:27 Then Jesus declared, “The Sabbath was made for man" - was not Adam and Eve man? Are you saying they were alien?
Genesis 1: 26 Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.” 27 So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. 28 Then God blessed them, and God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth.”
Genesis 2:1 Thus the heavens and the earth, and all the host of them, were finished. 2 And on the seventh day God ended His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done. 3 Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because in it He rested from all His work which God had created and made.
Almost Verbatim from the 4th commandment
Exodus 20: 8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.
Isaiah 58:13 “If you turn away your foot from the Sabbath,
From doing your pleasure on My holy day,
And call the Sabbath a delight,
The holy day of the Lord honorable,
And shall honor Him, not doing your own ways,
Nor finding your own pleasure,
Nor speaking your own words,
Isaiah 66:23 And it shall come to pass
That from one New Moon to another,
And from one Sabbath to another,
All flesh shall come to worship before Me,” says the Lord.

This post reminds of of the current border situation one side pushing a false narrative vilifying the other side.
I agree with every verse you posted but you apparently do not agree with the verses I post since you continue to ignore them.

Exodus 31:16-17
16 The Israelites are to observe the Sabbath, celebrating it for the generations to come as a lasting covenant.
17 It will be a sign between me and the Israelites forever, for in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, and on the seventh day he rested and was refreshed.'"
Leviticus 24:8
8 Every sabbath he shall set it in order before the LORD continually, being taken from the children of Israel by an everlasting covenant.​

The Sabbath is given specifically to the children of Israel NOT all mankind two verse.
Isaiah 66:23 "one new moon to another" means from month to month. Guess what "one Sabbath to another" means? Week to week.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

This post reminds of of the current border situation one side pushing a false narrative vilifying the other side.
I agree with every verse you posted but you apparently do not agree with the verses I post since you continue to ignore them.

Exodus 31:16-17
16 The Israelites are to observe the Sabbath, celebrating it for the generations to come as a lasting covenant.
17 It will be a sign between me and the Israelites forever, for in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, and on the seventh day he rested and was refreshed.'"
Leviticus 24:8
8 Every sabbath he shall set it in order before the LORD continually, being taken from the children of Israel by an everlasting covenant.​

The Sabbath is given specifically to the children of Israel NOT all mankind two verse.
Isaiah 66:23 "one new moon to another" means from month to month. Guess what "one Sabbath to another" means? Week to week.

I am thrilled we agree on something! :0)

What do you think these verses mean?

Galatians 3:26 For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. 27 For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Romans 9:6 But it is not that the word of God has taken no effect. For they are not all Israel who are of Israel, 7 nor are they all children because they are the seed of Abraham; but, “In Isaac your seed shall be called.” 8 That is, those who are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God; but the children of the promise are counted as the seed.

Romans 2:28 For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh; 29 but he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the Spirit, not in the letter; whose praise is not from men but from God.

Are you part of the New Covenant?

 

[SabbathBlessings]

I just said if you're going to insist that everything you write is scripture, you should sick to only quoting scripture rather than writing a whole bunch of your own words and adding scripture tags to them.

Well isn't that better than just suppling opinions with no scripture at all to back it up?

Shouldn't you be posting back with scriptures only? I don't see anyone on these forums who only post scriptures and never comments. What I am hearing is you are okay with commentary as long as you agree with it, but no one else should post without scripture and anyone you agree with can post without scriptures including yourself. Seems a bit one-sided but that's okay. I will continue on and if you do not like my posts you are welcome to not respond or ignore them.

 

[Servus]

Well isn't that better than just suppling opinions with no scripture at all to back it up?

You're just trying to divert from the observation that you and others give interpretations of scripture that are handed down from Ellen White's teaching, while claiming you don't follow the teaching of man. It's the Ellen White interpretation of scripture verses the orthodox interpretation of scripture. That's just the way it is and one must choose either one interpretation or the other.

 

[Der Alte]

I am thrilled we agree on something! :0)
What do you think these verses mean?
Galatians 3:26 For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. 27 For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Romans 9:6 But it is not that the word of God has taken no effect. For they are not all Israel who are of Israel, 7 nor are they all children because they are the seed of Abraham; but, “In Isaac your seed shall be called.” 8 That is, those who are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God; but the children of the promise are counted as the seed.
Romans 2:28 For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh; 29 but he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the Spirit, not in the letter; whose praise is not from men but from God.
Are you part of the New Covenant?

Sorry I don't play games like this. The title of this thread is "Are non-Jewish Christians commanded to keep the 7th Day Sabbath." The above passages are not on topic.
How were the the former pagan gentile Christians to whom the NT was written supposed to observe the seventh say Sabbath since they were never told about it or the other laws in the OT.
There is not one single command in the NT for gentile Christians to observe the seventh day Sabbath. Those like you who "choose" to are free to do so.