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Are non-Jewish Christians commanded to keep the 7th Day Sabbath

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Jesus told us the Sabbath was made for man, which takes us back to the Garden of Eden when God made man on the six day and the very next day was God’s Sabbath. God worked six days and rested on the seventh day not because God needed rest, it was an example for man.
You need to be extra careful when making statements about commandments in the Old Testament. There is no commandment in Genesis given to mankind to obey the Sabbath. To infer that mankind had a commandment to obey the Sabbath from Eden. Is a dangerous claim to make and one that the evidence does not support.

Here are two examples of direct commandments given to mankind in Genesis.

Genesis 6:22
Thus Noah did; according to all that God had commanded him, so he did.

Genesis 21:4
Then Abraham circumcised his son Isaac when he was eight days old, as God had commanded him.

We do not see a command to obey the Sabbath until Exodus. Silence regarding this Sabbath commandment in Genesis is the default position.
 
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I’m sorry you feel these verses are random, they really explain that if you are one in Christ there is no Jew or Gentile. You are going to miss so much in scripture if you don’t understand these easy to read scriptures. Your whole objection is that you are a gentile and not a Jew, these scriptures directly address this objection. It’s a good thing, God’s people are those who believe and follow the Word and not a nationality.
That is the empty accusation that all heterodox believers throw out. I read the scriptures in more than one language I'm quite certain that I understand scripture better than you do. All scripture is written for us but no "to" us.
Noah was commanded to build a boat.
Moses was commanded to go to Pharaoh and take certain actions.
I wasn't commanded to do those things. Anything in the Bible which is given to a certain person or people belongs to whom it is given not everyone who reads the Bible. If I am wrong God will correct me not anonymous people on forums like this.
 
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You need to be extra careful when making statements about commandments in the Old Testament. There is no commandment in Genesis given to mankind to obey the Sabbath. To infer that mankind had a commandment to obey the Sabbath from Eden. Is a dangerous claim to make and one that the evidence does not support.

Here are two examples of direct commandments given to mankind in Genesis.

Genesis 6:22
Thus Noah did; according to all that God had commanded him, so he did.

Genesis 21:4
Then Abraham circumcised his son Isaac when he was eight days old, as God had commanded him.

We do not see a command to obey the Sabbath until Exodus. Silence regarding this Sabbath commandment in Genesis is the default position.
Are you advising what Jesus did by keeping the Sabbath going to Temple as His custom on the Sabbath day reading God’s Word. Luke 4:16 is a bad example for us?
 
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Are you advising what Jesus did by keeping the Sabbath going to Temple as His custom on the Sabbath day reading God’s Word was is a bad example for us?
Goodness, no one wants to bully me. They just want to pick on the girls. Thanks for sharing the scriptures. I am sure someone will find them useful.

God bless sis :)
 
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That is the empty accusation that all heterodox believers throw out. I read the scriptures in more than one language I'm quite certain that I understand scripture better than you do. All scripture is written for us but no "to" us.
Noah was commanded to build a boat.
Moses was commanded to go to Pharaoh and take certain actions.
I wasn't commanded to do those things. Anything in the Bible which is given to a certain person or people belongs to whom it is given not everyone who reads the Bible. If I am wrong God will correct me not anonymous people on forums like this.
I’m sorry I can’t help you. The scriptures are there and pretty easy to read and understand. I would not want to write myself out of the New Covenant or promises, written in scripture to Jews, but we are told if we are of Christ there is no Jew or Gentile we are Spiritual Jews.
 
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John 15:10
10 If you keep my commands, you will remain in my love, just as I have kept my Father's commands and remain in his love.​
I keep Jesus' commands. Where did Jesus. Himself, command gentiles to keep the seventh day Sabbath?

Here in Matt 24:20-30 Jesus speaks of the Sabbath being kept up to His Second coming.
How do we know? By His use of the words For, And, Then, For, Behold, Wherefore, and For. All of which connect what is about to be said to what was previously said.
Then in verse 29 Jesus says, Immediately after the tribulation of those days..."
What days?
The days Jesus just spoke about and said for us to pray that our flight not be in the winter nor on the Sabbath Day. Which would be the destruction of the Temple and the sign of His coming.

Matt 24:20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
Matt 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
Matt 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
Matt 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
Matt 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
Matt 24:25 Behold, I have told you before.
Matt 24:26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
Matt 24:27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Matt 24:28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
Matt 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
Matt 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
 
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Do you know what God's new covenant promise is?
Me, me, me, I will answer that. I love easy questions.

Acts 2:21
And it shall be that everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.

Me winner man.

Why CF website so easy.
 
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Goodness, no one wants to bully me. They just want to pick on the girls. Thanks for sharing the scriptures. I am sure someone will find them useful.

God bless sis :)
People don’t realize they only hurt themselves by shutting out the blessing God gives in the Sabbath rest and communion time with our Savior. God bless and thank for sharing God’s Word.
 
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No of which is posted here in the following quote proves anything.
That is the empty accusation that all heterodox believers throw out. I read the scriptures in more than one language I'm quite certain that I understand scripture better than you do.
 
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Your response.

If you do not know the answer to the question asked just say so. I am happy to answer it for you if you do not know the answer (although the scriptures provided to you already answer the question). I was only trying to see how you understand the scriptures I provided before answering. Do you know the answer to my question to you? What might be helpful is if you can tell me why you think God gave us the His 10 commandments in the first place. Do you know the answer from scripture? Of course you do not have to answer these question if you do not want to. Perhaps you can pray about it. I hope they give you something to think about and are a blessing to you.

Take Care

Thank you. Why do not obey God's other commandments?
 
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Here in Matt 24:20-30 Jesus speaks of the Sabbath being kept up to His Second coming.
How do we know? By His use of the words For, And, Then, For, Behold, Wherefore, and For. All of which connect what is about to be said to what was previously said..
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Where is the command for gentile Christians to keep the seventh day Sabbath?
 
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Are you advising what Jesus did by keeping the Sabbath going to Temple as His custom on the Sabbath day reading God’s Word. Luke 4:16 is a bad example for us?
I do not understand your reply.

You need to quote the commandment in Genesis that directs mankind to obey the Sabbath commandment. I have quoted two verses that specify the commandments given to mankind in Genesis.

In Exodus the Sabbath commandment was given to Israel and the penalty was also given.

You need to support your claim from Genesis regarding the Sabbath commandment and the penalty.
 
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People don’t realize they only hurt themselves by shutting out the blessing God gives in the Sabbath rest and communion time with our Savior. God bless and thank for sharing God’s Word.
Absolutely. What a blessing many miss out on by rejecting Gods' Word in order to follow man-made teachings and traditions that break the commandments of God. Jesus of course letting us know in Matthew 15:2-9 that by doing this we are not worshiping God. This alone in my view should give us something to pray about if we seriously want to love God and want to follow him. Hope you and your family had a great Sabbath in God's rest and love. God blesses us in His Word. I truly do love Gods' Word which is a lamp to our feet and a light unto the path that is dark and narrow. This is the only place to find Jesus and to know him who loves us with his whole life. We now love him because he first loved us.

God bless sis :wave:
 
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Me, me, me, I will answer that. I love easy questions.

Acts 2:21
And it shall be that everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.

Me winner man.

Why CF website so easy.
What is sad is someone will acknowledge this post of yours as truth by giving it a positive affirmation. The New covenant is not that.
 
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People don’t realize they only hurt themselves by shutting out the blessing God gives in the Sabbath rest and communion time with our Savior. God bless and thank for sharing God’s Word.
Do you not understand why this is a patently false statement? Non-Sabbatarians have a Sabbath rest and communion time with our Savior on the day that our Savior resurrected. I can remember a time that virtually all businesses were closed on Sunday. In the 40s my hometown had 4 drug stores only one could be open on Sunday so people could get their prescriptions.
 
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Are you advising what Jesus did by keeping the Sabbath going to Temple as His custom on the Sabbath day reading God’s Word. Luke 4:16 is a bad example for us?
Jesus and everyone in Israel had to obey the law.

No Gentile nation received the law, hence, no Gentile nation enforced a Sabbath commandment.

History does not mention a Sabbath commandment in the laws of any nation, except the nation of Israel.

Scripture is clear that only Israel was given the law, the land, the temple, priesthood, e.t.c.

You have no evidence to support your wild claims.

We need hard evidence not inference.
 
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Where is the command for gentile Christians to keep the seventh day Sabbath?
It would make no difference you have been asking the same question over and over despite your question being answered over and over through the scriptures. Your question has already been answered through the scriptures already. Your response was to simply ignore the scriptures shared with you most recently in post # 334 linked.

Take Care :wave:
 
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Where is the command for gentile Christians to keep the seventh day Sabbath?
Heb 4:9 So there remains a Sabbath-keeping a for the people of Elohim. (Footnote: a The Greek word is sabattismos, which means Sabbath-keeping.)
Heb 4:10 For the one, having entered into his rest, has himself also rested from his works, as Elohim rested from His own.
 
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Are you saying that verse is a lie?
Do you see the words New Covenant?
Heb 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
 
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