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Biden Drops the Hammer on Unvaccinated

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because there are too many people seeking treatment for co-vid after the decision backfires on them to the point that other things are being canceled and other people are dying of NON-co-vid related things because there are not enough resources. Yes people who took the vaccine are in the hospital, but in TINY numbers compared to the folks to did not 90+ percent do not have the vaccine. If you are at least 18 ( old enough to make medical decisions without anyone's consent you are old enough to have your final affairs in order and be (legally) prepared to meet your maker does not mean you do not feel like you do not have a lot of life to live, but all enough to make that decision old enough to deal with and be prepare for the possible fatal consequence.
I'm always prepared to die. It's part of being a practical person.
No one knows when thier time will be over.
Best avoid it, could have side effects in a few decades.
But you just told me they don't use antibiotics.
 
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No one's saying that, nice try. If you die of heart disease and don't test positive for covid, it's not going to be reported as a factor. If you're asymptomatic and it could've exacerbated the heart disease, then it's likely going to be reported as a comorbidity, but not the primary cause, so I wouldn't necessarily report it as a covid death, but I'm also potentially also leaning towards it as such because we've seen it can exacerbate those pre existing conditions.

If you just don't care and die of heart disease by your own inaction, your vaccination status is only relevant if you contracted symptomatic covid in particular, because the vaccine is meant to reduce hospitalizations and deaths from that
Lol, I was just told not to take treatment for anything if I'm not vaccinated. Maybe you missed that part?
 
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I'm always prepared to die. It's part of being a practical person.
No one knows when thier time will be over.

But you just told me they don't use antibiotics.
but my point was a lot of people do not keep their final affairs in order (particularly younger healthier people because who wants to think about death? If you are old enough to turn down the vaccine though you are old enough to have your final affaires un order ( legally) and old enough to know to accept the consequences for your actions and at this point if those consequences are fatal then so be it better you die because of that choice than someone else die because there is not enough resources to treat everyone. Decisions have consequences sometimes they are fatal make decisions be compared to live with or die for them.
 
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but my point was a lot of people do not keep their final affairs in order (particularly younger healthier people because who wants to think about death? If you are old enough to turn down the vaccine though you are old enough to have your final affaires un order ( legally) and old enough to know to accept the consequences for your actions and at this point if those consequences are fatal then so be it better you die because of that choice than someone else die because there is not enough resources to treat everyone. Decisions have consequences sometimes they are fatal make decisions be compared to live with or die for them.
That's got nothing to do with whether we should seek treatment.
 
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But you just told me they don't use antibiotics.

And you linked to one without a long track record, best avoid it could cause awful things a decade from now or does that fear mongering only apply to the vaccination?
 
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That's got nothing to do with whether we should seek treatment.
The treatment and ICU practices are all part of it, best not risk problem a decade hence. Stay away.
 
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And you linked to one without a long track record, best avoid it could cause awful things a decade from now or does that fear mongering only apply to the vaccination?
Do a little studying and you might understand the difference.
 
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Did the ICU invent the vaccine? You aren't making sense.
The entire medical community is in on it, best avoid them all lest something awful happen down the road.
 
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Do a little studying and you might understand the difference.
Sure. In the meantime out of an abundance of caution best avoid any medical care lest you get a provider who’s in on it and puts some vaccine in your salad dressing.
 
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The entire medical community is in on it, best avoid them all lest something awful happen down the road.
Mocking and putting you ignorance on display isn't really helpful. You should not argue about things you clearly don't have knowledge about.
 
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Forcing you to take a shot or lose your job? Sounds like tyranny to me.
Is this the government or the Mafia?

I said his notion of tyranny was odd, not unique.
 
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Mocking and putting you ignorance on display isn't really helpful. You should not argue about things you clearly don't have knowledge about.
Sorry you feel that way.
 
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Lol, I was just told not to take treatment for anything if I'm not vaccinated. Maybe you missed that part?
So ask a qualifier that isn't dishonest in regards to how they phrased the statement. They mean don't take treatment from a hospital if you have symptomatic covid, unless you're so deluded you don't even believe it's real, in which case you're already digging your own grace
 
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Mocking and putting you ignorance on display isn't really helpful. You should not argue about things you clearly don't have knowledge about.
Pst, I think they were being sarcastic, don't assume you know their tone immediately.
 
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