Biden Drops the Hammer on Unvaccinated

[Desk trauma]

So, we should take the jab not knowing?

Nah, just reject the rest of medical care along with it and stay home so the hospitals can cope.

 

[renniks]

No, because I cannot say absolutely or would claim that everyone who's unvaccinated willfully and has no legitimate reasons voted for Trump, for example, or even that they're Republican.

Maybe right leaning, but that's pretty vague and could apply to people who are otherwise not that irrational and actually would be considered semi progressive and forward thinking. But they let their confirmation bias ruin any sense of humility or intellectual discussion because of emotional entanglement to an issue that doesn't necessarily require it to this extent

Or maybe they just have enough common sense not to take an untested substance into their body, and politics has nothing to do with it...

 

[renniks]

Nah, just reject the rest of medical care along with it and stay home so the hospitals can cope.

So if I die of heart disease it's my fault because I didn't get vaccinated?
Does not compute.

 

[dogs4thewin]

So, we should take the jab not knowing?

at this rate yes. In fact I do not know if you have read all 900ish replies but I shared some HARSH words for the people who do not earlier in this thread. Pretty much you old enough to refuse the vaccine you are old enough to be legally prepared to die. Get your final affairs in order and do not seek treatment if that decision backfires on you.

 

[Desk trauma]

So if I die of heart disease it's my fault because I didn't get vaccinated?
Does not compute.

It was a straight forward comment, sorry it’s causing computational issues on your end.

 

[muichimotsu]

Or maybe they just have enough common sense not to take an untested substance into their body, and politics has nothing to do with it...

Common sense is appealing to mere commonality, which is ad populum fallacy, nice try of this idea that sense is necessarily common in a modern time where we get bombarded with so much information we're more likely to make poor decisions when we have no impulse control


It's VERY tested, actually and politics has everything to do with it because it was needlessly politicized in the conspiracy theories the former president brought up, plus misinformation that has gotten people killed because we think everyone's totally smart enough to make their own decisions and then they prove us wrong

 

[renniks]

at this rate yes. In fact I do not know if you have read all 900ish replies but I shared some HARH words for the people who do not earlier in this thread. Pretty much you old enough ti refuse the vaccine you are old enough to be legally prepared to die. Get your final affairs in order and do not seek treatment if that decision backfires on you.

Lol, all this for a 1 percent chance of death?
Why would I not seek treatment? Vaccinated people are seeking treatment for covid. Guess it didn't work so well for them.

 

[renniks]

It was a straight forward comment, sorry it’s causing computational issues on your end.

Straightforward does not equal logical.

 

[Desk trauma]

Lol, all this for a 1 percent chance of death?
Why would I not seek treatment?

May have side effects years down the road, best avoid it along with the vaccination.

 

[renniks]

Common sense is appealing to mere commonality, which is ad populum fallacy, nice try of this idea that sense is necessarily common in a modern time where we get bombarded with so much information we're more likely to make poor decisions when we have no impulse control


It's VERY tested, actually and politics has everything to do with it because it was needlessly politicized in the conspiracy theories the former president brought up, plus misinformation that has gotten people killed because we think everyone's totally smart enough to make their own decisions and then they prove us wrong

And the thousands and thousands of people claiming side effects are lying, but the government is honest? Again, not common sense.

 

[Desk trauma]

Straightforward does not equal logical.

But your post does equal disingenuousness.

 

[renniks]

May have side effects years down the road, best avoid it along with the vaccination.

Side effects from antibiotics? I'm pretty sure those have been tested way more than the vaccine.

 

[Vylo]

Bad choices are not a good reason to not treat someone. We are repeating ourselves so good day.

You do realize that is exactly a reason some people are not treated right? ever try to get a liver transplant as a drinker, or a lung transplant as a smoker?

 

[Desk trauma]

Side effects from antibiotics? .

Antibiotics aren’t used to treat COVID.

 

[dogs4thewin]

Lol, all this for a 1 percent chance of death?
Why would I not seek treatment? Vaccinated people are seeking treatment for covid. Guess it didn't work so well for them.

because there are too many people seeking treatment for co-vid after the decision backfires on them to the point that other things are being canceled and other people are dying of NON-co-vid related things because there are not enough resources. Yes people who took the vaccine are in the hospital, but in TINY numbers compared to the folks to did not 90+ percent do not have the vaccine. If you are at least 18 ( old enough to make medical decisions without anyone's consent you are old enough to have your final affairs in order and be (legally) prepared to meet your maker does not mean you do not feel like you do not have a lot of life to live, but old enough to make that decision old enough to deal with and be prepare for the possible fatal consequence.

 

[dogs4thewin]

And the thousands and thousands of people claiming side effects are lying, but the government is honest? Again, not common sense.

Of how many people who took he vaccine?

 

[renniks]

Antibiotics aren’t used to treat COVID.

Casirivimab/imdevimab, sold under the brand name REGEN-COV among others, is a medicine developed by the American biotechnology company Regeneron Pharmaceuticals. It is an artificial "antibody cocktail" designed to produce resistance against the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus responsible for the COVID-19 pandemic.

That's not an antibiotic?

 

[Desk trauma]

Casirivimab/imdevimab, sold under the brand name REGEN-COV among others, is a medicine developed by the American biotechnology company Regeneron Pharmaceuticals. It is an artificial "antibody cocktail" designed to produce resistance against the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus responsible for the COVID-19 pandemic.

That's not an antibiotic?

Best avoid it, could have side effects in a few decades.

 

[muichimotsu]

So if I die of heart disease it's my fault because I didn't get vaccinated?
Does not compute.

No one's saying that, nice try. If you die of heart disease and don't test positive for covid, it's not going to be reported as a factor. If you're asymptomatic and it could've exacerbated the heart disease, then it's likely going to be reported as a comorbidity, but not the primary cause, so I wouldn't necessarily report it as a covid death, but I'm also potentially also leaning towards it as such because we've seen it can exacerbate those pre existing conditions.

If you just don't care and die of heart disease by your own inaction, your vaccination status is only relevant if you contracted symptomatic covid in particular, because the vaccine is meant to reduce hospitalizations and deaths from that

 

[muichimotsu]

Casirivimab/imdevimab, sold under the brand name REGEN-COV among others, is a medicine developed by the American biotechnology company Regeneron Pharmaceuticals. It is an artificial "antibody cocktail" designed to produce resistance against the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus responsible for the COVID-19 pandemic.

That's not an antibiotic?

So this one thing that happens to have preventative treatment capacity must mean every antibiotic works? Hasty generalization!