Biden Drops the Hammer on Unvaccinated

[Vylo]

The real word is that the unvaccinated are not killing people. Covid is. Your uncaring attitude is noted. Thanks for the discussion.

And they are spreading covid. Also it isn't just covid, people are dying waiting for non-covid medical care because hospitals are clogged with unvaccinated needed treatment.

 

[Clizby WampusCat]

Things do not exist simply because we will them to. They have to have some semblance of reality. You keep harping on solutions, but offer none. I offer them. You may not like them, but they will address the problem at hand.

I never said things exist just because I want them to. I said we need to find a solution. I have no solution because I have no expertise in the field. If I had the ability to help people to find solutions I would. We will never find a solution if we never look. The President has the power to get the people together that can solve it.

You said you don't care about finding a solution so thanks for the discussion.

 

[Clizby WampusCat]

And they are spreading covid. Also it isn't just covid, people are dying waiting for non-covid medical care because hospitals are clogged with unvaccinated needed treatment.

ok

 

[Desk trauma]

I am pro vaccines

Lol, sure.

 

[Vylo]

I never said things exist just because I want them to. I said we need to find a solution. I have no solution because I have no expertise in the field. If I had the ability to help people to find solutions I would. We will never find a solution if we never look. The President has the power to get the people together that can solve it.

You said you don't care about finding a solution so thanks for the discussion.

Oh no, I care about finding a solution. I found several. We have experts in the field, they told everyone to get vaccinated, so there is your solution. You don't always get the solution you want, but you can quite often get the one you need.

 

[dogs4thewin]

I never said things exist just because I want them to. I said we need to find a solution. I have no solution because I have no expertise in the field. If I had the ability to help people to find solutions I would. We will never find a solution if we never look. The President has the power to get the people together that can solve it.

You said you don't care about finding a solution so thanks for the discussion.

We have a solution a vaccine if you choose not to get it then that is on you, It is not forced, but do not complain about the consequences when it backfires.

 

[Clizby WampusCat]

Lol, sure.

I am, I am fully vaccinated and advocate people get them. Show me where I have ever said no one should get the vaccine? I have been advocating for convincing people to get the vaccine. You obviously are not listening so thanks for the conversation.

 

[Clizby WampusCat]

We have a solution a vaccine if you choose not to get it then that is on you, It is not forced, but do not complain about the consequences when it backfires.

Bad choices are not a good reason to not treat someone. We are repeating ourselves so good day.

 

[Desk trauma]

I am, I am fully vaccinated and advocate people get them. Show me where I have ever said no one should get the vaccine? I have been advocating for convincing people to get the vaccine. You obviously are not listening so thanks for the conversation.

I’m against drunk driving, I tell people not to do it and would never do it myself. Its just awful that people get thrown in jail for it we should talk to them about it and persuaded them to stop.

 

[dogs4thewin]

Bad choices are not a good reason to not treat someone. We are repeating ourselves so good day.

What do you propose with limited resources?

 

[Desk trauma]

Bad choices are not a good reason to not treat someone. We are repeating ourselves so good day.

They are when they are causing others to not have access to care due out stripping out our resources and it’s all avoidable with a free vaccination.

 

[renniks]

What an odd notion of tyranny.

Forcing you to take a shot or lose your job? Sounds like tyranny to me.
Is this the government or the Mafia?

 

[Desk trauma]

Forcing you to take a shot or lose your job? Sounds like tyranny to me.
Is this the government or the Mafia?

It’s every hospital, nursing home, medical and nursing school etc in the country well before this strain of covid existed, vaccination mandates for employment are not new.

 

[dogs4thewin]

Forcing you to take a shot or lose your job? Sounds like tyranny to me.
Is this the government or the Mafia?

Employers can ( for the most part) set whatever rules they like.

 

[dogs4thewin]

It’s every hospital, nursing home etc in the country well before this strain of covid existed, vaccination mandates for employment are not new.

Nor are they for school attendance the other big issue.

 

[renniks]

Employers can ( for the most part) set whatever rules they like.

Not even close.
Can I decide to hire only white people as an employer if I want?

 

[dogs4thewin]

Not even close.
Can I decide to hire only white people as an employer if I want?

nope but most other things that are not in a protected class.

 

[Desk trauma]

Not even close.
Can I decide to hire only white people as an employer if I want?

Nope.

You can require they get vaccinated as a condition of hire and continued employment.

 

[renniks]

nope but most other things that are not in a protected class.

Which is a small percentage. Employers can not make whatever rules they like. You can not discriminate for any reason.

 

[muichimotsu]

The Novavax has been tested and is safe for infants. That was my point. It is very safe. Tested and proper trials... but.. all you here is Phiser and Moderna.

Oh, and another thing that is "taboo" to talk about is Ivermectin. It is being given in home kits to people in Ecuador by the government. It was used in India to stop the death toll there. WHO told India to stop using it and now the Bar in India is charging the doctor for WHO for telling them not to use Ivermectin.

No, there's also J&J, you're horribly misinformed on that, first off

And no, ivermectin is anti parasite and hasn't remotely been tested enough to show anything significant. Plus, the incidents you bring up are in less developed countries with more limited vaccine access (Ecuador) or those that have significant misinformation problems (India). Don't act like this is just a universally accepted thing, because only regeneron and recimidivir treatments have validity because 1) they've been tested thoroughly and more importantly, 2) they're antiviral or specifically targeting viruses by their nature, not the equivalent of dewormer.