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Biden Drops the Hammer on Unvaccinated

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The day when those other types of people are flooding the hospital needing treatment all at the same time to the point that other people cannot get treated on time I will agree with you.
Would you be the one telling them to go home and die?
 
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Agreed. But if I do I will be cared for. BTW, I am vaccinated.
Well if you are vaccinated those are the ones who "deserve" ( for lack of a better word) to get treatment at the hospital at this point.
 
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Would you be the one telling them to go home and die?
At this point way I look at it with so many people flooding the hospitals that refused the vaccine and later get co-vid you old enough to refuse the vaccine on your own free will ( the age of majority( 18) you are old enough that same age of majority to have your final affairs in order if the gamble backfires on you. It is fine to not get the vaccine, but do not seek help if that choice backfires on you.
 
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Only under certain circumstances. They are only required to stabilize you, not treat you.
yup like I said you can be in poor health and still be stable.
 
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Well if you are vaccinated those are the ones who "deserve" ( for lack of a better word) to get treatment at the hospital at this point.
Why? Everyone deserves healthcare that needs it no matter their choices. Also, God can just heal these people and alleviate the problem right? Until then science based medicine will have to deal with the pandemic.
 
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At this point way I look at it with so many people flooding the hospitals that refused the vaccine and later get co-vid you old enough to refuse the vaccine on your own free will ( the age of majority( 18) you are old enough that same age of majority to have your final affairs in order if the gamble backfires on you. It is fine to not get the vaccine, but do not seek help if that choice backfires on you.
What a cold hearted response. WWJD?
 
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Only under certain circumstances. They are only required to stabilize you, not treat you.
Agreed, but this was in response to someone asking why we have the right to someone else's labor.
 
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Why? Everyone deserves healthcare that needs it no matter their choices. Also, God can just heal these people and alleviate the problem right? Until then science based medicine will have to deal with the pandemic.
The problem is that there are too many people needing care and not everyone is getting it. People are dying of unrelated issues because the hospitals are so overrun with people who (probably) would not be there if they had made one very simple free choice. If it was like normal where hospitals were not overrun that would be one thing, but since they are everyone's care suffers and in some cases people do not get it on time.
 
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You are advocating something different. To send people home without any treatment to die.
yes, because once they are stable does not mean that if they are removed from a hospital setting they are likely to survive.
 
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What a cold hearted response. WWJD?
that respond is because there is NOT enough people to care for the people who need it ( even if their reason for care has nothing to do with co-vid. God also gave us a brain to use.
 
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So they say. Seems odd to me but <Shrug>
My point was that it is not 1/4 of the US..... but, rather, 1/3 of millennials. And, they just don't believe that it is round.... maybe an oblique spheroid?

I cannot read the article much more than the headline so ... sorry cannot read it all.
 
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Why? Everyone deserves healthcare that needs it no matter their choices. Also, God can just heal these people and alleviate the problem right? Until then science based medicine will have to deal with the pandemic.
And everyone isn’t able to get healthcare right now because there aren’t enough resources for everyone, due to the unvaccinated. So what do you propose we do? Just let people die in the hallways and waiting rooms?
 
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You think that the pharmaceutical companies are doing all of this for free?
Never claimed that, you clearly didn't read the full post, because I acknowledge they have money and that is where the funding is going. There isn't an immediate charge to people getting the vaccine, so it isn't some inconvenience and is actually aiding in accessibility to vital healthcare, something America does a very poor job at for the most part.
 
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And everyone isn’t able to get healthcare right now because there aren’t enough resources for everyone, due to the unvaccinated. So what do you propose we do? Just let people die in the hallways and waiting rooms?
thank you if there were enough resources that would be a LOT different.
 
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