Acting on the The Equality Act

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Restrooms are suppose to provide safe space for women. They should have the right
not to have males intruding upon those safe spaces and we as males should be providing
those safe spaces.

That's a far cry from a business refusing to sell a product to a transgendered person.

Equality doesn't mean that we do not discriminate for rational reasons. Equality is
having respect for others and not harassing them because they're different.
unless they are trans...

giving equal opportunity in education and career development.

However, we discriminate against kids by not allowing them to drive cars or vote.

We discriminate against non citizens by not allowing them to vote in our elections.

We discriminate against people with physical disabilities by not allowing them to serve
in the US military.

none of these are discrimination.

Discrimination is the prejudicial or disadvantageous treatment of an individual based on his or her membership - or perceived membership - in of a minority. Discrimination restricts members of a minority group from opportunities or privileges that are available to the majority group, leading to the exclusion of the individual based on minority membership and not on an individual’s behavior or character.
 
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none of these are discrimination.

Discrimination is the prejudicial or disadvantageous treatment of an individual based on his or her membership - or perceived membership - in of a minority. Discrimination restricts members of a minority group from opportunities or privileges that are available to the majority group, leading to the exclusion of the individual based on minority membership and not on an individual’s behavior or character.

Then you're ignoring the entire meaning of the word, "discrimination."
Yes it can be against a race or group of people, but also;

Discrimination
2.
recognition and understanding of the difference between one thing and another.
"discrimination between right and wrong"

And yes, women should have the right to feel safe when using a ladies room or shower room without a male coming in, even when the male is dressed like a girl.
 
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It’s one thing to have male strength competing against female when it’s in the open but any masquerade into women’s bathroom stalls is a rape waiting to happen. There is no safety buffer in a case like that. jus sayin'
 
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It’s one thing to have male strength competing against female when it’s in the open but any masquerade into women’s bathroom stalls is a rape waiting to happen. There is no safety buffer in a case like that. jus sayin'
which is why such rapes happen thousands of times a year.....
 
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I think that the OP meant "gender" instead of sex.

I think it would be very helpful for all of us to learn what transgenderism is both from the scientific and religious viewpoints.

There is an aphorism, coined in the Marriage Encounter movement: God doesn't make junk.

If that is true, then why do we try so hard to "fix" those who are transgender or gay?

The first step is understanding and we all need to learn. For example, I don't understand non-binary at all and especially the pronouns used.

So is there a biological basis? A DNA connection? Is it psychological only? I really don't know but I would like to.

So God doesn't make junk. But we are "fixing" our children every day to cure physical and learning disabilities.

But maybe SSA or transgenderism is unfixable. Like genetic conditions, or blindness.

So do we tell people they're junk? Those are my honest questions.

Of gender and sex, there are only two - male and female.

Of popular distortions, they come from twisted and perverse places - unsuitable for civilization.
 
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Bigotry is never justified.

It wasn't bigotry but how rational discrimination is used in society.

Do you think not letting children drive cars is bigotry ?
 
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the truth is that there are many more than two...but i am not sure you actually interested in truth

There is no scientific evidence supporting the idea that there are more than two genders.

When you buy a dog, do you ask for a male, female or non-binary one ?

Of course you ask for either a male of female

Same is true for humans. There is only male and female.

Sure, there are humans with gender dysphoria, but that's only .08% of the human population and the majority are males. 70% of the children with gender dysphoria if left alone, will grow out of it.

Great damage is being done to young girls who suddenly decide they're men and want to start taking hormones and even have surgery done. Parents do great harm in supporting such thinking.
 
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It wasn't bigotry but how rational discrimination is used in society.
the meaning of the word fits...or are you saying that HERE context applies?

Do you think not letting children drive cars is bigotry ?
you claimed it was discrimination, but it isn't and its silly to try to claim that it is
 
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There is no scientific evidence supporting the idea that there are more than two genders.

When you buy a dog, do you ask for a male, female or non-binary one ?

Of course you ask for either a male of female

Same is true for humans. There is only male and female.

Sure, there are humans with gender dysphoria, but that's only .08% of the human population and the majority are males. 70% of the children with gender dysphoria if left alone, will grow out of it.

Great damage is being done to young girls who suddenly decide they're men and want to start taking hormones and even have surgery done. Parents do great harm in supporting such thinking.

Only 0.8% in a world of billions of people equates to more with gender dysphoria than there are people in the entire United States. Assuming that is an accurate number. That's no small number of people. If the world were at 6 billion people that's over 480 million. United States has somewhere around $300 million in comparison.

There are closer to 8 billion people on Earth which means that by this number, the total quantity of people with gender dysphoria would be roughly double the population of the entire United States.

Or greater than 600 million people.
 
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There is no scientific evidence supporting the idea that there are more than two genders.
Stop Using Phony Science to Justify Transphobia

defining gender [as binary] has no basis in science

Great damage is being done to young girls who suddenly decide they're men and want to start taking hormones and even have surgery done. Parents do great harm in supporting such thinking.
the evidence doesn't support this claim


But there is evidence that the prejudice you put out actually does cause damage. SO why do you keep doing it?
 
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the meaning of the word fits...or are you saying that HERE context applies?

you claimed it was discrimination, but it isn't and its silly to try to claim that it is

We discriminate on a variety of issues and for good reason. Not all are about racial or gender discrimination, but "rational" discrimination like not allowing children to drive cars.

I'm saying that there is justification for discrimination and not allowing a male to go into the ladies room, is justified discrimination.
 
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Only 0.8% in a world of billions of people equates to more with gender dysphoria than there are people in the entire United States. Assuming that is an accurate number. That's no small number of people. If the world were at 6 billion people that's over 480 million. United States has somewhere around $300 million in comparison.

There are closer to 8 billion people on Earth which means that by this number, the total quantity of people with gender dysphoria would be roughly double the population of the entire United States.

Or greater than 600 million people.

I googled it, but I recall the .08% number, but the doctor may have been just stating the stats for the US.

This is what google came up with;

Prevalence of Gender Dysphoria
According to the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fifth Edition, gender dysphoria prevalence accounts for 0.005–0.014% of the population for biological males and 0.002–0.003% for biological females.Apr 16, 2021

Gender Dysphoria Statistics - The Recovery Village Drug and Alcohol Rehab
 
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We discriminate on a variety of issues and for good reason.
there is never a good reason

Not all are about racial or gender discrimination, but "rational" discrimination
In this context it is.

like not allowing children to drive cars.
not allowing children to have a driver's licence is based on the qualifications of having a driver's licence. Refusing to hire someone to perform surgery because they don't have the education, training and experience to safely perform surgery is not discrimination. If you however won't hire a potential surgeon because they are black regardless of qualifications is discrimination. Pulling the alternate definition of discrimination ploy that you have done here is just a way of making yourself feel better about actual discrimination against minorities


I'm saying that there is justification for discrimination and not allowing a male to go into the ladies room, is justified discrimination.
and a generation ago people said that it is justifiable discrimination to not allow African American's to use the same restrooms as white people.
 
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I googled it, but I recall the .08% number, but the doctor may have been just stating the stats for the US.

This is what google came up with;

Prevalence of Gender Dysphoria
According to the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fifth Edition, gender dysphoria prevalence accounts for 0.005–0.014% of the population for biological males and 0.002–0.003% for biological females.Apr 16, 2021

Gender Dysphoria Statistics - The Recovery Village Drug and Alcohol Rehab


0.08% is the number of people who are transgender
 
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