Acting on the The Equality Act

[JimR-OCDS]

there is never a good reason

In this context it is.

not allowing children to have a driver's licence is based on the qualifications of having a driver's licence. Refusing to hire someone to perform surgery because they don't have the education, training and experience to safely perform surgery is not discrimination. If you however won't hire a potential surgeon because they are black regardless of qualifications is discrimination. Pulling the alternate definition of discrimination ploy that you have done here is just a way of making yourself feel better about actual discrimination against minorities



and a generation ago people said that it is justifiable discrimination to not allow African American's to use the same restrooms as white people.

You're trying to change the complete definition on the word, "discrimination."

As I posted earlier, it's not always about race and gender, but other issues as in your example about discriminating against people who don't have the qualifications to drive a car or perform surgery.

Don't compare gender identification with race, they're two different things.

A person can't change their race, but the majority of children who first identify with gender dysphoria, grow out of it.

Discriminating against a person because of race is wrong.

Discriminating against a male who wants to use the ladies locker room is justified.

 

[Job 33:6]

I googled it, but I recall the .08% number, but the doctor may have been just stating the stats for the US.

This is what google came up with;

Prevalence of Gender Dysphoria
According to the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fifth Edition, gender dysphoria prevalence accounts for 0.005–0.014% of the population for biological males and 0.002–0.003% for biological females.Apr 16, 2021

Gender Dysphoria Statistics - The Recovery Village Drug and Alcohol Rehab

Here's an interesting one:
Intersex - Wikipedia

"The number of births with ambiguous genitals is in the range of 0.02% to 0.05%."

I wonder if all people with ambiguous genitals also experience gender dysphoria.

DISORDERS OF SEX DEVELOPMENT

nondimorphic sexual development″ might be as high as 1.7%.[10][11]

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These really are massive numbers considering the quantity of people in America and in earth.

 

[JimR-OCDS]

there is never a good reason

In this context it is.

not allowing children to have a driver's licence is based on the qualifications of having a driver's licence. Refusing to hire someone to perform surgery because they don't have the education, training and experience to safely perform surgery is not discrimination. If you however won't hire a potential surgeon because they are black regardless of qualifications is discrimination. Pulling the alternate definition of discrimination ploy that you have done here is just a way of making yourself feel better about actual discrimination against minorities



and a generation ago people said that it is justifiable discrimination to not allow African American's to use the same restrooms as white people.

Here's an interesting one:
Intersex - Wikipedia

"The number of births with ambiguous genitals is in the range of 0.02% to 0.05%."

I wonder if all people with ambiguous genitals also experience gender dysphoria.

DISORDERS OF SEX DEVELOPMENT

nondimorphic sexual development″ might be as high as 1.7%.[10][11]

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These really are massive numbers considering the quantity of people in America and in earth.

The bottom line is, gender dysphoria is far less than what the media is portraying today where you'd think the population was as great as homosexuals. It's not.

In fact, homosexuality and gender dysphoria are different things and many homosexuals
are distancing themselves from the transgendered groups as they don't like their politics nor the laws they're getting passed.

 

[Aldebaran]

Only 0.8% in a world of billions of people equates to more with gender dysphoria than there are people in the entire United States. Assuming that is an accurate number. That's no small number of people. If the world were at 6 billion people that's over 480 million. United States has somewhere around $300 million in comparison.

There are closer to 8 billion people on Earth which means that by this number, the total quantity of people with gender dysphoria would be roughly double the population of the entire United States.

Or greater than 600 million people.

And out of those 600 million, 420 million (70%) will grow out of it.

 

[Job 33:6]

And out of those 600 million, 420 million (70%) will grow out of it.

Tell that to those with ambiguous genitals.

"They have breasts! They should be in the women's bathroom, No! They have male parts downstairs, send them to the men's! Wait no, my male child doesn't feel comfortable with female breasts in the locker room! We must ban them from using public restrooms all-together and make them go outside by a tree!"

 

[SilverBear]

And out of those 600 million, 420 million (70%) will grow out of it.

Evidence?

 

[SilverBear]

You're trying to change the complete definition on the word, "discrimination."

At the same time you seem to be trying to force a definition of a word that doesn't match how it is being used.

As I posted earlier, it's not always about race and gender, but other issues as in your example about discriminating against people who don't have the qualifications to drive a car or perform surgery.

How are either of these things discrimination?

Don't compare gender identification with race, they're two different things.

but discrimination is the same no matter who it is directed against and the excuses for discrimination are usually the same as well.

The arguments about transgender individuals and public rest rooms echo the arguments used to keep public restrooms segregated by race Making the comparison legitimate. If you don't like the comparison maybe you need to look at the arguments you are using and why the same argument is justified when used against one minority but insulting when that same argument is used against a different minority.

A person can't change their race, but the majority of children who first identify with gender dysphoria, grow out of it.

I think you are saying gender dysphoria when you mean transgender.

Discriminating against a person because of race is wrong.

As is discriminating against a person because they are transgender

Discriminating against a male who wants to use the ladies locker room is justified.

This isn't discrimination against males it's discrimination against transgendered

 

[Aldebaran]

Evidence?

Oops! Not 70%, but actually 94%
Research On Children ‘Growing Out’ Of Gender Dysphoria Adds Layer Of Complexity To Transgender Care

 

[Fr. Appletree]

There is room for the fringe and the exception when they don't attempt to take over the rule. It is exactly the transgender nonsense that would provoke such a reaction against actual hermaphroditic people, otherwise there would be no impetus to do so to begin with.

 

[Fr. Appletree]

At the same time you seem to be trying to force a definition of a word that doesn't match how it is being used.

How are either of these things discrimination?

but discrimination is the same no matter who it is directed against and the excuses for discrimination are usually the same as well.

The arguments about transgender individuals and public rest rooms echo the arguments used to keep public restrooms segregated by race Making the comparison legitimate. If you don't like the comparison maybe you need to look at the arguments you are using and why the same argument is justified when used against one minority but insulting when that same argument is used against a different minority.
I think you are saying gender dysphoria when you mean transgender.

As is discriminating against a person because they are transgender

This isn't discrimination against males it's discrimination against transgendered

There is no such thing as transgender. It is not a real category. Anything saying otherwise is nonsense from perversity peddlers.

 

[SilverBear]

Oops! Not 70%, but actually 94%
Research On Children ‘Growing Out’ Of Gender Dysphoria Adds Layer Of Complexity To Transgender Care

Not evidence. This is a news summary that references an article Jon Brooks, an expert in gender dysphoria. His article does not support your claims and in fact calls into question the legitimacy of the studies used to make those claims by noting that more than a third of the children who "outgrew" their gender dysphoria didn't actually meet criteria to be diagnosed as having gender dysphoria in the first place and half of those that did qualify never followed up with the researcher however any that didn't follow up were placed in the "outgrew" category.

Brooks also states that gender dysphoria is not an indicator of identity. When children with GD are directly asked “Are you a boy or a girl?” those who answered the opposite of their birth sex were the ones who retain that gender identity into adolescence and adulthood.

 

[SilverBear]

There is no such thing as transgender. It is not a real category. Anything saying otherwise is nonsense from perversity peddlers.

Pretending something doesn't exist won't make it go away.

 

[Aldebaran]

Not evidence. This is a news summary that references an article Jon Brooks, an expert in gender dysphoria. His article does not support your claims and in fact calls into question the legitimacy of the studies used to make those claims by noting that more than a third of the children who "outgrew" their gender dysphoria didn't actually meet criteria to be diagnosed as having gender dysphoria in the first place and half of those that did qualify never followed up with the researcher however any that didn't follow up were placed in the "outgrew" category.

Brooks also states that gender dysphoria is not an indicator of identity. When children with GD are directly asked “Are you a boy or a girl?” those who answered the opposite of their birth sex were the ones who retain that gender identity into adolescence and adulthood.

Thanks for your claims. Now where's your evidence?

 

[Aldebaran]

The Nazi's said the same thing about Jews
Racists said the same thing about blacks
Homophobes said the same thing about gays

New minority same falsehood

Ok, then let's take their own words for it:
San Francisco Gay Men's Chorus faces backlash for 'we're coming for your children' video

"You think that we’ll corrupt your kids, if our agenda goes unchecked," one of the members sings. "Funny, just this once, you’re correct."

"We’ll convert your children. Happens bit by bit. Quietly and subtly. And you will barely notice it. You can keep them from disco. Warn about San Francisco. Make ’em wear pleated pants. We don’t care. We’ll convert your children. We’ll make them tolerant and fair."

Later, the lyrics continue: "We’ll convert your children. Someone’s gotta teach them not to hate. We’re coming for them. We’re coming for your children. We’re coming for them. We’re coming for them. We’re coming for your children."

"Your children will care about," the chorus adds, "fairness and justice for others. Your children will work to convert all their sisters and brothers. Then soon we’re almost certain, your kids will start converting you!"

"The gay agenda is coming home. The gay agenda is here! But you don't have to worry because there's nothing wrong with standing by our side."

 

[Job 33:6]

Ok, then let's take their own words for it:
San Francisco Gay Men's Chorus faces backlash for 'we're coming for your children' video

"You think that we’ll corrupt your kids, if our agenda goes unchecked," one of the members sings. "Funny, just this once, you’re correct."

"We’ll convert your children. Happens bit by bit. Quietly and subtly. And you will barely notice it. You can keep them from disco. Warn about San Francisco. Make ’em wear pleated pants. We don’t care. We’ll convert your children. We’ll make them tolerant and fair."

Later, the lyrics continue: "We’ll convert your children. Someone’s gotta teach them not to hate. We’re coming for them. We’re coming for your children. We’re coming for them. We’re coming for them. We’re coming for your children."

"Your children will care about," the chorus adds, "fairness and justice for others. Your children will work to convert all their sisters and brothers. Then soon we’re almost certain, your kids will start converting you!"

"The gay agenda is coming home. The gay agenda is here! But you don't have to worry because there's nothing wrong with standing by our side."

I guess you missed the part about the conversion not having to do with being gay, but rather converting them to "care about fairness and justice for others" and "turning your children into accepting, caring people" and "teach them not to hate".

Where did they describe the gay agenda as having anything to do with rape?

I would rather have a child that cares about fairness and justice for others, that doesn't hate, than to have a child who goes around calling gays rapists.

 

[Fr. Appletree]

The Nazi's said the same thing about Jews
Racists said the same thing about blacks
Homophobes said the same thing about gays

New minority same falsehood

Homophobe isn't a real category. Homosexualism is a child rape ideology. Comparing it to the Nazis comes from profound historical ignorance.

 

[Fr. Appletree]

I guess you missed the part about the conversion not having to do with being gay, but rather converting them to "care about fairness and justice for others" and "turning your children into accepting, caring people" and "teach them not to hate".

Where did they describe the gay agenda as having anything to do with rape?

The gay agenda, homosexualism, is for the grooming and sex abuse of children. It always is and always will be. That is why there should be no civil toleration of these perverts.

 

[Job 33:6]

The gay agenda, homosexualism, is for the grooming and sex abuse of children. It always is and always will be. That is why there should be no civil toleration of these perverts.

That's not what they said in the video. They said it was about teaching people not to hate.

Did you read the lyrics?

 

[Fr. Appletree]

That's not what they said in the video. They said it was about teaching people not to hate.

Did you read the lyrics?

Yeah, because love is love. So the kind of love I have for Italian ice is the same as love for another human. I guess cannibalism is okay because love is love.

In this way they confound love with hate.

 

[St. Helens]

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