12 Mississippi children in ICU, 10 on ventilators

[keith99]

https://www.sunherald.com/news/coronavirus/article252748863.html

But Covid only impacts the old.

Not the Delta variant it seems.

 

[ironbjorn]

CORRECTION: 7 MS children are in ICUs with COVID, with 2 on ventilators, Dobbs says

 

[ironbjorn]

And that's really bad, but the tiniest of percents that this is, isn't alarming. More scare tactics.

 

[Fantine]

If they were under 12 they couldn’t get the vaccine. If only their families were responsible and caring enough to get vaccinated themselves they probably would have stayed well.

 

[ironbjorn]

If they were under 12 they couldn’t get the vaccine. If only their families were responsible and caring enough to get vaccinated themselves they probably would have stayed well.

7% of those recent Covid deaths were vaccinated people, coinciding with Pfizer's now 93% effectiveness rate. 7 children in the whole state is insignificant statistically, and could have very well come from vaccinated families. But you go ahead and continue your shameful shaming crusade that you try to mask with sincerity.

 

[Taodeching]

https://www.sunherald.com/news/coronavirus/article252748863.html

But Covid only impacts the old.

Not the Delta variant it seems.

Those who are anti-vaxxers will not care and will spin it, I have seen it here many times

 

[mark46]

7% of those recent Covid deaths were vaccinated people,.

please provide a reference for this. Thank you.

 

[ironbjorn]

please provide a reference for this. Thank you.

Literally in the article the OP posted, along with the correction of 7 children in the state in the hospital with 2 on ventilators, not 12 and 10.

 

[ironbjorn]

0.0008% of people under the age of 18 are in the hospital with Covid in Mississippi. Much less terrifying, so the headlines won't tell it that way.

 

[mark46]

Literally in the article the OP posted, along with the correction of 7 children in the state in the hospital with 2 on ventilators, not 12 and 10.

I apologize; the percentage is there. If this data is true elsewhere, this is greatest change in the virus in a year. Of the over 150 million that have been vaccinated, the CDC reports 750 deaths.
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The 93% Pfizer number is NOT, is NOT the number that survive. If exposed to the disease only 7% of those who have been vaccinated will be infected. Almost none will die, certainly well under 1% of the total number of vaccinated.

Thus far 4100 of those vaccinated in the US have been haspitalized; 750 have died.

Covid breakthrough cases: CDC says more than 4,100 people have been hospitalized or died after vaccination (cnbc.com)

 

[Mark Quayle]

7% of those recent Covid deaths were vaccinated people, coinciding with Pfizer's now 93% effectiveness rate. 7 children in the whole state is insignificant statistically, and could have very well come from vaccinated families. But you go ahead and continue your shameful shaming crusade that you try to mask with sincerity.

Even that doesn't make sense. How does 7% of deaths were vaccinated people, mean 93% effectiveness? How many people got it, unvaccinated, and survived? Or has statistics become so mangled that it is now because of vaccinations that anyone survives it?

 

[ironbjorn]

I apologize; the percentage is there. If this data is true elsewhere, this is greatest change in the virus in a year. Of the over 150 million that have been vaccinated, the CDC reports 4100 deaths.
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The 93% Pfizer number is NOT, is NOT the number that survive. If exposed to the disease only 7% of those who have been vaccinated will be infected. Almost none will die, certainly well under 1% of the total number of vaccinated.

You can't say that when 7% of Mississippi Covid deaths recently have been vaccinated people. Also, you're wrong about the "will be infected" part. The virus prevents "serious illness" from a Covid infection at a rate of 93%; it doesn't prevent infection at a rate of 93%.

 

[mark46]

0.0008% of people under the age of 18 are in the hospital with Covid in Mississippi. Much less terrifying, so the headlines won't tell it that way.

Yes, one can state the numbers in many ways.

600,000 have died from COVID in the US. Fewer than 1,000 of those 600K were fully vaccinated.

It is a headline when ANYONE vaccinated dies. That is because this event is so rare.

As we see death numbers grow, each of the vaccinated will make their decisions. The media folk will decide how many unnecessary deaths is worthy of a news report.

 

[mark46]

You can't say that when 7% of Mississippi Covid deaths recently have been vaccinated people. Also, you're wrong about the "will be infected" part. The virus prevents "serious illness" from a Covid infection at a rate of 93%; it doesn't prevent infection at a rate of 93%.

I'm not sure of your agenda. Only 7% of those who have have had 2 Pfizer shots get infected. Those are the study results from literally hundreds of studies. Almost no one who is fully vaccinated needs hospitalization. Almost no one dies.

Pfizer, Moderna vaccines 90 percent effective in study of essential workers - The Washington Post

 

[probinson]

For context, does anyone know how many children are in ICUs in Mississippi due to other causes?

 

[Hammster]

If they were under 12 they couldn’t get the vaccine. If only their families were responsible and caring enough to get vaccinated themselves they probably would have stayed well.

Please substantiate this.

 

[d taylor]

For context, does anyone know how many children are in ICUs in Mississippi due to other causes?

I am sure there are a few in hospitals or at the morgue from getting shot.

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Baby boy killed during attempted arrest in Mississippi, police say

 

[Tanj]

For context, does anyone know how many children are in ICUs in Mississippi due to other causes?

What a great question.

This site:
Fast Facts on U.S. Hospitals, 2021 | AHA

Says that in community hospitals (the majority of hospitals) there are a total of 5000 pediatric and 7000 neonate ICU beds in the USA If we add that up (12000), assume it's on a per capita basis (Mississippi ~ 3M, USA ~ 300M, so Mississippi ~ 1%) it suggests a total of 120 child ICUs in the State. It doesn't tell us the occupancy rate, and I'm afraid the amount of time I intend devoting to this admittedly interesting question just ran ou

 

[Fantine]

Please substantiate this.

I just went with the 98%+ odds.

I think it is important to remind the unvaccinated at every turn that these infections are not random.

It us instructive to remember that one can get a vaccine in less time than it takes to make a convoluted rationalization as to why it's better to do nothing.

 

[mark46]

I just went with the 98%+ odds.

I think it is important to remind the unvaccinated at every turn that these infections are not random.

It us instructive to remember that one can get a vaccine in less time than it takes to make a convoluted rationalization as to why it's better to do nothing.

It makes sense that if parents are vaccinated, and they are relatively aware, that the child is less likely get infected badly enough to go to the hospital. In the case of these parents, the children are likely to paying in the homes of folks who are vaccinated.