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How can that be done without being condescending and without the former centuries fights between Catholic and Protestant restarting? And all prophecy to cessationists is reason to attack Pentecostals and charismatics. Even some calling themselves Pentecostals, don't believe in prophecy, they always try to prove it wrong, point out errors instead of successes, some are jealous, and they aim to defame other people. Sometimes they find real faults, sometimes inventing them. There were Jesus' disciples, chosen from among sinners. Presently, the Pharisaical spirit is strong and many young preachers and older ones, cannot move well, not because the can't afford it, but because of attacks on their names.I believe there is a responsibility for all believers, when we see or hear someone claiming to speak for our God, we all hold the corporate responsibility to weigh what is being said, to hold to account the speaker and if necessary to warn others about wolves. Are we our brother's keeper? Yes we are our brother's keeper. Wolves should be marked and avoided. God Bless
Condescension is a common trait among humans. Bishops should be chosen to have less of it, but then they can acquire more of their own through a sense of self-importance. I think we are stuck with condescension sadly.
And I do believe in the manifestations of God's spiritual gifts per forum rules. I just wonder what to do about when people who have said "Thus says the Lord" and it turns out they got it very wrong. I'm thinking maybe you would not say everything is just wonderful about that?
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Hi Lismore, Jesus taught us not to judge others, for by the same standard we judge others, He will judge us. The leaders judge prophecy, the person on the pulpit, the elder. In this case the erring, not false prophets were questioned at length openly. No one was hurt or robbed. It was not unclean. More I think wishful thinking that a pro-life president would come to power. Then, unborn babies survive to birth and are raised, instead of aborted.Hello Golden!
Then the LORD said to me, "The prophets are prophesying lies in my name. I have not sent them or appointed them or spoken to them. They are prophesying to you false visions, divinations, idolatries and the delusions of their own minds" (Jeremiah 14:14).
I believe you have the answer to many of your questions in the above scripture. Why do we need to confront false prophecy? - because it's lies being spoken in God's name- blasphemy. How can we combat lies? - with righteousness and truth.
The 'Pharisaical Spirit' and Cessationism are growing as a reactionary process because those who prophecy lies in God's name are being given free and unhindered reign to abuse God's sheep.
For example speakers who claim special revelation but share a false gospel, preaching a false Jesus and operating in a false spirit (2 Corinthians 11:4) should be treated as we treat Mormons and Muslims. They should not be encouraged, supported or given the benefit of the doubt. If they persist they should be marked and avoided and so should those who support them. Truth and lies cannot co-exist. Truth is something we should regard as very precious.
There is no solution in ignoring the false prophets in the body because we already know that they are evil men and impostors who will grow worse and worse if they are not tackled (2 Timothy 3:13).
God Bless
Having been involved with the corrector, Dr Clark, over the years, I have come to trust him, even if he made a mistake. He is the leader. I posted his questioning the erring prophets video. I find the idea that they always get it wrong and yet rise to prominence hard to believe. I was not there in the US myself though.Hello Golden. I think you're taking that scripture well out of it's context, it's nothing to do with not watching out for false prophets, The Lord commanded us in Matthew 7:15 'Watch out for false prophets'. We don't need to judge them, false prophets are obvious. What is not obvious is why the church today is giving a green light to wolves.
Many have been hurt and robbed by false prophecy. The reputation of the gospel in the eyes of the world has been hurt by false prophecy. Youtube is filled with videos people outside the church made poking fun at the false prophets. There are people posting videos and messages about how they left the church because of false prophets. I have family members and acquaintances who were picked out in a meeting and given a false prophecy, many were knocked off the road by false prophets- they're allowed a free reign. How many lies can be allowed to come from the church before some people start to believe it's all lies? The truth matters a lot.
Many of them gave several high profile false prophecies in 2020. Some of them have been giving false prophecies and false teachings for decades. And still there are folks in the church who would prefer just to keep the waters muddy.
God Bless
How do you assess the cross section of people who heard the prophecy with interest and no mocking?
I agree with you. The reputation of Christianity has been severely damaged by Christians. The world regard Roman Catholic pastors as pedophiles, Mainline Protestant pastors as agnostics, and Evangelical Protestants as Qanon conspirators. Of course, these characterizations are untrue but this is how those outside see us.
