"White Rage"

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I didn't deny that systemic racism occurs elsewhere. I said that systemic racism in the west is the preserve of white people. Systemic racism is racism that is exercised through the state. This is not possible for ethnic minorities
And yet, it is exactly that kind of society that has been the most often attacked as systemically racist. For example, the white government of South Africa before that country changed and, of course, some of the antebellum Southern states of the USA. And we could also add most of the European colonies in the third world prior to the World Wars.
 
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Really - did you read what you wrote?

Name a country that has no "systematic racism" anywhere in the world.
The word is "systemic" not "systematic". The words are related but not interchangeable.
 
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I would agree, I just wish other people (Ms. Anderson) wouldn't tell me what I think or how I am.

...I guess it's a pet peeve of mine.
Okay, then can you explain "white rage" in your own words?
 
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We are all just playing into the devil's hands, aren't we? Us against them. That's not what Jesus sees when He looks at His body here on earth. By this we shall be known as His disciples: that we have love for one another.

But I'm sure it's much better to keep reinforcing the divide. It's all the other side's fault.

The devil has been tricking us into sinning since the garden of Eden. We as Christians should be the examples of having learnt not to play into his hands and helping him to fuel the fire.
You are correct. However,people have trouble recognizing the enemy they cannot see. So they fight what they can see which is usually skin and culture. Unfortunately, too many Christians do not even know or discern the real enemy.
 
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Or... "white rage" could simply be the natural human response to an all-out, concerted attack against white people from all sides (mostly black and unanimously left wing) - for supposed "crimes" they didn't commit, don't condone, and dare not deny.
^^^ This. Only I would add 100% UNJUST to the description.
 
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And yet, it is exactly that kind of society that has been the most often attacked as systemically racist. For example, the white government of South Africa before that country changed and, of course, the antebellum Southern states of the USA. And we could also add most of the European colonies in the third world prior to the World Wars.
I don't understand. Are you saying it's racist to identify racist people as actually being racist?
 
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I don't understand. Are you saying it's racist to identify racist people as actually being racist?
Yes, that's been the party line since Obama first ran for president.
 
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I don't understand. Are you saying it's racist to identify racist people as actually being racist?
What I said is that it's factually wrong to insist that only when a minority is dominated by a majority can there be systemic racism. That reply was given in response to this statement:
Systemic racism is racism that is exercised through the state. This is not possible for ethnic minorities
 
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You are correct. However,people have trouble recognizing the enemy they cannot see. So they fight what they can see which is usually skin and culture. Unfortunately, too many Christians do not even know or discern the real enemy.
Sorry, but as Christians who should be led of the Holy Spirit we really don't have that excuse to stand on. Where is our testimony? The truth is that some have itching ears, just hearing what they want to hear, because that way they will never have any responsibility or have to change anything outside of their comfort zone.
 
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What I said is that it's factually wrong to insist that only when a minority is dominated by a majority can there be systemic racism. That reply was given in response to this statement:
Well, if there were any likely conditions to be met, wouldn't those be ideal? In what other ways can it be established and thrive? If we do see signs of it, should we do nothing? Should we attack those who stand against it? Whatever their skin colour happens to be? Or should we turn a blind eye and not insist on justice?

Even if the subject was anything other than race: if someone has been done wrong, should we not want to help? If a whole group of people have been done wrong, should we not want to help? Whether they look like us or not?

I don't see why we are taking sides, when there should only be one side. Jesus.
 
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Sorry, but as Christians who should be led of the Holy Spirit we really don't have that excuse to stand on. Where is our testimony? The truth is that some have itching ears, just hearing what they want to hear, because that way they will never have any responsibility or have to change anything outside of their comfort zone.

I think she was alluding to passages like Ephesians 6:10-12.

10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.
11 Put on the whole armor of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
 
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Well, if there were any likely conditions to be met, wouldn't those be ideal? In what other ways can it be established and thrive? If we do see signs of it, should we do nothing? Should we attack those who stand against it? Whatever their skin colour happens to be? Or should we turn a blind eye and not insist on justice?
To repeat. I pointed out the error in claiming that only a majority group can dominate a minority group in the way indicated, and I did so by referring readers to what are two of the most famous examples in recent time of systemic racism...and both were cases in which the minority dominated the racial minority. That's it.
 
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I think she was alluding to passages like Ephesians 6:10-12.

10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.
11 Put on the whole armor of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

Are not doing this as Christians? If not, why not? All this serves to do is emphasise my point about being led by the Holy Spirit. He leads us in to all truth, especially concerning His Word which is Life. We all know we have a spiritual enemy, whom we cannot always see. It is one of the things we have to recognise when we come to accepting Christ in the first place: we were in sin, held in bondage by the devil. Christ ransomed and rescued us. So that we could keep living in blindness or so that we could overcome?

Like I said, some people just want to be the way they want to be, regardless of the truth.
 
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If anyone has a real understanding of what "white rage" is or why it exists, be sure to send a text to the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Milley...he said he wants to know.
 
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Is this what causes your rage? (I am just curious.)

Rage? Hardley. Pointing out the obvious is all I am doing - no rage - no emotion whasoever.

I don't think it is right or just to scapegoat a race - not even the whites.

Well, gee. I thought this would be a thread about white people for a change.

But it turns out it's about black people--yet again--after all.

I'm not white.

Sorry if pointing out the other side of the issue bothers you so much.
 
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According to Anderson, white rage is legitimatized through the policies that make up the American political framework. It lives in voter ID laws and manifests in the Black votes that are never cast. It lives in criminal sentencing laws and plays out in a war on drugs that was waged against Black people. It is the rage that fueled the insurrectionists who stormed the Capitol on January 6 in an attempt to dismantle America’s multicultural democracy — and it hasn’t gone away.

“White rage is the operational function of white supremacy. It is the fear of a multicultural democracy. It is predicated on a sense that only whites are legitimate Americans,” Anderson told me. -Vox.com

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I only recently heard this expression and it was on the news. I don't remember in what context it was used but I looked it up and it's the title of this book.

Has anyone read this book? What are people hearing about this term and what it means? I just got hip to this term so I haven't formed an opinion yet. I'm sure others have.

Im curious, where were all the racial threads before George Floyd? How many people here heard of BLM before the George Floyd tragedy? From what I saw in my everyday life racism was dead until the George Floyd incident. It seems like after that tragic event people are going crazy about it.
 
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To repeat. I pointed out the error in claiming that only a majority group can dominate a minority group in the way indicated, and I did so by referring readers to what are two of the most famous examples in recent time of systemic racism...and both were cases in which the minority dominated the racial minority. That's it.

Thank you for reiterating. Actually, those are really perfect examples of racism. You are absolutely right. It doesn't take a majority. But it does take an upper hand, that's for sure. People don't just willingly offer themselves to be trampled upon. Some would rather fight, or even die.

I guess the point I was trying to make was that in this case, the upper hand does belong to a majority, and yet that is not the problem. The problem is that there is an injustice that exists and is being perpetrated and denied, all at the same time, and here we are, mostly arguing semantics instead of trying to get at the truth as Jesus would have us do.

That was all I was saying.
 
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Im curious, where were all the racial threads before George Floyd? How many people here heard of BLM before the George Floyd tragedy? From what I saw in my everyday life racism was dead until the George Floyd incident. It seems like after that tragic event people are going crazy about it.
You only heard it then.
 
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