Francis Drake
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So because Todd Bentley got it wrong, everyone else is wrong?If you remember a while back, a very similar thing tried to happen with old Todd Bentley, and that got shot down big time. In fact, it caused a major rift here on this site between those that wanted such a circus to happen, and the more biblically based group that started arguing against it. A lot of folks left this site because they were told they were wrong and got offended.
It seems your focus or experience of the gifts is always in your church setting, so maybe that's why you get uptight if its not under tight control. And putting a straight jacket on the Holy Spirit cannot be described as emulating Jesus.Again, it has to emulate how Jesus did things. If we are going to go by the biblical example, then there is no one greater to follow.
Maybe you should broaden your vision a little.
In the 80s, knowing absolutely nothing about businesses, I had an apostolic call into industry. I was in uncharted waters and constantly condemned by local churches, even ones I financially supported. Other than the Lord, there was nowhere and no one to go to for advice.
Over time I got thrown out or made persona non grata from five local churches. They told their members coming to me for jobs that I wasn't to be trusted.
I ran several businesses concurrently, all based on prophetic vision.
We employed local Christians and used the coffee and lunch breaks to encourage the saints in learning to hear the Lord speak to them. They saw how the Lord directed our path, but we were also learning daily. Sadly, I learned it was far easier to teach non Christians than Christians how to hear God speak!
The business became a powerhouse of the Holy Spirit. A visitor even saw an angel over the buildings!
There was no protocol to follow or learn from.
If we made mistakes, they cost us dearly.
At the very beginning, a major business CEO confronted me with the declaration that unless I abandoned my plans, he was going to bankrupt me. We were penniless, and he had multiple millions £ behind his threat.
That threat gave us a tough night till I declared before God that we trusted him alone and refused to be frightened by the giants.
The phone rang at 7 the following morning. A complete stranger phoned to say "Don't let the giants eat you up!"
He then hung up!
Living a prophetic lifestyle attracts the strangest things!
A few years later the same man sued me over a spurious patent litigation, the case going on for many years as he tried to bankrupt me. He lost, but it was an exhausting spiritual war.
That was just one spiritual battle among many as the Lord trained me.
I designed new products on prophetic vision. I employed new staff on rhema words. I bought new equipment on hearing God's audible voice.
I bought property on prophetic words.
It was an extraordinary roller coaster journey hand in hand with God, and I saw and learned far more that I ever did in church.
And that's why I see the argument about demarcation between the gifts as thoroughly infantile.
From the first time I heard God speak to me in maybe 1963, I've never had the slightest interest in such silly debates.
Over the years, God has used all possible means to get my intention including a billboard advertising Guinness. Perhaps you could categorise that one for me?
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