God Is a Physical Being

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What I am saying is that while humans are fallible, His witness to them is absolute or He could not be a just judge.
What makes God a just judge is His commitment to evaluating us on one rule alone - the "rule of conscience":

“If I feel certain that action-A is evil, and action-B is good, I should go with action-B.”

There are no possible exceptions to this rule. I've debated this fact at length on threads such as these:
How Direct Revelation Trumps Sola Scriptura | Christian Forums
Is Sola Scriptura Guilty of Logical Inconsistency? | Christian Forums
 
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Deflection. When I said that men are fallible, you CLEARLY objected/debated, replying that you'll believe Scripture over me. Those were YOUR words. Personally, I don't know any Christians who are infallible. I stand by what I said.

Fine - please quote me saying men are infallible...

If you can...

What I was saying is that Romans 1 makes it perfectly clear that mans fallibility does not hinder the absolute witness of God.
 
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Fine - please quote me saying men are infallible...
Deflection. I claimed that men are faillible, and you argued with me. That's proof enough.

You accused me of being argumentative - I'm just showing that you are argumentative enough even to paint yourself into a corner.

What I was saying is that Romans 1 makes it perfectly clear that mans fallibility does not hinder the absolute witness of God.
I don't even know what that statement means to you. For one thing, "the absolute witness of God" doesn't render men infallible, so I don't get your point. Is this more gibberish?
 
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Hebrews 7:3
Without father, without mother, without genealogy, having neither beginning of days nor end of life, but made like the Son of God, he remains a priest perpetually.

I will let the readers decide if this verse indicates a timeless eternity...

An eternity preceding and independent of the created order.

A priesthood not bound by time.
 
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I will let the readers decide if this verse indicates a timeless eternity...

An eternity preceding and independent of the created order.

A priesthood not bound by time.
Which readers? Those already indoctrinated by 2,000 years of Platonism, right?
 
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Deflection. I claimed that men are faillible, and you argued with me. That's proof enough.

You accused me of being argumentative - I'm just showing that you are argumentative enough even to paint yourself into a corner.


I don't even know what that statement means to you. For one thing, "the absolute witness of God" doesn't render men infallible, so I don't get your point. Is this more gibberish?

I have tried to explain three times - and you keep diverting.

Let the reader decide...

My last statement, that I have consistently expressed, is that while on the one hand men are fallible that does not excuse them from God's judgement, because God brings conviction despite our fallibility.

I quote Romans 1 one more time...

18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of people who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 19 because that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, that is, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, being understood by what has been made, so that they are without excuse. 21 For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their reasonings, and their senseless hearts were darkened. 22 Claiming to be wise, they became fools, 23 and they exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible mankind, of birds, four-footed animals, and crawling creatures.

Let the scripture speak for itself...

The arguments of man are like chaff.

Have a great day.
 
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I have tried to explain three times - and you keep diverting.

Let the reader decide...

My last statement, that I have consistently expressed, is that while on the one hand men are fallible that does not excuse them from God's judgement, because God brings conviction despite our fallibility.
And where did I say that men are excused from judgment? Of that's right, I never said that. All I said is that men are fallible, and then you picked a fight with me! Which is a clear example of how argumentative you can be.
 
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Where did I say that you said that - that is a straw man...
Ok if I didn't say it, why did you bring it up? Bringing up a proposition, and then knocking it down, even though your opponent in the debate never mentioned it, is precisely the DEFINTION of a strawman.
 
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If presenting scripture is 'picking a fight' then you have an issue with scripture...
(Sigh). Picking a fight with me is needlessly arguing with me over an issue of consensus - my claim that men are fallible.
 
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