ID is officially dead.

[NBB]

There are both Christian and atheist evolutionists, just as there are Christians and atheists in all professional fields. There is no atheist requirement for affirming natural processes.

Any theory of creation that say God was not needed is a lie. Someday some people here may wake up to the real reality about the universe i hope.

 

[NBB]

If you believe in an omni deity then you shouldn't limit that deity in ability to create natural processes to consciousness and intelligence.

But if God made it that way, people like Stephen Hawking and every evolutionist shouldn't say he is not needed for evolution, something should be misaligned with that statement and God making things.

Scientists can't understand our minds, and evo without any ability at all, created us? think.

 

[VirOptimus]

But if God made it that way, people like Stephen Hawking and every evolutionist shouldn't say he is not needed for evolution, something should be misaligned with that statement and God making things.

Scientists can't understand our minds, and evo without any ability at all, created us? think.

Do you also believe in intelligent falling?

 

[Frank Robert]

So who here would be for replacing our focus from ToE, to the Six Grand Theories of Psychology?

...The SGToP.

...Should be mandatory for everyone!

<sarcasm>

I found that the most useful one is Maslow's hierarchy of needs.

 

[NBB]

Do you also believe in intelligent falling?

No i don't think so. Gravity made by God can be physical perfectly like science says.

Also that is from the Onion... well i guess some people think they are so smart eh.

But satire or not, God may hold up the universe together after all, since he created it.

 

[VirOptimus]

No i don't think so. Gravity made by God can be physical perfectly like science says.

And evolution is different because...?

 

[Frank Robert]

But if God made it that way, people like Stephen Hawking and every evolutionist shouldn't say he is not needed for evolution, something should be misaligned with that statement and God making things.

Scientists can't understand our minds, and evo without any ability at all, created us? think.

Whether God is needed is belief or lack of belief. I view belief and affirmation on a continuum.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

Just out of curiosity, if someone is not pursuing a career in biology, why should they be willing to learn evolution?

They shouldn't have to learn evolution if it's not that important to them. But if they want to argue against evolution they should be expected to learn what they're trying to dismantle.

 

[NBB]

And evolution is different because...?

That is from the Onion... well i guess some people think they are so smart eh.
But satire or not, God may hold up the universe together after all, since he created it.

Because evolutionist say God is not needed at all with evolution, also, i firmly don't believe evo is capable of making conciousness and intelligence all working perfectly together with a body...

 

[VirOptimus]

That is from the Onion... well i guess some people think they are so smart eh.
But satire or not, God may hold up the universe together after all, since he created it.

Because evolutionist say God is not needed at all with evolution, also, i firmly don't believe evo is capable of making conciousness and intelligence all working perfectly together with a body...

Evolution=observed phenomena, ie a fact. The theory of evolution=explains how evolution works.

Science does not ever include god(s)/magic/miracles as that is not an observable part of physical reality.

You should try to learn the basics.

Your beliefs can never be a part of science.

 

[NBB]

Evolution=observed phenomena, ie a fact. The theory of evolution=explains how evolution works.

Science does not ever include god(s)/magic/miracles as that is not an observable part of physical reality.

You should try to learn the basics.

Your beliefs can never be a part of science.

God created science itself.

 

[AV1611VET]

Because... ?

Because it might be something that's just going around.

 

[The IbanezerScrooge]

Chriss Angel makes 941.78 an hour.

Yeah, but he's at least entertaining and tricks people with their consent.

 

[VirOptimus]

God created science itself.

No, science is a process for understanding physical reality. We know how the scientific process came to be, no god(s) involved, just humans.

 

[VirOptimus]

Because it might be something that's just going around.

Your posts make no sense.

 

[NBB]

No, science is a process for understanding physical reality. We know how the scientific process came to be, no god(s) involved, just humans.

If God created the universe and our own minds, he created everything else humans do indirectly.

 

[VirOptimus]

If God created the universe and our own minds, he created everything else.

You (including your "mind") where "created" by your mom and dad. Dont you know how children are made?

 

[AV1611VET]

They shouldn't have to learn evolution if it's not that important to them. But if they want to argue against evolution they should be expected to learn what they're trying to dismantle.

* cough *

 

[AV1611VET]

Science does not ever include god(s)/magic/miracles as that is not an observable part of physical reality.

And she ends up throwing the Baby out with the bathwater.

 

[VirOptimus]

And she ends up throwing the Baby out with the bathwater.

No, that not how it works.

Science only deals with physical reality.