What do you believe about January 6th?

[Oneiric1975]

That is a rather ridiculous request. People are very unlikely to admit they support criminal acts publicly if BLM outright said they support violence they could lose a lot of their hoodwinked followers that don't think they are criminals but rather some sort of "advanced" protesters.

...sure, it's easier just to make stuff up about the org and the movement.

It is a Christian approach. If you are going to "yoke" or associate yourself with someone you need to be sure that their beliefs are the same as yours and to find that out for sure you have to research what they truly believe.

Is that why Jesus said: " But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you, but ONLY after you've run a thorough background check on them and decided they are worthy of your Christian love!"

 

[Oneiric1975]

BLM the "sentiment" is noble but like anything the left has poisoned it

So the VERY FIRST TIME you heard the phrase "Black Lives Matter"...was your initial response "...b-b-but ALL lives matter"?

They are all treated as if they are doing great things and noble and peaceful while those at the top rake in over a billion dollars

What???

and give back nearly nothing to help the black community.

I'd be VERY interested to see where your information is coming from.

Those who are devastated by their protests (riots) are ignored and even marginalized by them.

LOL. You DO realize the riots are not coordinate by ANYONE, right? BLM doesn't sit there and say "Let's all meet at 12:00PM on the corner of Main and Main Cross and we'll start throwing rocks and burning buildings!"

You DO realize that right?

BLM would be better suited to stop all their protests and start rebuilding black neighborhoods

Oh please spare us this "rebuild black neighborhoods" stuff from the Right. We all know that's just so the complaints will stop and the RIght won't have to hear it anymore. Meanwhile the Right fights TOOTH AND NAIL against anything that might help the poor or minority neighborhoods.

 

[wing2000]

Opinion: Kevin McCarthy plumbs new depths of political cowardice
......
If there are to be hearings, Mr. McCarthy argued, they should examine not only the Capitol invasion but other politically motivated violence, such as the riots surrounding the Black Lives Matter protests last summer. The point is to draw a false equivalence between a historically unique attack on the nation’s seat of government, in which Mr. Trump and other Republicans are directly implicated, and crimes that left-leaning activists committed — crimes that did not occur in the halls of Congress, that did not aim to interrupt the peaceful transition of power, that did not reflect a plot to overturn a presidential election.

The more Mr. McCarthy and other Republicans try to minimize the insurrection’s significance, the more they encourage the lies on which it was based; the more they instill the sense, widespread on the right, that the other side is at war with them, so they must fight back; and the more they invite the riot’s repetition — perhaps not in the now-locked-down Capitol, but maybe at statehouses, county commission offices, vote-counting locations or other civic institutions.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...d15cf4-b812-11eb-96b9-e949d5397de9_story.html

To wit: The Maricopa County Board of Supervisors, who have taken a firm stand against the Big Lie, have police protection at their homes. The Arizona Secretary of State has been threatened in the past, as has her Republican counterpart in Georgia.

 

[Sophrosyne]

...sure, it's easier just to make stuff up about the org and the movement.

I agree. BLM made a lot of things up and duped millions of people. It is truly sad that so many people who would have made for a fantastic turnaround of black society. I don't have to make anything up just follow the money like the left want to follow Trumps money BLM spends a fortune and what does the black community get? scraps.

Is that why Jesus said: " But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you, but ONLY after you've run a thorough background check on them and decided they are worthy of your Christian love!"

Jesus also cast out devils instead of "loving them"..... he treated the pharisees with contempt calling them whitewashed tombs, he turned over tables in the Temple whipped people, and he said that people who hurt children should be drowned with a rock tied around them. He said a lot of things about evil people and it is sad that people ignore that and claim that Jesus is all about love and has no interest in justice and fighting evil. Even non believers check the background of people their children get involved with. They don't trust them with telling the truth they make sure before their daughter goes on a date with an unknown guy but hey..... we should just trust that this guy isn't going to take her to a desolate spot and rape and kill her if she doesn't agree to having sex. We should let people who spew hatred against another with their buddies who show up at the house and are all polite and nice hang out with our kids and teach them the same hatred..... we have to do that because Jesus said so.
...... yeah......... NOT!

 

[Oneiric1975]

double check your "/quote" tags.

 

[Sophrosyne]

So the VERY FIRST TIME you heard the phrase "Black Lives Matter"...was your initial response "...b-b-but ALL lives matter"?

I was curious. I knew little about them. I did check right wing news and found out that they were not as you think they should be but I didn't really think much of it till the protests started. When they came here I went from this could be a good cause to sitting on the fence as there was some criminal acts involved. It was when I saw on the news live coverage of all sorts of mayhem and reports of things and the talk of defunding the police and more and more it all added up to something I would call a "protection racket". Businesses and organizations some out fear some for fame and profit started associating with them and right then I figured it was also political and I saw those on the left more and more embracing them the more and more things got worse with BLM involved. It is rather easy to connect the dots and as time goes on instead of BLM looking less "evil" it looked more and more corrupt and political. What really is sad is I believe the evil people at the top of this empire have literally wasted millions of useful opportunities to greatly improve black communities with all the energy on protesting could have been turned into improving and training and counseling. I don't see much positive coming out of BLM instead of bringing us together as a nation to help blacks they have turned black on black on white on police and have polarized parties for and against it. A lot of conservatives would love to support an organization that their core purpose is to improve black communities but almost none want anything to do with the fiasco called BLM.

What???



I'd be VERY interested to see where your information is coming from.



LOL. You DO realize the riots are not coordinate by ANYONE, right? BLM doesn't sit there and say "Let's all meet at 12:00PM on the corner of Main and Main Cross and we'll start throwing rocks and burning buildings!"

You DO realize that right?



Oh please spare us this "rebuild black neighborhoods" stuff from the Right. We all know that's just so the complaints will stop and the RIght won't have to hear it anymore. Meanwhile the Right fights TOOTH AND NAIL against anything that might help the poor or minority neighborhoods.

When an organization wants to promote lawlessness they are encouraging people to riot and do criminal acts plain and simple. When BLM started talking about defunding police that was the end of my giving them the benefit of the doubt and when governments bowed to their wishes and started deallocating funds to police the violence escalated. Now you want to say BLM doesn't promote violence..... I say the ACT of demanding (and getting in some cases) the apparatus to control violence. The act of politicians who sympathize with BLM for not allowing police to stop violence in BLM protests of which BLM said NOTHING to it which leads me to believe that they were an accomplice to the act of restricting police and the denial of national guard troops when offered to quell BLM protest violence along with BLM saying NOTHING again.
People who are smarter get others to do their dirty work. They don't incriminate themselves and often they can entice others to do what they want. BLM could easily have PAID armed guards to protect the public around their protests and not had to have any police within a mile.... but instead some of that money helped buy the BLM found a few houses form what I've heard...... one in a white neighborhood go figure.

 

[Sophrosyne]

double check your "/quote" tags.

sorry bout that I think I got it fixed.

 

[Michie]

I just read this this morning. There is one curse word in the article.

There's Still No Suspect In The Jan. 6 Pipe Bombs Case

 

[Vylo]

Those many others might, just might amount to 5 people per year, not that those 5 people are not important but it hardly justifies claims of executions in the streets.

Oh, there are a lot more. It is sometimes difficult to keep track. it is to the point where people are afraid to call on the police for help in some areas, because they are likely to get themselves or someone else killed, often over something that doesn't require that level of intervention. Whole departments like Ferguson, that are so corrupt that virtually no one trusts the cops. My own town was so bad growing up, we watched the cops sell drugs to children and one of my coworkers had the cops try to plant drugs on him at 8 years old. it took over a decade before they were finally busted. Nearly half the force was fired at once.

 

[TLK Valentine]

I don't trust the people who have control of Congress and the Senate which is currently the left.

And yet the committee would be bipartisan-- composed of an equal amount from the left and right.

Surely you trust the right to be competent enough to keep the left in check?

Not fixated and not feared but the left is the one who fears Trump and they have shown that they will go all out bending and breaking rules and values once relied upon to get at him. They won't be able to resist doing anything and everything that they think they can get away with to get at Trump. They want to pin a crime on him such that they can use it to ban him from ever holding a political office again they fear him so much.

When did making up horror stories become a substitute for facts?

Not sure if that is a good argument at all as you cannot judge intelligence when it comes to criminal acts

Sounds like you torpedoed your own argument.

Let me know the next time you're going to refute yourself; save me the time.

At least he doesn't have to pay to have them protest like BLM often does.

Remind me again where BLM was on 1/6?

It is a bit over the top but then we have had public figures on the left given the high five by others for their death threats in the past on Trump so wanting his supporters to be executed wouldn't be an astronomical stretch for the left. We have had people in the thread here equate the protest as an insurrection and treason and you do know that the what the penalty for treason can be.......

Those of us who pay more attention to facts than hysterics know that the vast majority of those arrested are being charged with misdemeanors.

Think of Nuremberg: you don't charge foot soldiers with war crimes -- you save that for the generals.

 

[Sophrosyne]

And yet the committee would be bipartisan-- composed of an equal amount from the left and right.

I'm not going to give it much consideration as until they lay down the rules it is nothing but hearsay and wishful thinking.

Surely you trust the right to be competent enough to keep the left in check?

If the right can't even get its own to vote in step to counter the lefts voting mostly in step I don't have a lot of hope of avoiding a very liberal supreme court and giving china billions of dollars for 52 star flags.


The rest I'm not interested in a reply as I'm tiring of this banter it is starting to bore me.

 

[ToddNotTodd]

I'm not going to give it much consideration as until they lay down the rules it is nothing but hearsay and wishful thinking.
If the right can't even get its own to vote in step to counter the lefts voting mostly in step I don't have a lot of hope of avoiding a very liberal supreme court and giving china billions of dollars for 52 star flags.


The rest I'm not interested in a reply as I'm tiring of this banter it is starting to bore me.

I’m sure burying your head in the sand must be very tiring for you...

 

[TLK Valentine]

I'm not going to give it much consideration as until they lay down the rules it is nothing but hearsay and wishful thinking.

Then consider this:

Text - H.R.3233 - 117th Congress (2021-2022): National Commission to Investigate the January 6 Attack on the United States Capitol Complex Act

 

[rjs330]

It's hard to squeeze it in among all the STRONG JUSTIFICATIONS of Jan 6 on here.

Please link to any post that said the attack on the capitol was justified.

 

[rjs330]

No thanks. You cant seem to see what is right in front of you.
Certainly the poll results reflect 18% denial. If you cant see that, then we have nothing to talk about.

ok , here is one from the first page of 21. Post #20
"I think it was a minor incident that is (as usual) blown way out of proportion."

That post did not do what you claim. The posters claim was that the incident is blown out of proportion. He did not excuse it, justify it, condone it or sympathize with it.

This is the lefts problem. They continue to spread disinformation. Someone makes a claim and you twist it to mean something else.

You failed to support your claim. And one posted pointed out the flaw in the poll. They did not take over the capitol. They failed in their attempt. They were repelled and even one of them got [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] for their efforts.

 

[rjs330]

Haven't seen that.



Of course you don't. But I would expect nothing less. Subtlety is often NOT the purview of the hardline partisan.

You haven't been paying attention.
Prosecutors dismiss looting, rioting charges against hundreds of protesters across U.S.

 

[Belk]

That post did not do what you claim. The posters claim was that the incident is blown out of proportion. He did not excuse it, justify it, condone it or sympathize with it.

This is the lefts problem. They continue to spread disinformation. Someone makes a claim and you twist it to mean something else.

You failed to support your claim. And one posted pointed out the flaw in the poll. They did not take over the capitol. They failed in their attempt. They were repelled and even one of them got [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] for their efforts.

The irony is palpable.

 

[rjs330]

So the VERY FIRST TIME you heard the phrase "Black Lives Matter"...was your initial response "...b-b-but ALL lives matter"?



What???



I'd be VERY interested to see where your information is coming from.



LOL. You DO realize the riots are not coordinate by ANYONE, right? BLM doesn't sit there and say "Let's all meet at 12:00PM on the corner of Main and Main Cross and we'll start throwing rocks and burning buildings!"

You DO realize that right?



Oh please spare us this "rebuild black neighborhoods" stuff from the Right. We all know that's just so the complaints will stop and the RIght won't have to hear it anymore. Meanwhile the Right fights TOOTH AND NAIL against anything that might help the poor or minority neighborhoods.

And what exactly has the left done to all those poor minority neighborhoods? Ummm.... Nothing, they are rat infested ghettos full of drugs and crime. For all the rhetoric the poor minority neighborhoods are still poor and full of crime. You know the one person and congress that actually out a dent in that? Donald J Trump.

The republicans fight against programs and policies that have been proven over and over again not to work. To keep doing the same things over and over again with the same lousy results is the definition of insanity. It's not the definition of help. Maybe if every state started instituting the policies of Trump, they might actually start making a difference. Handing out money isn't helping. Why keep trying the same failed policies?

 

[rjs330]

The irony is palpable.

Funny please show where we supported, excused, etc etc etc the attack on the capitol.

There can be no irony because that is what we are being accused of without any evidence of such. So yes that is the lefts problem. Twist what people say into something else. Present a false narrative. Someone says the capital attack wasn't as serious as made out to be and the left turns it into, encouraging, excusing and supporting the attack.

 

[Sophrosyne]

Funny please show where we supported, excused, etc etc etc the attack on the capitol.

There can be no irony because that is what we are being accused of without any evidence of such. So yes that is the lefts problem. Twist what people say into something else. Present a false narrative. Someone says the capital attack wasn't as serious as made out to be and the left turns it into, encouraging, excusing and supporting the attack.

You know if a white man had a baby that needed medicine and was crying and had a high fever and he couldn't get help and he desperately robbed a store and on the way out bumped into a 55 year old black woman the left would report the story as follows:
White supremist terrorizes a black grandmother while robbing a store to get drugs.