Use of Johnson & Johnson COVID Vaccine is Paused

[Jaxxi]

Exactly. You have made very good points including harassment from strangers over something that is optional. I cannot understand why this is so.

In all my years, I have never seen anything like this on a mass scale to get people vaccinated and so quickly. Why is this so?

On such a scale, and with all the amount of material I have been noticing to promote and encourage people to get vaccines, to me it translates into this "submit". Don't ask questions, just simply "submit".

And if one does ask questions, chances are they won't get a accurate answer or possibly some kind of deceptive answer that doesn't really answer the question asked.

Exactly and you are right. It is all about "Obey" and " Comply". I have never seen anything like this before. People calling me selfish and inconsiderate because I care about what I put in my body and I can't seem to get a straight answer about the vaccine. They just kero saying " Dont worry it's safe. You will be fine. Do it for your country." Sorry but that is not good enough. Something is going to come of these vaccines. You watch. Time will tell. From Christian perspective, the devil has his hand in everything these days and nothing can be taken at face value. Sound paranoid? Maybe but Satan doesn't love us on Christmas ok? He is not about to let us have a safe vaccine that has no spiritual downfall. His goal is hell for everyone. He hates the human race with such passion. He does not want us having what he feels is rightfully his .

 

[alertandawake]

People calling me selfish and inconsiderate because I care about what I put in my body and I can't seem to get a straight answer about the vaccine. They just kero saying " Dont worry it's safe. You will be fine. Do it for your country."

Not able to get straight answers concerning vaccine is itself a red flag. You know in many cases when people say "Don't worry it's safe. You will be fine" that is when one has to worry.

 

[Hammster]

One of the many egregious errors of reasoning we see from the anti-vaxxers are stories of breakthrough cases - people who get covid even though fully vaccinated.

Let's see how that same reasoning plays out:

Man dies because of defective parachute.

Well, I guess the next time I jump out a plane, no parachute......

So much for not responding to me.

 

[expos4ever]

From Christian perspective, the devil has his hand in everything these days and nothing can be taken at face value. Sound paranoid? Maybe but Satan doesn't love us on Christmas ok? He is not about to let us have a safe vaccine that has no spiritual downfall. His goal is hell for everyone. He hates the human race with such passion

Ah, yes, the magical thinking - the notion that there is a demon under every doily.

This kind of "reasoning" is no doubt the reason why fundamentalism is subject to such well-merited ridicule.

Tens of thousands of dedicated, highly-trained experts have invested years of careful, disciplined study and practice and used the latest technologies to produce an effective weapon against a pandemic that threatens us all.

And it can all be dismissed by conjuring up dark sinister forces, lurking in the shadows. Who needs medical school? Who needs to engage in responsible debate?

Easy-peasy, lemon-squeezy.

 

[expos4ever]

Something is going to come of these vaccines.....

Indeed, the end of the pandemic.

 

[Hammster]

Indeed, the end of the pandemic.

It’s over. We are in an endemic.

 

[Derek1234]

Is not getting the “vaccine” a risk?

why do you keep putting "vaccine" in quotes? Are you a conspiracy theorist?

 

[Hammster]

why do you keep putting "vaccine" in quotes? Are you a conspiracy theorist?

It doesn’t fit the definition of a vaccine.

 

[Taodeching]

Is not getting the “vaccine” a risk?

So is everything in life.

 

[Hammster]

So is everything in life.

Then your risk argument is moot.

 

[Taodeching]

From the articles I have come across, people have died from covid 19 vaccines.

So far from the investigations no has died because of the vaccine but others things they had prior to the vaccine. Remember this of all the millions that have gotten the vaccine only 84 have died and those from condition that had nothing to do with the shot.

So how are these vaccines safe? I cannot work that out. Something else I cannot work out is why are these vaccines (regardless who makes them) still on the market when there have been serious issues.

Same way the flu shot is safe, same way the tetanus shot is safe, same way the rabies shot are safe. Everything has risk. Why is anything on the market that has side affects? Do you know that asprin has very serious side effects including death. Why is anything on the market, everything can kill you and have serious side effects

See this is something that I cannot work out, something that is being promoted safe and effective but at the same time we hear reports of clots and deaths (not being brand specific here just referring to covid 19 vaccines in general)

The clots that happened in J&J shots and AstraZeneca shots gave blond clots to very few people, it is the news that scares people. I would not get the J&J shots because of possible aborted babies in use unlike PFizer which used lines from the 60's. My Pastor and Church has advised against the J&J shots.

As I said before, to each their own. I people want to have the vaccine they have free will, they can choose to have it.

Yes but if enough refuse the shots because of silly news who love to scare people with no facts then it won't do no good for those of us who have gotten the shots

 

[Taodeching]

Then your risk argument is moot.

Only if you live in a fairy tale

 

[Taodeching]

Not able to get straight answers concerning vaccine is itself a red flag. You know in many cases when people say "Don't worry it's safe. You will be fine" that is when one has to worry.

Sure you can just stop going to the news, videos, and sites with no credentials and go directly to source. I went to PFizer and directly studied the things myself away from anti vaxxers

 

[alertandawake]

What I don't get is why people who are already vaccinated or for vaccines are against those who are not vaccinated or don't want to get vaccinated? Why is this so?

 

[Hammster]

Only if you live in a fairy tale

According to your arguments, there’s risk in taking the vaccine, and risks in not taking it, correct?

 

[expos4ever]

What I don't get is why people who are already vaccinated or for vaccines are against those who are not vaccinated or don't want to get vaccinated? Why is this so?

I am quite sure this has already been explained and the reasons are very easy to understand:

1. The vaccine is not 100% effective - so those who elect to gamble with their health by refusing the vaccine are also gambling with mine.

2. When people like you end up in the hospital because you did not take the vaccine, you take a hospital bed away from someone who needs it.

 

[Hammster]

I am quite sure this has already been explained and the reasons are very easy to understand:

1. The vaccine is not 100% effective - so those who elect to gamble with their health by refusing the vaccine are also gambling with mine.

2. When people like you end up in the hospital because you did not take the vaccine, you take a hospital bed away from someone who needs it.

You can stay home as mask up and then not worry.

 

[alertandawake]

I am quite sure this has already been explained and the reasons are very easy to understand:

1. The vaccine is not 100% effective - so those who elect to gamble with their health by refusing the vaccine are also gambling with mine.

But yet it is perfectly justifiable and acceptable that a person gambles their health and life by taking a vaccine that can either seriously make them ill or even kill them?

2. When people like you end up in the hospital because you did not take the vaccine, you take a hospital bed away from someone who needs it.

And yet people who get vaccinated don't end up in hospital? Tell that to the people who got their vaccine shots and still ended up in hospital.

 

[VladTheEmailer]

What I don't get is why people who are already vaccinated or for vaccines are against those who are not vaccinated or don't want to get vaccinated? Why is this so?

They're not, they just want people to stop pushing Conspiracy Theories and encouraging others not to get the vaccine.

 

[expos4ever]

But yet it is perfectly justifiable and acceptable that a person gambles their health and life by taking a vaccine that can either seriously make them ill or even kill them?

Dishonest - you know full well that the vaccine is not 100% effective and that this fact undermines your implication that it is your personal business whether you get vaccinated or not.

You are trying to dance away from this.

And yet people who get vaccinated don't end up in hospital? Tell that to the people who got their vaccine shots and still ended up in hospital.

More dishonesty - you cannot possibly not know that the risk of ending up in the hospital from the vaccine is much, much lower than the risk of being hospitalized from covid.