Is the Seventh Day Adventist Church orthodox

[LoveGodsWord]

I don't know what that means.

They are not new commandments. They are from the law.

Micro-quoting. Are these new covenant scripture you left out from my post you are quoting from new covenant application for believers under the new covenant - Matthew 22:36-40; Luke 10:25-28?

 

[tall73]

We were discussing food laws. Your changing the subject matter again.

I am not changing the subject matter at all. I am trying to figure out how you define moral commands. So is uncleanness after childbirth a moral law?

Or how about this?

Leviticus 19:19 ‘You shall keep My statutes. You shall not let your livestock breed with another kind. You shall not sow your field with mixed seed. Nor shall a garment of mixed linen and wool come upon you.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

I am not changing the subject matter at all. I am trying to figure out how you define moral commands.

Well I respectfully disagree. I had already posted from the scriptures some time ago all God's commandments are righteousness from Psalms 119:172 and righteousness means moral right doing depending on covenant application. Perhaps you missed it (post # 904).

 

[bbbbbbb]

Thanks for the clarification.

You are welcome. I also greatly appreciate your posts on this thread.

 

[tall73]

Well I respectfully disagree. I had already posted from the scriptures some time ago all God's commandments are righteousness from Psalms 119:172 and righteousness means moral right doing depending on covenant application. Perhaps you missed it (post # 904).

Disagree with what? How is uncleannes in food immoral, but not in childbirth?

 

[LoveGodsWord]

Disagree with what? How is uncleannes in food immoral, but not in childbirth?

No, I disagree why you think you do not know what I am saying in regards to what a moral law is when I have already posted on it in the post you are quoting from and some time ago back in the discussion elsewhere.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

Disagree with what? How is uncleannes in food immoral, but not in childbirth?

Let's cut to the chase. Are God's 10 commandments moral laws of our duty of love to God and our fellow man?

 

[tall73]

No, I disagree why you think you do not know what I am saying in regards to what a moral law is when I have already posted on it in the post you are quoting from and some time ago back in the discussion elsewhere.

Perhaps because I am not understanding your post.

 

[tall73]

Well I respectfully disagree. I had already posted from the scriptures some time ago all God's commandments are righteousness from Psalms 119:172 and righteousness means moral right doing depending on covenant application. Perhaps you missed it (post # 904).

If all commands are moral, then we need to have the uncleanness for having a child? It is a command.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

Perhaps because I am not understanding your post.

Really? What is it your finding hard to understand when I post from the scriptures that all God's commandments are defined as righteousness from Psalms 119:172 and righteousness means moral right doing depending on covenant application. Perhaps you missed it (post # 904).

 

[LoveGodsWord]

If all commands are moral, then we need to have the uncleanness for having a child? It is a command.

Depending on covenant application. This is already been posted some time ago if my earlier posts back in post # 834 and 835 if you want to go have a look.

 

[tall73]

Really? What is it your finding hard to understand when I post from the scriptures that all God's commandments are defined as righteousness from Psalms 119:172

That part makes sense.

and righteousness means moral right doing

.....ok...

depending on covenant application.

This is the part that doesn't make sense.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

(covenant application added in by me) This is the part that doesn't make sense.

Well I posted on this already in post # 872 linked.

 

[tall73]

Well I posted on this already in post # 834

I didn't see anything about child birth there. Do you want to narrow it down? Didn't seem to be anything to discern between different unclean things.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

Do you want to narrow it down? Didn't seem to be anything to discern between different unclean things.

Apologies wrong post # in regards to "depending on the covenants" in the previous post. I updated the post number and linked it for you or anyone else so it is easy to get to. That was what you said you were confused on right?

 

[tall73]

Now what we need to consider here is that under the old covenant all of God's laws and commandments are moral right doing but in the new covenant we know many laws are fulfilled and continued in the body of Christ (Colossians 2:17) based on better promises *Hebrews 8:1-6. So for example under the new covenant today is it moral right doing or moral wrong doing for us when we sin to go out and seek a Levitical Priest and offer animal sacrifices? Of course not because to do so would be to deny the very Christ to who these "shadow laws" pointed to and are fulfilled and continued in.

How did Jesus fulfill the uncleanness of child birth, but not from unclean foods?

How does Jesus fulfill this?

Leviticus 19:19 ‘You shall keep My statutes. You shall not let your livestock breed with another kind. You shall not sow your field with mixed seed. Nor shall a garment of mixed linen and wool come upon you.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

How did Jesus fulfill the uncleanness of child birth, but not from unclean foods?

How does Jesus fulfill this?

Leviticus 19:19 ‘You shall keep My statutes. You shall not let your livestock breed with another kind. You shall not sow your field with mixed seed. Nor shall a garment of mixed linen and wool come upon you.

Sorry your questions makes no sense. Jesus was not a woman giving childbirth. Jesus was a carpenter and I am sure he did not mix wool and linen garments and ate clean foods.

 

[tall73]

Sorry your questions makes no sense. Jesus not a woman. Jesus was a carpenter and I am sure he did not mix wool and linen garments.

Oh, so then we do have to keep those laws?

 

[LoveGodsWord]

Oh, so then we do have to keep those laws?

Pretty hard to keep those laws if your not a woman in childbirth or you do not handle livestock don't you think? Why not talk about laws that are a requirement for all of God's people?

 

[tall73]

Pretty hard to keep those laws if your not a woman in childbirth or you do not handle livestock don't you think? Why not talk about laws that are a requirement for all of God's people?

Because over half the population are women, and some people handle livestock. And most people wear clothes.